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Replying To johncreilly: "Tailteann is a good competition and we will no doubt go after it if we end up there, but if your league position got you into an All Ireland, or though perhaps unlikely, you turned over Mayo, would you not be more excited by testing yourself against the best in the country? Interested to know what people think?
Also, I agree with some of the above sentiments, that there is a fear we could get a dose of reality in 2025 and out upward trend could plummet. Here's hoping that won't happen." Really hope we push on this year. Listened to Tony Mcentee on Ocean Fm this week. Still can't work him out. Getting excuses in about teams with new backroom teams are at a disadvantage like Sligo.who have new backroom team.. well why get in a new backroom team ?? I give him a lot of credit with sticking with Sligo project and do believe he is a good manager but he does say some bizzare things. In Tony I will trust for another season... Sligeach abu
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Good fight from Coolera 2nd half but overall they will be disappointed with their shooting today just a like over 40% while in the Connacht final it was over 70%.
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Replying To Gaa_lover: "Good fight from Coolera 2nd half but overall they will be disappointed with their shooting today just a like over 40% while in the Connacht final it was over 70%." The Sligo team were brutal in the first half and the amount of back passes to the keeper turned into an embarrassment… Cuala got dragged down to their opponents level and therefore allowed them back in somewhat but were in absolute no danger of loosing
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Replying To ForeverBlue2: "The Sligo team were brutal in the first half and the amount of back passes to the keeper turned into an embarrassment… Cuala got dragged down to their opponents level and therefore allowed them back in somewhat but were in absolute no danger of loosing" 2 points from nine shots wasn't good from the Sligo champions in the 1st half. Cuala sat back and hit them on the counter for 6 points in the 1st half. And with the game finely balanced at 0-10 to 0-8 they returned to those same tactics for their final 4 points of the match.
Drax_the_destroyer (UK) - Posts: 281 - 11/01/2025 21:36:08
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Replying To SligoScot: "Really hope we push on this year. Listened to Tony Mcentee on Ocean Fm this week. Still can't work him out. Getting excuses in about teams with new backroom teams are at a disadvantage like Sligo.who have new backroom team.. well why get in a new backroom team ?? I give him a lot of credit with sticking with Sligo project and do believe he is a good manager but he does say some bizzare things. In Tony I will trust for another season... Sligeach abu" Managers rarely make sense when interviewed in the off season. I remember a few years ago the Kerry lad that was manager of Roscommon,John Evans said that Roscommon were close to winning an All Ireland and would do so very soon. Paidi O Se, Davey Fitz are 2 All Ireland winning managers that often came out with rubbish. Things will settle when the ball gets thrown in.
eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1996 - 11/01/2025 21:53:26
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Replying To ForeverBlue2: "The Sligo team were brutal in the first half and the amount of back passes to the keeper turned into an embarrassment… Cuala got dragged down to their opponents level and therefore allowed them back in somewhat but were in absolute no danger of loosing" Cuala were ultra negative in the first half and Coolera hadn't much choice but to hold the ball as they could not break them down. yes Coolera were not a good watch in the first have but when the hot favorites from Dublin just sit back it them that deserve the criticism. Both teams will have to be very different when new rules come in.
MrUnderhill (Sligo) - Posts: 72 - 12/01/2025 13:54:30
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Replying To MrUnderhill: "Cuala were ultra negative in the first half and Coolera hadn't much choice but to hold the ball as they could not break them down. yes Coolera were not a good watch in the first have but when the hot favorites from Dublin just sit back it them that deserve the criticism. Both teams will have to be very different when new rules come in." I'd agree largely with that but what I would say is that when you play that game, it comes down to taking your chances. Coolera left too many behind them in that first half. In any case, they have done the county proud and deserve a lot of praise. Nobody would have expected them to go toe to toe with the Dublin Senior champions in an All Ireland Semi. On another day, it could have been different.
johncreilly (Sligo) - Posts: 133 - 13/01/2025 08:59:06
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Replying To johncreilly: "I'd agree largely with that but what I would say is that when you play that game, it comes down to taking your chances. Coolera left too many behind them in that first half. In any case, they have done the county proud and deserve a lot of praise. Nobody would have expected them to go toe to toe with the Dublin Senior champions in an All Ireland Semi. On another day, it could have been different." A good Dublin senior champion with one outstanding talent in Con O'Callaghan plus the 36 year old veteran in Michael Fitzsimons but wouldn't be near the great teams that has come out of Dublin in the past.
