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Replying To Onthe50!!: "Was at a few games the weekend and have to say the amount of people attending games is so poor . Sad to see such poor crowds in markievich park . In regards to football experience told with coolera . Murphy is a class act . Molaise didn't have it all there own way . Should make for a good county final . Word of mention to young Conlon from shamrock gales a tidy corner back- I think that's his name . . Nice to see a team from the west remain senior in Easkey . They had a tough year for the club on the field credit must go to players & manager John feeney young lad taking that job on for the last two years not easy . They were very lucky curry could have easily snatched the win at the death with a goal chance . Alan Reilly and mikey Gordon were very good . One would expect curry to beat Calry in relegation final . The county board really need to look into ways to draw a crowd absolutely no atmosphere at times in markievich yesterday ." It's very difficult to get an atmosphere in Markievicz Park unless there's a minimum of 5 thousand people. Last year's county final had probably the biggest crowd in years and I would expect another big crowd this year as it's a first final for Harps and Owenmore Gaels in the Intermediate and the Senior final should attract interest in the North Division. There was probably 6 or 7 hundred people in Tourlestrane on Sat night and they did a fine job on hosting it. There was a good atmosphere and the controversy added to it. A Co semi final in Markievicz at 2pm and another at 4 means there's a huge gap between the games and you would need to be a die hard supporter to take in both games with 45 minutes between the games. The gap is unavoidable as teams need to warm up as there's no alternative. eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1944 - 14/10/2024 19:39:45 2574934 Link
Replying To westvoice: "I think it's really poor to be getting personal regarding managers. Castleconnor have struggled for different reasons and there isn't many clubs could cope with losing a player like Carrabine. Their average age is something like 19/20 so there is potential there. Just need time." No doubt loosing a player like carrabine is un replaceable see his dad collected his award for his tailteann success so he must not be round. They're a very young team and if can keep them together in years to come will have a good side. With John's having to call back Charlie Harrison to fill numbers they should have enough to stay up. Westside14 (Sligo) - Posts: 18 - 15/10/2024 09:25:36 2574979 Link
In keeping with the absolute farcical performance and disregard for the players all year by the CCC, I see there's no set fixtures for the county finals less than two weeks before the games. While the county board have to be commended on certain aspects of their tenure, the regression on fixture planning and some of the outright daftness seen all year will surely have them answering a few hard questions come the convention ABigTree (Sligo) - Posts: 9 - 15/10/2024 20:29:10 2575149 Link
Hard to know where to start. It was an impressive 2nd half from Coolera, they looked back to their best. Upped the intensity. I still thought Mary's missed some scorable frees to make it closer and losing by 3 pts is not a lot. The first 10 mins after the half sealed their fate. We will have to curtail Murphy. He is the difference maker. Do you go with stopping the supply of double up man mark. Probably a bit of both. I thought we were fortunate enough. Credit to Gerard Brady 99% of players take the point there but he finished it brilliantly. We needed the cushion. I was surprised how many breaks Shamrock Gaels won. We were living off scraps at times but they'll be disappointed at the turnovers. Jamie McLoughlin had a stormer and was our main man along with Alan. They never waivered or shirked responsibility. Delighted to see Keelan Watters have a great game. I thought Joe did very well in some tight situations and battled hard. Conlon was very good for them but Coxey battled back and that was a huge turnover towards the end. Carroll always impresses me. Davitt was good for us but we do need more threat up front. Delighted to be in another final and credit to the players and management especially after losing to Tourlestrane it wasn't looking great. Sligonian (Sligo) - Posts: 1714 - 15/10/2024 21:21:22 2575164 Link
Replying To ABigTree: "In keeping with the absolute farcical performance and disregard for the players all year by the CCC, I see there's no set fixtures for the county finals less than two weeks before the games. While the county board have to be commended on certain aspects of their tenure, the regression on fixture planning and some of the outright daftness seen all year will surely have them answering a few hard questions come the convention" Sure no point in them going against their form all year right at the end! Unfortunately when there's no county board meetings as mentioned here by other posters I doubt you'll find any backlash at convention either when clubs haven't reared up already. We'll probably still see the same folks picked for another year because it would appear that in Sligo even if ya have good intentions it's not as good as doing what someone else tells ya to do for whatever their motives are. Sligoman1234 (Sligo) - Posts: 424 - 15/10/2024 22:34:52 2575177 Link
Replying To ABigTree: "In keeping with the absolute farcical performance and disregard for the players all year by the CCC, I see there's no set fixtures for the county finals less than two weeks before the games. While the county board have to be commended on certain aspects of their tenure, the regression on fixture planning and some of the outright daftness seen all year will surely have them answering a few hard questions come the convention" The CCC are waiting to see what the weather bring in the coming days before they confirm the fixture, they are worried that the pitch in Markiveciz won't be able to take a double header of the Intermediate and Senior final. It's not fair on any of the teams competing not knowing the exact details. I see the Junior Final is penciled in for the Saturday at 7pm with no venue. You would imagine Tourlestrane is the only viable option with a proper stand there but you never know. InAroundTheSqaure (UK) - Posts: 12 - 16/10/2024 12:34:08 2575269 Link
