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Replying To Monaghan37: "McBennett head and shoulders above him as is Leonard from Eire Og. Connolly from Kilanny. Hanratty from Blayney. Beggan from Clones." McBennett, Leonard from Eire Og. Connolly from Kilanny - all yes have potential to play county. Very dangerous at club level. Clearly some the best players on the pitch when they play for their clubs.
Hanratty from Blayney and Beggan from Clones, not in the same league. Both can be negated at club level to a large extent.
As for Deadballmerchant... Players need a year or maybe two years to physically get up to speed. That should be obvious when you see the conditioning of intercounty players. I don't just mean the Monaghan lads that come back to their clubs but if you look at the size of some of the Donegal lads for example. They are monsters.
McBennett and Leonard have been on the panel a few years but don't seem to have come through. Only Vinny Corey and Bannigan can answer to that.
MrPBoylan (Monaghan) - Posts: 258 - 03/07/2025 15:50:22
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Would McBennett start in midfield for Scotstown? No chance, so he's not going to start for Monaghan.
McBennett I'm sure is a good lad but he's not any better than what we had lined out against Donegal so he isn't fixing our problem.
Theres a trend with names being thrown around on this, they play intermediate or juniors, of course they look like rockstars every weekend playing against lads just there to get outta the house for a few hours a week.
MonaghanMan44life (Monaghan) - Posts: 63 - 03/07/2025 16:19:20
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Replying To MonaghanMan44life: "Would McBennett start in midfield for Scotstown? No chance, so he's not going to start for Monaghan.
McBennett I'm sure is a good lad but he's not any better than what we had lined out against Donegal so he isn't fixing our problem.
Theres a trend with names being thrown around on this, they play intermediate or juniors, of course they look like rockstars every weekend playing against lads just there to get outta the house for a few hours a week." McBennett would 100% start for scotstown would you wise up!!
Monaghan37 (Monaghan) - Posts: 65 - 03/07/2025 17:19:09
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Replying To Monaghan37: "McBennett would 100% start for scotstown would you wise up!!" You're living in dreamland.
If he was any good he'd of got games in the league. I doubt there is a conspiracy to keep him out of the team for any other reason than quality.
MonaghanMan44life (Monaghan) - Posts: 63 - 03/07/2025 17:55:34
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Replying To MonaghanMan44life: "Would McBennett start in midfield for Scotstown? No chance, so he's not going to start for Monaghan.
McBennett I'm sure is a good lad but he's not any better than what we had lined out against Donegal so he isn't fixing our problem.
Theres a trend with names being thrown around on this, they play intermediate or juniors, of course they look like rockstars every weekend playing against lads just there to get outta the house for a few hours a week." Mc Bennett is a different type of footballer to the two lads who are big stong workhorses, he is more of a langan type player.
Monaghangeael (Monaghan) - Posts: 9 - 03/07/2025 18:26:02
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Replying To updafaughs: "Just an opinion on watching Blayney play both Harps and Donaghmoyne. Blayney a really young inexperienced team so it may be a little early for them but can definitely see them being a force at senior level in 5 years" That's exactly how I see the harps. Going very well with a player or two to come back in as well, intermediate seems to be wide open and the most competitive of all 3 divisions.
Monaghangeael (Monaghan) - Posts: 9 - 03/07/2025 18:35:37
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Something nobody is mentioning is that we dont have a dirty ball winner ie jinxsy malone k o connell as
were to nice on dirty ball every team needs 1 or 2 and this was the platform for our 2013 ulster title but going back to the midfield options tradionally monaghan don't stick with tall rangey players and don't get the same chances as 5 ft nothing players if you look at armagh they stick with there tall players and condition them into players that on the croke Park semis and finals can stick the pace like 2024 I think monaghan could have developed and given the likes of mcbennett more game time to develop and condition him could take 3 to 5 yearsto reap the benefits , rory kavanagh from donegal was a whippet when mcguinnes came in the door in 2011 and was a real handful by 2013 so it does pay off in the long run tall players in monaghan are rare and we should value them all and not knock them whether there playing for the county or not michael mccarville had a great year and hopefully he can step it up and good luck to him I think the net could be wider to capture 6 ft plus players look at meath derry galway kerry as midfield is massive now but also but you can't make what we don't have
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Replying To Monaghan37: "The conditions were only horrible for the harps that day were they? And not blayney? Terrible excuse. Failed to mention they were down by 4 before a late consolation goal." Bit touchy there fella!! Games that are outliers like that you can't read into them.
Monaghangeael (Monaghan) - Posts: 9 - 03/07/2025 20:38:39
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Replying To Farneyblueandwhite: "Something nobody is mentioning is that we dont have a dirty ball winner ie jinxsy malone k o connell as
were to nice on dirty ball every team needs 1 or 2 and this was the platform for our 2013 ulster title but going back to the midfield options tradionally monaghan don't stick with tall rangey players and don't get the same chances as 5 ft nothing players if you look at armagh they stick with there tall players and condition them into players that on the croke Park semis and finals can stick the pace like 2024 I think monaghan could have developed and given the likes of mcbennett more game time to develop and condition him could take 3 to 5 yearsto reap the benefits , rory kavanagh from donegal was a whippet when mcguinnes came in the door in 2011 and was a real handful by 2013 so it does pay off in the long run tall players in monaghan are rare and we should value them all and not knock them whether there playing for the county or not michael mccarville had a great year and hopefully he can step it up and good luck to him I think the net could be wider to capture 6 ft plus players look at meath derry galway kerry as midfield is massive now but also but you can't make what we don't have" Donaghey from D'Moyne springs to mind. Was some addition to the 2013 win. Pure animal and work rate. He'd stick his head where some lads would be afraid to put a foot
farneygael3 (Monaghan) - Posts: 280 - 03/07/2025 22:02:56
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Replying To Monaghangeael: "Mc Bennett is a different type of footballer to the two lads who are big stong workhorses, he is more of a langan type player." Dont embarrass yurself by comparing mc bennet to Langan. Mc Bennett was grand last year when we were riddled with injuries, he was hit and miss, he offered a bit of dynamism about the midfield area but i doubt hes a good worker/Fielder/Tackler like mc carville. I
monaghanmad (Monaghan) - Posts: 418 - 04/07/2025 08:42:25
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Replying To MonaghanMan44life: "Would McBennett start in midfield for Scotstown? No chance, so he's not going to start for Monaghan.
