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Replying To MurphBalls:  "It's not that I'm giving very little countenance to those counties, I just don't put Galway or Roscommon ahead of Donegal. Galway might be on a par with them. And I don't think Kerry is as far ahead as everyone is making them out to be. I don't get this whole thing about putting Kerry ahead of everyone else. This has been going on for years now and I just don't understand it. Kerry go balls to the walls for the league because they have to. They had a settled team throughout the league so if they aren't winning the league then you'd be worried about them. I think come June/July Kerry will be right there in the middle of the pack. The team I'd be most worried about right now is Dublin. They have been written off after the league but those guys are all All Ireland winners and they are as hungry as ever it seems right now."
Definitely. Dessie Farrell must be secretly delighted the way things have panned out. They'll not give a damn about being in Division 2 in 2023. I'm sure it probably did hurt at the time and was a bit embarrassing for them but they'll rectify that when they have to next spring of that I have no doubt.

Dublin have Con back which is a game changer for them. Fenton and Kilkenny are rediscovering their form and they're moving up through the gears gradually through Leinster. There could be a tricky hurdle at the QF stage depending on how the qualifiers work out but if they get over that it's likely they'll face Kerry in the SF. When was the last time Kerry beat Dublin in Championship football? I could be wrong but I think it was all the way back in 2009, when Kerry annihilated them. So a bit of baggage there for Kerry to contend with. Cork did a good job on Kerry for 50 odd minutes and better teams than them have taken note I'm sure

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9116 - 19/05/2022 12:48:54    2418670

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Replying To kiloughter:  "I hear what you are saying but you are giving very little countenance to the fact that Galway and Ros may also be making progress or outside of Connacht this is not being recognised (conveniently or not). A lot of the current conversation nationally is on Derry (rightly so given they took down the all ireland champions). Tbh it is fair to say the 4 provincial finalists on our side of the draw could probably beat each other on a given day and all will believe this. However none currently will beat Kerry with Dublin a bit of an outlier as their mojo seems to be back. Don't get me wrong I would have no issue with Ros or the Two Ulster finalists getting the Holy grail if we are not in the mix."
Where does the notion that Kerry are the team to beat come from? A good league campaign? Kerry were knocked out by Tyrone last year and Cork the year before. They've reached the All-Ireland final once in the last six years.

greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 427 - 19/05/2022 12:58:51    2418676

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Replying To anotheralias:  "Roscommon 0-12 Derry 0-12
Roscommon were six points up in the 42nd minute"
Exactly, it was against Roscommon, a more inferior team to Donegal and Galway.

MurphBalls (Donegal) - Posts: 178 - 19/05/2022 13:02:56    2418680

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Replying To greatpoint:  "Where does the notion that Kerry are the team to beat come from? A good league campaign? Kerry were knocked out by Tyrone last year and Cork the year before. They've reached the All-Ireland final once in the last six years."
I think it's a combination of things.

1. It's Kerry
2. There's a serious itch to scratch in Kerry, one All Ireland win in 12 years is a famine for them.
3. They have improved defensively.
4. They have the most lethal forward in the game
5. They have one of the best free takers in the game
6. Their form in 2022 to date has been very good.

But you're right, I'm not totally buying into the hype either. Questions remain about their keeper and support cast if Clifford is tied up. They'll also be relatively untested if/when they do meet Dublin in the semi final, but I guess the same could be said fore the Dubs. The difference with the Dubs is they have the know-how and quality to totally derail Kerry's ambitions.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9116 - 19/05/2022 13:27:59    2418694

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Replying To AudiMan:  "Hi rorysboys: I'm trying to figure out something but struggling. Rory was always fairly animated on the line with clubs (Killybegs) and as sole manager with counties Donegal and Fermanagh but the 2 Championship games they have played this year he has taken that animation to a completely different level altogether, some of his carry on is off the Richter scale. What is the reason for that? Does he see something special in this Derry team that he didn't see in the previous teams mentioned and realises he could be on to something big here or does he feel he has to do that himself to keep the Derry players totally buoyed up throughout the match."
He has always being animated on the line. He seems to be getting worse every year. I would say in his mind he thinks they'll beat Donegal. As much as I admired him I hope his dream doesn't come thru. Have no time now for his antics. Watched him a few times lately when Donegal beat them and he never shook hands with any of the back room team. Sore loser

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2392 - 19/05/2022 15:49:32    2418753

