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Replying To fionmaccumhaill: "I am not per se finding fault with the five players at all. Far from it. They give their all for Donegal and that is good enough for me. The point I am makng is that five of that type of player is too many in the engine room. While they certainly give an advantage in the aerial stakes for kickouts I believe that playing so many languid players causes a lot of problems also.
You see it is not only straight line speed that is at issue. I would also be looking at reaction speeds, covering breaks, adapting to a change in direction by the opposition. That type of thing.
Last Sunday there was quite a number of times where we didn't get to breaks in the middle quickly enough and Cavan players waltzing around supposed tackles. Maybe its just that we are not nimble and light footed enough. Like why his trainer got Sylvester Stallone to try catch the chicken in Rocky I !!!
For me we didn't do great on high fielding on Sunday which got me to think about the balance of the team. We have quite a number of small players and also these these large players but maybe not enough of the Eoin Bán who has searing pace and can break the line. I think that Oisín Gallen has been a big loss to us this year with his running power and ability to carry." Oisin Gallen is due back before the Ulster Final, but he probably won't be fully match fit at that point.
He is an exceptional player, his height, pace and scoring ability is outstanding, I hope he finally gets a good run.
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Replying To Commodore: "I attended the "SCAT Concussion in sport" conference at Atlantic Technical University (ATU) Letterkenny Campus last night, where key note speaker was Dr Kevin Moran - Donegal Team Doctor and Former Donegal Ladies Footballer Kate Keaney who is working in Chicago with the US International Ladies soccer and suffered significant concussion in the past.
The second half of the show had 7 or 8 PhD students present projects they are currently involved in, and it was fascinating stuff.
- One study by monitored GAA players in two groups through Pre-Season, League, Provincial Championship and All Ireland Championship, to see how training patterns could increase the risk of Cruciate or other injuries.
- Another study was monitoring Protein and nutrient levels in people who suffer concussion.
- Robotics to assist people with serious or life changing injuries.
- Virtual reality consoles to help more accurately test peoples cognitive controls after head injuries.
- Concussion in Female sports analysis of difference versus men and how recovery might need to differ.
Every single project was outstanding, every speaker delivered interesting presentations. Particularly 3 or 4 related to Donegal GAA, it was really fascinating stuff. It opened my eyes to the long-term effects and how difficult it is to recover, Dr Kevin Moran's insight and experience at an International level was exceptional." Sounds brilliant Commodore, I've always been a bit worried about concussion protocols in Gaelic games, it's rare enough for that type of impact in comparison to say, rugby or even soccer sometimes when you see the clash of heads, but at the same time a big shoulder can knock a man badly. A mis-timed shoulder is worse but even a well timed one that is legal in the rules could have a bad impact in my view and I wonder about how we handle it, especially seeing as these players are all amateurs.
JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 13/05/2022 12:26:13
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Finally getting the time to get my views down, it's been after the watershed every evening before I could catch up. There have been a few interesting opinions, a couple I hadn't considered.
We did wonder about whether we could play Ryan and Peadar Mogan in the same line, but I hadn't even considered a perceived weakness in playing 5 big men across the middle of the field.
Of the big men, Hughie was a little exposed on Sunday, and the knock after half time probably worked in our favour. Caolán McGonigle is a fantastic replacement, power speed intelligence and a score getter. Having said that, the Cavan midfield were very good, scored some fantastic scores, and manoeuvred themselves into dangerous positions.
Management were a little slow to remedy the problem at full back. McCole has been brilliant this year, but Lynch was a different proposition. And although we lost a little of Eoghan Ban going forward, sometimes these are the sacrifices you have to make. I wouldn't particularly see this as a weakness. On the point of Caolán Ward, from where I was sitting, it was clear that he was feeling a knock or something like that, he had signalled about 6 or 7 minutes before he went off that he had a problem. I hope its nothing serious as he was very good again on Sunday.
After a quiet outing the last day, Jamie Brennan gave a fantastic display, scores off left and right, and a palmed effort near the end of the 1st half. He ran his legs off, and you could see that he had to be replaced as he wasn't able to follow back any more. That performance will do his confidence the world of good. He'll be a marked man the next day, but that makes room for others to step up.
We have to get more from our half forward line. They didn't perform at their best on Sunday. I don't know if it was tactical on our behalf, or did Cavan just shut them down. Much more needed from Langan and Thompson the next day. In the first half especially, they overplayed the ball and coughed up possession.
All in all, you would have to be happy enough, we won playing poorly, which is (but not always) the sign of a good team. On another day the spilled passes will go to hand, and we will get the goals our play deserves. I am actually glad that we didn't get those goals against Cavan, and that in a way, we are still flying a little under the radar. The last thing we need with Donegal is over confidence, it doesn't suit us in the long run.
Will it be Derry or Monaghan. I actually think it will be Monaghan, and with their record against us, they would have to be favourites. But we'll see how Sunday goes first.
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I'm not quite sure who these 5 big men across the middle are. The last day for midfield was mcfadden, mcgee and the half forward line of Thompson, Shane o'donnell and langan. That's at most 4 big men and as much as Thompson is very good to win a ball over his head I wouldn't really call him a big man. When mcgonagle came on it was for mcfadden so that was still 4. Maybe it includes murphy coming out for the ff line. Even if it does you do have, mogan, Ryan mchugh, ban and shane o'donnell around the middle to win breaking ball.
Some of the bigger men possibly are not as nimble on their but overall I think balance is decent. Say for example the last league match against armagh the hf line was Conor and shane o'donnell and Ryan mchugh. Donegal, particularly when armagh pushed up really hard in the second half, struggled to win their own ball. They really missed the Thompson and langan option (though langan did come near the end).
