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Replying To isfeidirrlinn: "Both teams fined by the gaa if you recall" The thuggery was not punished due to lack of credible video evidence. No player was suspended for this reason. I don't think county boards can get away with throwing a few bob to escape bans for violent conduct somehow!!
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Very fair match analysis by Daragh O Cinneide on RnaG after mid day.
Listen back on Saol o Dheas podcast. Daragh is good presenter.
Anyone know what or who had the KY players so wound up .? . don't think it was Jack… gets a bit of flak but is a proven winner .. is it 5 All Irelands at this stage.
Curlew66 (Roscommon) - Posts: 658 - 25/05/2026 14:09:03
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Replying To ulsterrules: "When you watch the video back you see 2 Kerry players holding Ryan while one got the punch in, Kerry bravery.
But the Kerry #9 holding Ryan so he could not defend himself from #10, Those Kerry angels.
Normally you would say each county has a handfull of bad egg supporters but the boing of Murphy shows that Kerry might have more than most, I don't remember anyone being treated like that. All from one bad tackle in a league final ?" John Small got booed for years for one mistimed tackle and some would say it was dangerous in fairness, in Murphy's case calling it a tackle is a bit of a whitewash, firstly you can't tackle with a closed fisted, and you can't target the opponents neck/head.
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Replying To WeGoAgain: "I don't think Jim said anything whatsoever about it being an anti Donegal thing. He was put on the spot by a journo looking for the big story (gentleman or not, he knew full well what he was at). He looked like a rabbit in the headlights and didn't react well. So what, he's human and it was an absolutely nothing incident in the grand scheme of things. He was caught on the hop and got a very defensive. Big deal. He may get 12 weeks and if he doesn't it will be more due to the content of the ref's report. If Jim gets a suspension, there will be many others who will too, including Clifford." Are you serious? Jim does play the anti Donegal thing. Same with fixtures last year. Siege mentality. Journo wasn't looking for a story. It was a totally legit question and Jim was playing to the narrative .
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8843 - 25/05/2026 14:41:55
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Replying To ulsterrules: "When you watch the video back you see 2 Kerry players holding Ryan while one got the punch in, Kerry bravery.
But the Kerry #9 holding Ryan so he could not defend himself from #10, Those Kerry angels.
Normally you would say each county has a handfull of bad egg supporters but the boing of Murphy shows that Kerry might have more than most, I don't remember anyone being treated like that. All from one bad tackle in a league final ?" Tackle? Lol.
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8843 - 25/05/2026 14:42:50
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The Armagh wans getting all high and mighty about the weekend is the funniest take I've seen.
If it's melees, cheap shots, mouthing or eye gouging you're after, look no further.
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 10342 - 25/05/2026 14:50:04
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Replying To sligo joe: "John Small got booed for years for one mistimed tackle and some would say it was dangerous in fairness, in Murphy's case calling it a tackle is a bit of a whitewash, firstly you can't tackle with a closed fisted, and you can't target the opponents neck/head." Small plays on the edge. He lined up Eoghan McLaughlin to blindsude hit him yard and fair and the hit was mistimed slightly but awful consequences for Eoghan. If the same hit resulted in Eoghan bouncing up after he was hit we wouldn't be talking about it. We could do with a few players with an edge, besides Ryan O'Donoghue, in 2026.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8581 - 25/05/2026 14:58:44
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Replying To WeGoAgain: "Matters not one jot what Clifford's intention was, his arm was high, it was a red. You know what's also tiresome... McGuinness getting hounded by the entire country for every word or act he does out of place. People letting on that it's fairness issue and an upholding of the rules that they're pontificating about when it's nothing other than pure hatred for Jim that is driving them. I'm not referring to you, but it's all over social media. Lots of Armagh people seem awfully keen to uphold the gaa rule book, less so when the authorities couldn't act due to inconclusive video evidence of their thuggery after the ulster final last year. Strange that." It's Jim's way or no way, and the way he reacted to Tommy Rooney from Off The Ball asking him a question just about sums him up.
A incident on the pitch between 2 players is one thing, and maybe you're right about Clifford - same way Murphy should have walked in the league final too. But that's a separate issue.
But management and coaching staff should not be in the middle of a brawl, or pushing opposition players etc.. The ban to Ger Brennan was a precedent set by the GAA to prevent this sort of stuff. So when Jim McGuinness end up is in the middle of brawl pushing players about any screaming obscenities, don't be surprised if you're asked a question about whether you're worried you'll face a ban given what happened to Brennan.
Fair play to Tommy Rooney for asking it, if he had any bottle he'd have laid into Jim more. Why were you in the middle of a skirmish sort of thing?
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Replying To TheFlaker: "Are you serious? Jim does play the anti Donegal thing. Same with fixtures last year. Siege mentality. Journo wasn't looking for a story. It was a totally legit question and Jim was playing to the narrative ." And let's get real, what did you honestly expect Jim to say to that "legit question"? Like I said, he knew exactly what he was at.