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Replying To rorysboys:  "He has always being animated on the line. He seems to be getting worse every year. I would say in his mind he thinks they'll beat Donegal. As much as I admired him I hope his dream doesn't come thru. Have no time now for his antics. Watched him a few times lately when Donegal beat them and he never shook hands with any of the back room team. Sore loser"
Was standing behind the goals at the derry monaghan game and got a first hand experience of Gallaghers sideline antics. To be honest i found them pretty disgusting, he was continually cursing and given there was young children at the game in the stands and right behind him who could hear it all, i thought it was one of the rudest acts of behaviour i have seen at a game. The lack of respect from him to the youth in the stands and his actions are the antithesis of what we should train our youth to become.

monaghanmad (Monaghan) - Posts: 378 - 19/05/2022 16:36:12    2418766

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Replying To greatpoint:  "Where does the notion that Kerry are the team to beat come from? A good league campaign? Kerry were knocked out by Tyrone last year and Cork the year before. They've reached the All-Ireland final once in the last six years."
I totally get the reservations you and others have on Kerry. Maybe I am building them up which could be good for the rest of us lol. I think their defence has improved from last season although the real test will come from the q/f on. Like others I do agree Dublin could be in the best position of all with far more expectancy on Kerry.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1946 - 19/05/2022 16:55:06    2418773

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Replying To MurphBalls:  "It's not that I'm giving very little countenance to those counties, I just don't put Galway or Roscommon ahead of Donegal. Galway might be on a par with them. And I don't think Kerry is as far ahead as everyone is making them out to be. I don't get this whole thing about putting Kerry ahead of everyone else. This has been going on for years now and I just don't understand it. Kerry go balls to the walls for the league because they have to. They had a settled team throughout the league so if they aren't winning the league then you'd be worried about them. I think come June/July Kerry will be right there in the middle of the pack. The team I'd be most worried about right now is Dublin. They have been written off after the league but those guys are all All Ireland winners and they are as hungry as ever it seems right now."
Kerry came very close to knocking Dublin off their perch in 2019 and probably should have won it that year. They now have a more seasoned and proven manager working with that talent and should be stronger than they were then. That's not to say they are far ahead of everyone else but I would definitely put them down as favourites. I wouldn't rule out Dublin yet either. I can't see Donegal beating Dublin, Kerry or Mayo if they meet them in the latter stages. I agree that Donegal would be favourites to win if they played Galway or Roscommon but either of those teams are capable of turning Donegal over on their day.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 773 - 19/05/2022 17:07:11    2418778

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Replying To greatpoint:  "Where does the notion that Kerry are the team to beat come from? A good league campaign? Kerry were knocked out by Tyrone last year and Cork the year before. They've reached the All-Ireland final once in the last six years."
Management and recent form. Kerry and Mayo were the only two teams to challenge the Dubs when they were at the height of their powers. They have now done what Mayo probably should have done and brought in a manager who has All Ireland winning experience to try to bring them over the line. Mayo should have done everything in their power to get Jim McGuinness and he would have delivered them the holy grail. I don't think Kerry are guaranteed to win it but they've definitely increased their chances substantially by bringing in O'Connor.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 773 - 19/05/2022 17:15:36    2418781

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I think Donegal won't make the same mistakes as Monaghan and they willbe the new Ulster Champions.

border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 894 - 19/05/2022 17:34:56    2418790

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Replying To thelowball:  "That's the fear Roryboy with Bonner around the place, the ten pt beating ! Ure so smart and clever at answering ure own questions! To save us all the trouble u who is so close to the coat tails stop the suspense and tell us what Bonners plan is for the final!"
You can't answer any question, your becoming a bigger fool by the minute. I would say your grasp of football is very limited. Lol.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2392 - 19/05/2022 17:38:26    2418792

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Replying To MachaireConnacht:  "Kerry came very close to knocking Dublin off their perch in 2019 and probably should have won it that year. They now have a more seasoned and proven manager working with that talent and should be stronger than they were then. That's not to say they are far ahead of everyone else but I would definitely put them down as favourites. I wouldn't rule out Dublin yet either. I can't see Donegal beating Dublin, Kerry or Mayo if they meet them in the latter stages. I agree that Donegal would be favourites to win if they played Galway or Roscommon but either of those teams are capable of turning Donegal over on their day."
Look, we can sit here and say Donegal aren't good enough to overturn Mayo, Dublin, or Kerry but we all sat here last year saying the same thing about Tyrone and look what happened. Beat a good Kerry team and made mince meat of a Mayo team. Those three teams aren't as far ahead of everyone as most people think. I think there are 6 or 7 teams, that on their day, can win the All Ireland this year and I put Galway and Donegal as two of those teams. Roscommon haven't a hope no matter what way you look at it. I would give Cavan a better chance of overturning Donegal than Roscommon.