The two best in Galway Corofin.Moycullen and two best in Roscommon St Brigids,Pearses would have beaten that Cuala team if given the chance to play them I believe and Coolera Strandhill would have won also had they brought their Connacht final shot efficiency of 73% into that All Ireland semi final, instead it was at 47% on Saturday and left with what ifs when you consider the match was a one score game 0-12 to 0-9 with 2 minutes normal time to play.
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Replying To Gaa_lover: "A good Dublin senior champion with one outstanding talent in Con O'Callaghan plus the 36 year old veteran in Michael Fitzsimons but wouldn't be near the great teams that has come out of Dublin in the past.
The two best in Galway Corofin.Moycullen and two best in Roscommon St Brigids,Pearses would have beaten that Cuala team if given the chance to play them I believe and Coolera Strandhill would have won also had they brought their Connacht final shot efficiency of 73% into that All Ireland semi final, instead it was at 47% on Saturday and left with what ifs when you consider the match was a one score game 0-12 to 0-9 with 2 minutes normal time to play." The teams you mentioned didn't get the chance because they weren't good enough to win their provincial title. A 36 year old with a bagful of All Ireland medals plus other players that have All Ireland medals. If you are going to tell a story then at least tell the whole story.
eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1996 - 13/01/2025 22:10:15
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Coolera have every right to be proud of their performance and year in totality but I couldn't help but be disappointed after the game.
I was taken aback at how negative Cuala set up but to me that was a sign of the respect they had for Coolera, and I understand why Coolera felt the need to go back with the ball but I still feel sometimes they could have taken on the man and broke the gainline to get between the lines and space would have opened. It was just too cautious at times for me.
My biggest issue with Coolera was when 10-8 down and 12-9 down with an extra man the let the corner backs for Cuala get the kickouts and come out without a major press, every Coolera man needed to be pressed tight up on each player then. Then force the long kickout for the extra man on the breaks. It was almost like ah we pushed them close and now that is it. 10-8 with a few mins left and momentum was a great position. They were wobbling and I just was disappointed that momentum was lost. The 5 pts in a row was exhilarating and most teams would have buckled way before that at 10-3 down so massive credit for that.
The emergence of Keelan Harte as an outfield goalie needs to be explored with county given the new rules. Hopefully he will commit. Plenty of Coolera lads to be drafted into county set up with McDaniel, Doherty and Banks I feel look ready. A few weeks now to integrate into the senior set up and new rules.
Fair play to them uplifting the profile of Sligo Club Football, if someone had said on here in August the Sligo champions will win Connacht and be within 2 pts of the Dublin and Leinster champions with 10 mins to go, you would have some on here laughing at you. Hopefully now it brings a new level to next years clubs with a new confidence and most importantly hopefully the county seniors get a bounce off it.
In other news I think James Glancy is a good appointment for St Molaise with Quinn still on board, I'd be optimistic enough and wish him well. He will have Joe Keaney services for the whole year after not being called into the county set up after getting very limited gametime in 3 years since his Connacht win.
Sligonian (Sligo) - Posts: 1741 - 13/01/2025 23:23:05
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Replying To Sligonian: "Coolera have every right to be proud of their performance and year in totality but I couldn't help but be disappointed after the game.
I was taken aback at how negative Cuala set up but to me that was a sign of the respect they had for Coolera, and I understand why Coolera felt the need to go back with the ball but I still feel sometimes they could have taken on the man and broke the gainline to get between the lines and space would have opened. It was just too cautious at times for me.
My biggest issue with Coolera was when 10-8 down and 12-9 down with an extra man the let the corner backs for Cuala get the kickouts and come out without a major press, every Coolera man needed to be pressed tight up on each player then. Then force the long kickout for the extra man on the breaks. It was almost like ah we pushed them close and now that is it. 10-8 with a few mins left and momentum was a great position. They were wobbling and I just was disappointed that momentum was lost. The 5 pts in a row was exhilarating and most teams would have buckled way before that at 10-3 down so massive credit for that.