WeGoAgain (Donegal) - Posts: 185 - 25/05/2026 15:15:59
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Replying To Cabbagepatch1667: " It's Jim's way or no way, and the way he reacted to Tommy Rooney from Off The Ball asking him a question just about sums him up.
A incident on the pitch between 2 players is one thing, and maybe you're right about Clifford - same way Murphy should have walked in the league final too. But that's a separate issue.
But management and coaching staff should not be in the middle of a brawl, or pushing opposition players etc.. The ban to Ger Brennan was a precedent set by the GAA to prevent this sort of stuff. So when Jim McGuinness end up is in the middle of brawl pushing players about any screaming obscenities, don't be surprised if you're asked a question about whether you're worried you'll face a ban given what happened to Brennan.
Fair play to Tommy Rooney for asking it, if he had any bottle he'd have laid into Jim more. Why were you in the middle of a skirmish sort of thing?" Did the brave Tommy have any tough questions for Jack about the behaviour of his players and coaching staff?
WeGoAgain (Donegal) - Posts: 185 - 25/05/2026 15:20:07
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Replying To WeGoAgain: "Did the brave Tommy have any tough questions for Jack about the behaviour of his players and coaching staff?" Did Jack O Connor push a Donegal player?
TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8843 - 25/05/2026 15:22:31
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Clifford should have been sent off - it was the same as Corks O Callaghan - striking with the arm to the head.
McGuinness should be banned to.
Also, both team should have their sideline teams (and subs) made to sit in the stand for the rest of the season.
It was an absolute joke that 45 men should be on the pitch.
If you follow the rule book
Third Man Rule (Gaelic Football): Any third or subsequent player who joins a melee not for the purpose of removing a teammate is deemed to have incited the incident. They are issued a Black Card, meaning they are sent to the sin-bin for 10 minutes or sent off entirely if it is a subsequent card.
Watching the footage
1st Row -
Clifford started - yellow card
Brendan McCole tries to grab Clifford - black Card
Max Campbell grabs Clifford - black Card
McCole Donegal mouthing at ref - 50m free and black card
Mogan & Moore - pushing clifford - black cards
Roarty running in and mouthing - black card
Murphy Running the length of the pitch to get involved - black Card
Foley, O Shea and P Clifford - black cards
Evan Looney pushing Murphy - black card
Breen throwing a shoulder - back card
Mulreavey - pushing - black card
Langan - grabs Kerry no 2 - black card
Maor Uisce from Donegal pushes No 21 Kerry - red Card and 12 week suspension
2nd Row
Ryan Mc Hugh gets manhandled - no offence
O Breien - Kerry - grabing McHugh - yellow Card
Burns - kerry jumps in and throws a punch - red Card
Paudie Clifford and O Sullivan Kerry - black cards for joining in
Gallen - black Card for joining in
McGuiness pushes no 9 kerry - red card and 12 match suspension
Somehow Evan Looney got a yellow instead of a black
Match should have restarted with
McGuiness and Maor Uisce in a pub in Killarney
Kerry should have been left with
Shane Murphy;
Dylan Casey
Eddie Healy on for Morley
Keith Evans
David Clifford
Dylan Geaney
Donegal
no GK
Shane O Donnell on for McHugh
Gallagher
Hugh McFadden
Oisin Gallen
Conor O Donnell
So half should have started with 6 Kerry v 6 Donegal - and therefore called off - if they ref did his job.
There are a whole load of players who could face a sanction as the ref didn't deal with their incidents.
If the GAA deal with it properly, both teams will struggle to field a team the next day out.
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Replying To TheFlaker: "Did Jack O Connor push a Donegal player?" He's in charge of his backroom surely?
WeGoAgain (Donegal) - Posts: 185 - 25/05/2026 15:36:05
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Replying To tirawleybaron: "Clifford should have been sent off - it was the same as Corks O Callaghan - striking with the arm to the head.
McGuinness should be banned to.
Also, both team should have their sideline teams (and subs) made to sit in the stand for the rest of the season.
It was an absolute joke that 45 men should be on the pitch.
If you follow the rule book
Third Man Rule (Gaelic Football): Any third or subsequent player who joins a melee not for the purpose of removing a teammate is deemed to have incited the incident. They are issued a Black Card, meaning they are sent to the sin-bin for 10 minutes or sent off entirely if it is a subsequent card.