McBennett I'm sure is a good lad but he's not any better than what we had lined out against Donegal so he isn't fixing our problem.
Theres a trend with names being thrown around on this, they play intermediate or juniors, of course they look like rockstars every weekend playing against lads just there to get outta the house for a few hours a week." You are in cuckoo land if you think any team above the bottom 3 in Junior are ' lads just there to get outta the house for a few hours a week'.
If you have ever been involved in a club at these levels there is a serious amount of work and dedication going in to preparing for both players and management. Video analysis, tactical set up in training, gym programs, guest coaches, challenge matches all times of the year, meetings to review/preview games and analysis on opposition strengths and weaknesses like who to leave have the ball, who are the main scoring threats, who controls the tempo of the game, their foot preference and tendencies.
MrPBoylan (Monaghan) - Posts: 258 - 04/07/2025 09:18:59
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Replying To MonaghanMan44life: "Would McBennett start in midfield for Scotstown? No chance, so he's not going to start for Monaghan.
McBennett I'm sure is a good lad but he's not any better than what we had lined out against Donegal so he isn't fixing our problem.
Theres a trend with names being thrown around on this, they play intermediate or juniors, of course they look like rockstars every weekend playing against lads just there to get outta the house for a few hours a week." so based on that we shouldn't pick any junior or intermediate footballers ever? Ryan McAnespie plays for a junior club so shouldn't be pick then! Good old fashioned trolling there. McCarville and McPhillips both played for Scotstown junior league team before making the jump to their seniors and then county.
sporto (Monaghan) - Posts: 184 - 04/07/2025 09:29:26
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Replying To sporto: "so based on that we shouldn't pick any junior or intermediate footballers ever? Ryan McAnespie plays for a junior club so shouldn't be pick then! Good old fashioned trolling there. McCarville and McPhillips both played for Scotstown junior league team before making the jump to their seniors and then county." Ryan McAnespie already plays for Monaghan mate…
we are talking about all these county standard players playing club football in juniors and intermediate that are better than what we currently have.
My point being, I'd be pretty confident the best players who want to play for Monaghan are in the squad and there is no alternative motive behind not selecting players.
MonaghanMan44life (Monaghan) - Posts: 63 - 04/07/2025 11:42:40
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Replying To MrPBoylan: "You are in cuckoo land if you think any team above the bottom 3 in Junior are ' lads just there to get outta the house for a few hours a week'.
If you have ever been involved in a club at these levels there is a serious amount of work and dedication going in to preparing for both players and management. Video analysis, tactical set up in training, gym programs, guest coaches, challenge matches all times of the year, meetings to review/preview games and analysis on opposition strengths and weaknesses like who to leave have the ball, who are the main scoring threats, who controls the tempo of the game, their foot preference and tendencies." Ya ever watch any of these games?
75% of the teams are in no fit state physically to play club football so start there before your "guest coaches"…
MonaghanMan44life (Monaghan) - Posts: 63 - 04/07/2025 11:52:10
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Replying To farneygael3: "Donaghey from D'Moyne springs to mind. Was some addition to the 2013 win. Pure animal and work rate. He'd stick his head where some lads would be afraid to put a foot" Yes forgot to mention donkey had a good year played against meath in clones m o rourkes 1st match and cleaned up the breaking ball subbed in next match v cavan left the panel and was called in after league sprung into ulster final and played a blinder supposing mcguinness had analysis done on every monaghan player but not on guess who ?
Farneyblueandwhite (Monaghan) - Posts: 105 - 04/07/2025 12:37:50
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Replying To MrPBoylan: "You are in cuckoo land if you think any team above the bottom 3 in Junior are ' lads just there to get outta the house for a few hours a week'.
If you have ever been involved in a club at these levels there is a serious amount of work and dedication going in to preparing for both players and management. Video analysis, tactical set up in training, gym programs, guest coaches, challenge matches all times of the year, meetings to review/preview games and analysis on opposition strengths and weaknesses like who to leave have the ball, who are the main scoring threats, who controls the tempo of the game, their foot preference and tendencies." The bait was taken here.
That being said, the standard of junior outside 2 or 3 is absolutely atrocious. I always like to keep an eye on Scotstown and waiting for there jump to intermediate.
That was a terrible result for them last week however and will miss out on a semifinal finish after it?
farneygael3 (Monaghan) - Posts: 280 - 04/07/2025 13:00:03
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Replying To MonaghanMan44life: "Ya ever watch any of these games?
75% of the teams are in no fit state physically to play club football so start there before your "guest coaches"…" Obviously you neither a pkayer or a supporter. Or possibly just need Specsavers. An embarrassment you are.
ORIELMAN85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 685 - 04/07/2025 13:50:07
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