The emergence of Keelan Harte as an outfield goalie needs to be explored with county given the new rules. Hopefully he will commit. Plenty of Coolera lads to be drafted into county set up with McDaniel, Doherty and Banks I feel look ready. A few weeks now to integrate into the senior set up and new rules.
Fair play to them uplifting the profile of Sligo Club Football, if someone had said on here in August the Sligo champions will win Connacht and be within 2 pts of the Dublin and Leinster champions with 10 mins to go, you would have some on here laughing at you. Hopefully now it brings a new level to next years clubs with a new confidence and most importantly hopefully the county seniors get a bounce off it.
In other news I think James Glancy is a good appointment for St Molaise with Quinn still on board, I'd be optimistic enough and wish him well. He will have Joe Keaney services for the whole year after not being called into the county set up after getting very limited gametime in 3 years since his Connacht win." Coolera needed every shot to go over the bar and it didn't happen for them on the day. What was admirable that at 10-3 down they didn't throw in the towel they dug in and fought back and put Cuala on the back foot. They can be immensely proud of themselves and the whole county is proud of the journey they went on, Connacht titles are now becoming the norm for sligo teams not a once in a generation event.
On coolera players coming into the county panel I don't see anyone bar murphy, none of the rest will have the training done and with less than 2 weeks to go til the league starts mcentee will have settled on his panel by now I'd imagine. Kevin banks is a fine player but don't think he has any interest in county football, he threw his lot in with the hurlers for a few seasons and also as he is a farmer his home life probably isn't conducive to county level training. I do agree with the new rules we need to look at alternatives to Aidan devaney.
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Replying To Sligonian: "Coolera have every right to be proud of their performance and year in totality but I couldn't help but be disappointed after the game.
I was taken aback at how negative Cuala set up but to me that was a sign of the respect they had for Coolera, and I understand why Coolera felt the need to go back with the ball but I still feel sometimes they could have taken on the man and broke the gainline to get between the lines and space would have opened. It was just too cautious at times for me.
My biggest issue with Coolera was when 10-8 down and 12-9 down with an extra man the let the corner backs for Cuala get the kickouts and come out without a major press, every Coolera man needed to be pressed tight up on each player then. Then force the long kickout for the extra man on the breaks. It was almost like ah we pushed them close and now that is it. 10-8 with a few mins left and momentum was a great position. They were wobbling and I just was disappointed that momentum was lost. The 5 pts in a row was exhilarating and most teams would have buckled way before that at 10-3 down so massive credit for that.
The emergence of Keelan Harte as an outfield goalie needs to be explored with county given the new rules. Hopefully he will commit. Plenty of Coolera lads to be drafted into county set up with McDaniel, Doherty and Banks I feel look ready. A few weeks now to integrate into the senior set up and new rules.
Fair play to them uplifting the profile of Sligo Club Football, if someone had said on here in August the Sligo champions will win Connacht and be within 2 pts of the Dublin and Leinster champions with 10 mins to go, you would have some on here laughing at you. Hopefully now it brings a new level to next years clubs with a new confidence and most importantly hopefully the county seniors get a bounce off it.
In other news I think James Glancy is a good appointment for St Molaise with Quinn still on board, I'd be optimistic enough and wish him well. He will have Joe Keaney services for the whole year after not being called into the county set up after getting very limited gametime in 3 years since his Connacht win." On Joe Keaney, given your ties it's understandable you'd like to see him involved but he clearly hasn't shown enough to the management in his training or application if he can't even make the panel never mind get gametime.
westvoice (Sligo) - Posts: 60 - 14/01/2025 10:38:22
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Replying To Sligonian: "Coolera have every right to be proud of their performance and year in totality but I couldn't help but be disappointed after the game.
I was taken aback at how negative Cuala set up but to me that was a sign of the respect they had for Coolera, and I understand why Coolera felt the need to go back with the ball but I still feel sometimes they could have taken on the man and broke the gainline to get between the lines and space would have opened. It was just too cautious at times for me.