Watching the footage
1st Row -
Clifford started - yellow card
Brendan McCole tries to grab Clifford - black Card
Max Campbell grabs Clifford - black Card
McCole Donegal mouthing at ref - 50m free and black card
Mogan & Moore - pushing clifford - black cards
Roarty running in and mouthing - black card
Murphy Running the length of the pitch to get involved - black Card
Foley, O Shea and P Clifford - black cards
Evan Looney pushing Murphy - black card
Breen throwing a shoulder - back card
Mulreavey - pushing - black card
Langan - grabs Kerry no 2 - black card
Maor Uisce from Donegal pushes No 21 Kerry - red Card and 12 week suspension
2nd Row
Ryan Mc Hugh gets manhandled - no offence
O Breien - Kerry - grabing McHugh - yellow Card
Burns - kerry jumps in and throws a punch - red Card
Paudie Clifford and O Sullivan Kerry - black cards for joining in
Gallen - black Card for joining in
McGuiness pushes no 9 kerry - red card and 12 match suspension
Somehow Evan Looney got a yellow instead of a black
Match should have restarted with
McGuiness and Maor Uisce in a pub in Killarney
Kerry should have been left with
Shane Murphy;
Dylan Casey
Eddie Healy on for Morley
Keith Evans
David Clifford
Dylan Geaney
Donegal
no GK
Shane O Donnell on for McHugh
Gallagher
Hugh McFadden
Oisin Gallen
Conor O Donnell
So half should have started with 6 Kerry v 6 Donegal - and therefore called off - if they ref did his job.
There are a whole load of players who could face a sanction as the ref didn't deal with their incidents.
If the GAA deal with it properly, both teams will struggle to field a team the next day out." And David Clifford stared the whole thing with a late hit AFTER the hooter and doesn't get any card?
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Replying To Cabbagepatch1667: " It's Jim's way or no way, and the way he reacted to Tommy Rooney from Off The Ball asking him a question just about sums him up.
A incident on the pitch between 2 players is one thing, and maybe you're right about Clifford - same way Murphy should have walked in the league final too. But that's a separate issue.
But management and coaching staff should not be in the middle of a brawl, or pushing opposition players etc.. The ban to Ger Brennan was a precedent set by the GAA to prevent this sort of stuff. So when Jim McGuinness end up is in the middle of brawl pushing players about any screaming obscenities, don't be surprised if you're asked a question about whether you're worried you'll face a ban given what happened to Brennan.
Fair play to Tommy Rooney for asking it, if he had any bottle he'd have laid into Jim more. Why were you in the middle of a skirmish sort of thing?" Its so transparent when all these people keep parroting this line and using Ger as an example.
shaggykev (Donegal) - Posts: 441 - 25/05/2026 15:51:21
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Replying To peiledoir20: "Listen to the football pod, one kerryman says Murphy deserved the booing.
Mask continues to slip from the saviours of football." Oh stop being so precious about a few boos.
You should be thankful Murphy was even allowed play on Saturday.
Seniorleague (Galway) - Posts: 17 - 25/05/2026 15:52:57
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Replying To sligo joe: "John Small got booed for years for one mistimed tackle and some would say it was dangerous in fairness, in Murphy's case calling it a tackle is a bit of a whitewash, firstly you can't tackle with a closed fisted, and you can't target the opponents neck/head." Michael Murphy did deserve a red card in the League final, I haven't heard anyone in Donegal say otherwise.
David Clifford likewise did deserve a red card for intentionally elbowing Caolan McGonigle, if it hadn't been for Caolans granite jaw, the Buncrana man could have been seriously hurt. Now I won't be soccer fan booing David Clifford or shouting abuse at him at future matches, because I understand he gets a lot of abuse from opposition players and I can understand why he gets frustrated and lashes out.
Jim McGuinness doesn't deserve a ban, far too little in it, hell I didn't think Ger Brennan deserved a ban, especially not a 12 week ban, which was ridiculous.
Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1843 - 25/05/2026 15:52:58
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Replying To Seniorleague: "Oh stop being so precious about a few boos.
You should be thankful Murphy was even allowed play on Saturday." I'm not being precious and it was more than a few. But you seem to have an unhealthy obsession with a player not from your own county. Why is that?
peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1632 - 25/05/2026 16:07:00
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Replying To Cabbagepatch1667: " It's Jim's way or no way, and the way he reacted to Tommy Rooney from Off The Ball asking him a question just about sums him up.
A incident on the pitch between 2 players is one thing, and maybe you're right about Clifford - same way Murphy should have walked in the league final too. But that's a separate issue.
But management and coaching staff should not be in the middle of a brawl, or pushing opposition players etc.. The ban to Ger Brennan was a precedent set by the GAA to prevent this sort of stuff. So when Jim McGuinness end up is in the middle of brawl pushing players about any screaming obscenities, don't be surprised if you're asked a question about whether you're worried you'll face a ban given what happened to Brennan.
Fair play to Tommy Rooney for asking it, if he had any bottle he'd have laid into Jim more. Why were you in the middle of a skirmish sort of thing?" Rooney was clickbaiting. Off the Ball, the hipster's clickbait. He's a better journalist than that. Maybe ask some football questions?
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8581 - 25/05/2026 16:12:28
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Replying To WeGoAgain: "Did the brave Tommy have any tough questions for Jack about the behaviour of his players and coaching staff?" Was Jack O'Connor in the middle of a brawl pushing his weight around the place? I don't think so.
And to be honest, the way Jim answered the questions has probably drawn more attention to the incident that there would have been in the first place.
It's an emotional sport, I get it. But no manager or no coach should be out in the middle of the field pushing opposition players or doing anything in fact. As soon as he stepped foot onto the playing field, he crossed the line
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