Replying To InAroundTheSqaure: "The CCC are waiting to see what the weather bring in the coming days before they confirm the fixture, they are worried that the pitch in Markiveciz won't be able to take a double header of the Intermediate and Senior final. It's not fair on any of the teams competing not knowing the exact details. I see the Junior Final is penciled in for the Saturday at 7pm with no venue. You would imagine Tourlestrane is the only viable option with a proper stand there but you never know." Markievicz has been closed for the whole championship except for the 4 games over the past 2 weekends. If it can't take a double header then what was all the improvement work about??? Sligoman1234 (Sligo) - Posts: 424 - 16/10/2024 15:12:59 2575314 Link
Replying To Sligoman1234: "Markievicz has been closed for the whole championship except for the 4 games over the past 2 weekends. If it can't take a double header then what was all the improvement work about???" I see it's down as a double header with the senior. There will be a gap of one hour between the end of the first game and start of the second. Definitely not ideal for spectators. I see the junior is fixed for the Sat evening and interesting the referee's for both games would not be in my top 20 referee's in the county. I know every referee deserves a final but on the other side of the coin you have players training since last February for their biggest game of the year so they do deserve the best referee's. We saw what happened in Tourlestrane last week eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1944 - 18/10/2024 10:33:53 2575597 Link
Replying To eoinog: "I see it's down as a double header with the senior. There will be a gap of one hour between the end of the first game and start of the second. Definitely not ideal for spectators. I see the junior is fixed for the Sat evening and interesting the referee's for both games would not be in my top 20 referee's in the county. I know every referee deserves a final but on the other side of the coin you have players training since last February for their biggest game of the year so they do deserve the best referee's. We saw what happened in Tourlestrane last week" I really think if you are going to question the competence of three referees on a public forum along with other jibes you throw at individuals and clubs on here you should have the balls to put your name to it. If you are only analysing games etc and not making direct comments towards individuals fair enough the username is grand but when you personalise issues and comment on clubs like my own where you have no idea of the work that's going on, man up and tell us who you are. There is definitely a number of refs in the county who would be delighted to step down but there is nobody stepping up. Not a hope I could do it personally. Bad enough getting abuse on the pitch but been slagged off on a public forum by somebody who can't even put their name to the comment, why would anybody do it. The best team will win the three finals regardless of the referee. SeánStagg (Sligo) - Posts: 5 - 18/10/2024 11:34:04 2575618 Link
Replying To SeánStagg: "I really think if you are going to question the competence of three referees on a public forum along with other jibes you throw at individuals and clubs on here you should have the balls to put your name to it. If you are only analysing games etc and not making direct comments towards individuals fair enough the username is grand but when you personalise issues and comment on clubs like my own where you have no idea of the work that's going on, man up and tell us who you are. There is definitely a number of refs in the county who would be delighted to step down but there is nobody stepping up. Not a hope I could do it personally. Bad enough getting abuse on the pitch but been slagged off on a public forum by somebody who can't even put their name to the comment, why would anybody do it. The best team will win the three finals regardless of the referee." Well said Séan. Wishing referees for the upcoming finals the best of luck and hopefully we are not speaking about them after the games - especially given what happened in the junior final last year. A very tough job nonetheless. Some exciting semi finals over the past couple of weeks. Owenmore Gaels v Coolaney probably the pick of the intermediate but I did not get to attend the Harps v Geevagh replay and by all accounts that was exciting too. Both senior semi finals were as expected - a lot more cagey. Clinicalness from Brady seen Molaise through, a lack of ambition when playing with the breeze coupled with a brilliant individual display from Murphy seen Marys faulter at this stage once again and Coolera over the line. Both finals very hard to call as well as the Junior A. On a side note, the lack of promotion for the hurling final is really shocking. Nothing on social media from the county accounts until today. Leitrim, who only have two senior clubs and their final this weekend have had more up. Hopefully its not a sign of things to come for the finals next weekend but I wouldn't hold my breath based on the track record in the championship to date. benbulbingael (Sligo) - Posts: 9 - 18/10/2024 13:56:57 2575656 Link
I understand where Sean is coming from about criticism of referees from people using usernames but it's every users right to remain anonymous if they show wish, credit to him for opting not to do so. I hope all referees do a good job and wish them well. I hope that there's no talk of them at all after the games which is an indication that they did a good job. However I don't buy into this idea that everyone deserves a final. It doesn't happen that every inter county referee will referee an all Ireland and rightly so. For various reasons be it fitness or rules knowledge some referees will be better than others and the same applied at club level. There are also certain types of games that won't suit some refs over others for example proximity to home club or other connections, issues in the past etc. It's by no means an easy job and I wouldn't do it for all the tea in China but keeping a decent level of fitness keeps you closer to play and therefore in a better spot to make big calls and should be a basic requirement for our final referees. Sligoman1234 (Sligo) - Posts: 424 - 18/10/2024 15:13:23 2575681 Link