My biggest issue with Coolera was when 10-8 down and 12-9 down with an extra man the let the corner backs for Cuala get the kickouts and come out without a major press, every Coolera man needed to be pressed tight up on each player then. Then force the long kickout for the extra man on the breaks. It was almost like ah we pushed them close and now that is it. 10-8 with a few mins left and momentum was a great position. They were wobbling and I just was disappointed that momentum was lost. The 5 pts in a row was exhilarating and most teams would have buckled way before that at 10-3 down so massive credit for that.
The emergence of Keelan Harte as an outfield goalie needs to be explored with county given the new rules. Hopefully he will commit. Plenty of Coolera lads to be drafted into county set up with McDaniel, Doherty and Banks I feel look ready. A few weeks now to integrate into the senior set up and new rules.
Fair play to them uplifting the profile of Sligo Club Football, if someone had said on here in August the Sligo champions will win Connacht and be within 2 pts of the Dublin and Leinster champions with 10 mins to go, you would have some on here laughing at you. Hopefully now it brings a new level to next years clubs with a new confidence and most importantly hopefully the county seniors get a bounce off it.
In other news I think James Glancy is a good appointment for St Molaise with Quinn still on board, I'd be optimistic enough and wish him well. He will have Joe Keaney services for the whole year after not being called into the county set up after getting very limited gametime in 3 years since his Connacht win." Fair play to Coolera on a very good performance. I think Cuala decided to go ultra defensive because of the Coolera tactic of holding onto the ball for long periods and trying to use the keeper as a spare man. Coolera were very tentative and cautious with this tactic though rather than running at pace and breaking the line their seemed content to retain the ball.
Cuala tactic of breaking at pace when they turned over the ball was where they got the majority of their score so their tactics although negative worked.
In fairness i think Tourlestrane did raise the profile in Sligo club football during their reign as champions without making a meaningful breakthrough as Connacht champions.
With regard to Keaney, i have to admit i too was disappointed in him not making the panel last year givn his exploits with the u20s. However i watched him on a number of occasions for the club in 2024 and he didn't stand out like a potential county player should. However there is still time for him to evolve his game and the new kick-out rules should suit him also.
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Replying To Anto: "Fair play to Coolera on a very good performance. I think Cuala decided to go ultra defensive because of the Coolera tactic of holding onto the ball for long periods and trying to use the keeper as a spare man. Coolera were very tentative and cautious with this tactic though rather than running at pace and breaking the line their seemed content to retain the ball.
Cuala tactic of breaking at pace when they turned over the ball was where they got the majority of their score so their tactics although negative worked.
In fairness i think Tourlestrane did raise the profile in Sligo club football during their reign as champions without making a meaningful breakthrough as Connacht champions.
With regard to Keaney, i have to admit i too was disappointed in him not making the panel last year givn his exploits with the u20s. However i watched him on a number of occasions for the club in 2024 and he didn't stand out like a potential county player should. However there is still time for him to evolve his game and the new kick-out rules should suit him also." Great tactics by Coolera .. fair play to them.. they had 75% possession of the ball ( keeper probably half of it ) in n the 1st half and went in 6-2 down at the break…!.. They got what they deserved out of the game which was absolutely nothing…!!
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3259 - 14/01/2025 13:13:06
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Replying To westvoice: "On Joe Keaney, given your ties it's understandable you'd like to see him involved but he clearly hasn't shown enough to the management in his training or application if he can't even make the panel never mind get gametime." Word has it the Cummins lads are dropped from Calry panel and that Paddy O'Connor has failed to make the St. Farnans panel for the second year running. Incredible stuff from management.
Ice_cream_dromore (Sligo) - Posts: 31 - 14/01/2025 13:14:22
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Replying To Sligonian: "Coolera have every right to be proud of their performance and year in totality but I couldn't help but be disappointed after the game.
I was taken aback at how negative Cuala set up but to me that was a sign of the respect they had for Coolera, and I understand why Coolera felt the need to go back with the ball but I still feel sometimes they could have taken on the man and broke the gainline to get between the lines and space would have opened. It was just too cautious at times for me.