MurphBalls (Donegal) - Posts: 178 - 19/05/2022 17:42:22    2418794

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Replying To MurphBalls:  "Look, we can sit here and say Donegal aren't good enough to overturn Mayo, Dublin, or Kerry but we all sat here last year saying the same thing about Tyrone and look what happened. Beat a good Kerry team and made mince meat of a Mayo team. Those three teams aren't as far ahead of everyone as most people think. I think there are 6 or 7 teams, that on their day, can win the All Ireland this year and I put Galway and Donegal as two of those teams. Roscommon haven't a hope no matter what way you look at it. I would give Cavan a better chance of overturning Donegal than Roscommon."
Yes but Tyrone had reached a final only a few years previous (not to mention numerous semi finals) so had a good chunk of a team that proved they could get to an AI final, they just came up against one of the best teams to play the game. Tyrone were dark horses but they have been consistently in the final four the past 8-10 years. Arra stop, Roscommon have out muscled Cavan in recent years and the same for Armagh with the exception of last years league playoff. Roscommon haven't a hope of winning an AI but would fancy their chances against Donegal.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 773 - 19/05/2022 19:15:10    2418806

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Replying To monaghanmad:  "Was standing behind the goals at the derry monaghan game and got a first hand experience of Gallaghers sideline antics. To be honest i found them pretty disgusting, he was continually cursing and given there was young children at the game in the stands and right behind him who could hear it all, i thought it was one of the rudest acts of behaviour i have seen at a game. The lack of respect from him to the youth in the stands and his actions are the antithesis of what we should train our youth to become."
I don't know he has a voice box left. I was in the stand behind the dugout for the McKenna cup game back in the winter against Derry and he never stopped roaring the whole match. You could hear him in Stranorlar!

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1319 - 19/05/2022 20:12:46    2418812

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Replying To MachaireConnacht:  "Yes but Tyrone had reached a final only a few years previous (not to mention numerous semi finals) so had a good chunk of a team that proved they could get to an AI final, they just came up against one of the best teams to play the game. Tyrone were dark horses but they have been consistently in the final four the past 8-10 years. Arra stop, Roscommon have out muscled Cavan in recent years and the same for Armagh with the exception of last years league playoff. Roscommon haven't a hope of winning an AI but would fancy their chances against Donegal."
Are we talking about the same Roscommon here haha?

MurphBalls (Donegal) - Posts: 178 - 20/05/2022 09:56:41    2418848

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Replying To MurphBalls:  "Are we talking about the same Roscommon here haha?"
I would say Murph the issue is many don't give Ros the same chance of being in an all ireland final as the other 3 named teams on that side of the draw possibly due to historic pedigree. Or at least that could be the perception. Like plenty will think that Ros could very well beat us on Sunday week but if we are to win we would likely go further than them if they were to win if you know what I mean. Either way our game with them is very 50/50 whereas the Ulster final in my view is 60/40 in Donegal's favour and I am basing this purely on form over the season so far.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1946 - 20/05/2022 10:16:23    2418860

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Replying To Donegal_abroad:  "I don't know he has a voice box left. I was in the stand behind the dugout for the McKenna cup game back in the winter against Derry and he never stopped roaring the whole match. You could hear him in Stranorlar!"
Would agree with this, it sounds and portrays a bad image of our games to young people.

ryan (Donegal) - Posts: 724 - 20/05/2022 12:41:58    2418918

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Replying To MurphBalls:  "Are we talking about the same Roscommon here haha?"
So you're disputing our results against Cavan and Armagh? Keep laughing cos I will be after this when ye are dumped out before the semi finals.

MachaireConnacht (Roscommon) - Posts: 773 - 20/05/2022 16:05:29    2419032

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Replying To ryan:  "Would agree with this, it sounds and portrays a bad image of our games to young people."
The worst I ever saw him was in 2019 when we played Fermanagh in Enniskillen. One Donegal player in particular faced his verbal wrath that day and it was clear for all to hear as he was positioned right beside the TV mic for the full 70 minutes.

A great tactician no doubt but basic manners leave a lot to be desired.

Will be interesting to see his reaction either way (win or lose) on Sunday week.

peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 797 - 20/05/2022 17:48:12    2419055

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Any word on how ticket sales are going. People saying today that they can't get any tickets. Read somewhere that Derry clubs requested 13k. Don't know how true that is. Surely Derry above anybody won't outnumber us.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2392 - 20/05/2022 19:13:44    2419065

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