Replying To SeánStagg: "I really think if you are going to question the competence of three referees on a public forum along with other jibes you throw at individuals and clubs on here you should have the balls to put your name to it. If you are only analysing games etc and not making direct comments towards individuals fair enough the username is grand but when you personalise issues and comment on clubs like my own where you have no idea of the work that's going on, man up and tell us who you are. There is definitely a number of refs in the county who would be delighted to step down but there is nobody stepping up. Not a hope I could do it personally. Bad enough getting abuse on the pitch but been slagged off on a public forum by somebody who can't even put their name to the comment, why would anybody do it. The best team will win the three finals regardless of the referee." You are getting a bit besotted with me lately Sean. Interesting that you bring up your own club again as I haven't mentioned it in ages. I thought you would be putting all your efforts in trying to get out of junior. I'm not aware of any jibe that I have thrown at anyone. eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1944 - 18/10/2024 15:19:38 2575683 Link
Replying To eoinog: "You are getting a bit besotted with me lately Sean. Interesting that you bring up your own club again as I haven't mentioned it in ages. I thought you would be putting all your efforts in trying to get out of junior. I'm not aware of any jibe that I have thrown at anyone." My second comment on this forum, I would hardly call it besotted. Keep avoiding the question if you wish and maintain your keyboard warrior status. If you here to make genuine constructive comments you would have no issue in standing by them. SeánStagg (Sligo) - Posts: 5 - 18/10/2024 16:07:45 2575698 Link
Not sure if the predictions thing is still going or not Castleconnor v St John's….Castleconnor by 2 Curry v Calry….Curry by 5 Sligoman1234 (Sligo) - Posts: 424 - 18/10/2024 16:52:12 2575706 Link
Replying To eoinog: "You are getting a bit besotted with me lately Sean. Interesting that you bring up your own club again as I haven't mentioned it in ages. I thought you would be putting all your efforts in trying to get out of junior. I'm not aware of any jibe that I have thrown at anyone." You only mentioned Ballymote on Monday eoinog, as you were told at the time it's your obsession with constantly bringing Ballymote into a discussion that is the issue here, not to mention you deciding now to have a go at some of the referees in the county. Maybe you should step away from the keyboard and put on a refs jersey seeing as you're so intent on abusing them online on a regular basis, you must know the game much better than them all so you'd be doing the county a favour xwave8000 (Sligo) - Posts: 20 - 18/10/2024 17:30:14 2575714 Link
Six teams are currently training for their county finals. Each management team will pick the best 15 players available to them. Do those teams not deserve the best team of officials on match day. I believe they do. What do the top referee's in the county think of getting overlooked ?. It's as simple as that !! eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1944 - 18/10/2024 22:42:22 2575743 Link
Replying To Sligoman1234: "Not sure if the predictions thing is still going or not Castleconnor v St John's….Castleconnor by 2 Curry v Calry….Curry by 5" Calry by 2 against Curry Castleconnor by 4 against Johns eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 1944 - 18/10/2024 22:43:44 2575745 Link
Replying To eoinog: "Calry by 2 against Curry Castleconnor by 4 against Johns" Curry by 2 against calry although the bad weather promised could be a big factor as they struggle to get out as the keeper has a short kickout. Castleconnor by 3 against Johns not a lot between them both poor but expect Flynn's frees to be the difference. Going to throw in coolaney to win junior b Easkey to win the hurling this weekend and continue there dominance in Sligo Westside14 (Sligo) - Posts: 18 - 19/10/2024 10:22:58 2575783 Link
So calry are down to intermediate for 2025, from the outside looking in its hard to see them bouncing straight back up. Castleconnor saved themselves once again. They got all their goals in the first half so the game was as good as over by then. John's have a few good underage teams coming but they will need to get new blood in quickly to get out of Junior A westvoice (Sligo) - Posts: 55 - 21/10/2024 09:15:32 2576092 Link
Replying To eoinog: "Six teams are currently training for their county finals. Each management team will pick the best 15 players available to them. Do those teams not deserve the best team of officials on match day. I believe they do. What do the top referee's in the county think of getting overlooked ?. It's as simple as that !!" It's a fine line. You are correct in that their are a few refs in the county who play their own rules and are susceptible to do anything. It can be extremely frustrating at times, especially when the whistle is constantly being sounded. The standard of refereeing in the club game across the entire country is poor, however, and if a ref isn't getting any important games, they are likely to stop doing it. We need more refs, not less, and with the prospect of more rules coming in over the next couple of seasons, who'd want to do it? The question I would ask is, are the refs getting the help training they need, or is it a case of 'go and ref the game whatever way you think'? Are their performances being monitored or reviewed at any stage over the year, as an intercounty ref would? Is that a thing in the club game? I genuinely don't know and maybe it's a case of a few more euro being thrown at it to allow appropriate training in the rules and review of performances. This is not to tackle the credibility of referees, but to aid, and encourage. I'm not sure what's best but we have to help them all to continue and get some younger refs to start. johncreilly (Sligo) - Posts: 105 - 21/10/2024 11:23:52 2576121 Link