My biggest issue with Coolera was when 10-8 down and 12-9 down with an extra man the let the corner backs for Cuala get the kickouts and come out without a major press, every Coolera man needed to be pressed tight up on each player then. Then force the long kickout for the extra man on the breaks. It was almost like ah we pushed them close and now that is it. 10-8 with a few mins left and momentum was a great position. They were wobbling and I just was disappointed that momentum was lost. The 5 pts in a row was exhilarating and most teams would have buckled way before that at 10-3 down so massive credit for that.
The emergence of Keelan Harte as an outfield goalie needs to be explored with county given the new rules. Hopefully he will commit. Plenty of Coolera lads to be drafted into county set up with McDaniel, Doherty and Banks I feel look ready. A few weeks now to integrate into the senior set up and new rules.
Fair play to them uplifting the profile of Sligo Club Football, if someone had said on here in August the Sligo champions will win Connacht and be within 2 pts of the Dublin and Leinster champions with 10 mins to go, you would have some on here laughing at you. Hopefully now it brings a new level to next years clubs with a new confidence and most importantly hopefully the county seniors get a bounce off it.
In other news I think James Glancy is a good appointment for St Molaise with Quinn still on board, I'd be optimistic enough and wish him well. He will have Joe Keaney services for the whole year after not being called into the county set up after getting very limited gametime in 3 years since his Connacht win." We'll soon need a separate thread for Molaise Gaels. Joe Keaney would be there if he really really wanted to be. I'm convinced of that. It's not the Dublin panel. Either way, unless you know exactly why he's not and willing to quote your sources, it's only idle speculation. He looked a good player in 2023. Didn't see much of him in 2024 but this isn't Con O'Callaghan we are talking about either. Let the lad develop and do his own thing and quit your waffling.
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Replying To ForeverBlue2: "Great tactics by Coolera .. fair play to them.. they had 75% possession of the ball ( keeper probably half of it ) in n the 1st half and went in 6-2 down at the break…!.. They got what they deserved out of the game which was absolutely nothing…!!" How'd the Cavan champions do this year? Do any of us go on other threads and ridicule teams we know nothing about? Maybe we do, I certainly don't.
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Replying To eoinog: "The teams you mentioned didn't get the chance because they weren't good enough to win their provincial title. A 36 year old with a bagful of All Ireland medals plus other players that have All Ireland medals. If you are going to tell a story then at least tell the whole story." In such competitive province all of those teams I've mentioned could have been there and I expect all to be there or thereabouts in the next few years.
That 36 year old is in the twilight of his career will be no surprise if confirms his inter county retirement after next Sunday's club final. Other than him and Con what other players have won senior All-Irelands on the field of play for Dublin?
Main story to tell was the Sligo champions shot efficiency on the day. They are better than that as proved/seen n the Connacht Final. Shot efficiency of just 47% would struggle win most games in Sligo nevermind All-Ireland semi final.
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Replying To Gaa_lover: "In such competitive province all of those teams I've mentioned could have been there and I expect all to be there or thereabouts in the next few years.
That 36 year old is in the twilight of his career will be no surprise if confirms his inter county retirement after next Sunday's club final. Other than him and Con what other players have won senior All-Irelands on the field of play for Dublin?
Main story to tell was the Sligo champions shot efficiency on the day. They are better than that as proved/seen n the Connacht Final. Shot efficiency of just 47% would struggle win most games in Sligo nevermind All-Ireland semi final." Are you questioning the quality of a team who beat Kilmacud Crokes in a county final??
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Replying To Gaa_lover: "In such competitive province all of those teams I've mentioned could have been there and I expect all to be there or thereabouts in the next few years.
That 36 year old is in the twilight of his career will be no surprise if confirms his inter county retirement after next Sunday's club final. Other than him and Con what other players have won senior All-Irelands on the field of play for Dublin?
Main story to tell was the Sligo champions shot efficiency on the day. They are better than that as proved/seen n the Connacht Final. Shot efficiency of just 47% would struggle win most games in Sligo nevermind All-Ireland semi final." They beat Ballymun who would've had Dean Rock, James McCarthy, Paddy Small and John Small on the pitch…4 all Ireland winners, what exactly is the point your trying to make about having two all Ireland is winners on the pitch?? The depth of quality at the upper end in Dublin is massive…the playing pool is huge…
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