I heard a good interview with Joyce Mcmullin about mcole before the cavan match. Mccole was rightly praised for his defending up to the cavan match. The fb can be a very exposed position and he made that point that you are never far away from a tough day so don't get too up or too down. Although he was doing well in division 4 lynch was a little bit of a bolter who was excellent in the first half. Putting ban on him wasn't the only reason either in keeping him quiet. In open play Mchugh came back and sat in very deep which also helped eliminate the ball in option.
Ulsterchamps_32 (Donegal) - Posts: 692 - 14/05/2022 10:15:19
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I believe that the last two games, a few things have shown up that if we dont address now, it will be to late.
I believe that ferry and neil mcgee need to start in the ulster final. I believe neil is still our best option in full back if fully fit. And i would move mccole to the corner. Mcmemanin would lose out as i believe he lacks speed, and will get exposed in croke park if we get there.
Ferry is aggressive and adds more physically to our defence. Plue he is good in possession also.
Mcfadden in midfield would also lose out, lacks pace and has got caught losing possession a number of times.
I am not sure who would replace him, leaning towards playing either Thomson or langan in there with mcgee, as i believe niall o'donnell is to good a footballer to be sitting in the bench. Have him replace one of the two i mentioned moving to midfield.
Jamie brennan thankfully is starting to get match fit.
Murphy thankfully is staying in more.
Mcbrearty for me has lost his pace to take a man on and beat him. And drifts in out out of games.
Still would probably start him, but he needs to improve as hopefully gallon will be getting back to full fitness.
There is a good team there if picked right and prepared right. So hopefully we will be peaking in croke park against a top tier side and showing what most of us already know, we have the footballers, we just need the right focus.
The keeper (Donegal) - Posts: 687 - 14/05/2022 13:52:43
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Replying To The keeper: "I believe that the last two games, a few things have shown up that if we dont address now, it will be to late.
I believe that ferry and neil mcgee need to start in the ulster final. I believe neil is still our best option in full back if fully fit. And i would move mccole to the corner. Mcmemanin would lose out as i believe he lacks speed, and will get exposed in croke park if we get there.
Ferry is aggressive and adds more physically to our defence. Plue he is good in possession also.
Mcfadden in midfield would also lose out, lacks pace and has got caught losing possession a number of times.
I am not sure who would replace him, leaning towards playing either Thomson or langan in there with mcgee, as i believe niall o'donnell is to good a footballer to be sitting in the bench. Have him replace one of the two i mentioned moving to midfield.
Jamie brennan thankfully is starting to get match fit.
Murphy thankfully is staying in more.
Mcbrearty for me has lost his pace to take a man on and beat him. And drifts in out out of games.
Still would probably start him, but he needs to improve as hopefully gallon will be getting back to full fitness.
There is a good team there if picked right and prepared right. So hopefully we will be peaking in croke park against a top tier side and showing what most of us already know, we have the footballers, we just need the right focus." Good points keeper, Neil is the old head with loads of experience but we just don't know how he is yet for pace and fitness, MFF is a given has to start but needs to watch the temperament, with hugh and Steven I suppose the management are trying to get them up to match fitness after long layoffs taught the two of them were a bit better the other day, so maybe persist yet for another while.Wondering would Thompson make a good sweeper, when he's on the ball is constantly looking up the field and is very strong if a mans running through from deep.
Tyrion (Donegal) - Posts: 160 - 15/05/2022 11:26:23
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A lot to think about for an Ulster final! Derry will take some stopping.
Clearly losing a big lead to them or even 3/4 points is very dangerous. It would all point to a very cagey final as Donegal I would anticipate will replicate the Derry game plan and ensure they get to half time close, level or 1/2 ahead. They will have to ask Derry questions they haven't been asked yet.
That said, Derry are clear favourites as they've beaten better opponents than Donegal have. They are hungry, intense and manic. It's certainly like Donegal 2011/2012. The players are absolutely there, the youth and mobility is there too to play that game plan. Derry are in a very good place now, back to back performances have proven this is no one-off. Their ambitions look much more lofty.
Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 15/05/2022 18:13:09
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I do think McMenamin has lost pace since his injury but I thought he did a really good job on McKiernan the last day so would be a harsh enough move to drop him after that performance.
Derry will be a very tough proposition as we saw last year and the momentum and belief they have now... Monaghan were wasteful but were forced into some bad decisions as well by brilliant Derry defending. I would worry for us if we stick with the slow build up, Derry will swallow it up.
JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 15/05/2022 18:23:25
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Replying To JoeSoap: "I do think McMenamin has lost pace since his injury but I thought he did a really good job on McKiernan the last day so would be a harsh enough move to drop him after that performance.
Derry will be a very tough proposition as we saw last year and the momentum and belief they have now... Monaghan were wasteful but were forced into some bad decisions as well by brilliant Derry defending. I would worry for us if we stick with the slow build up, Derry will swallow it up." Overall Mcmenamin did a very decent job on McKernan particularly in the first half. McKernan did come into it in the second but he's a very good player and looks in good condition as well. Though against turbitt in ballybofey he did get burned for the first point. Though as much as you suspected they might target him even more he didn't concede again. He did also struggle against mcguigan last year though he seemed to be carrying an injury.
Mccole did well in mcguigan last year when he came on so they'll probably go there again. Mcmenamin would probably pick up herron who's been good this year. I just don't think it's realistic to think McGee could make it after playing so little football. Mcff even though he's plenty tenacious he can be a little rash for disciplined man marking.
You like to keep ban free to run at them. O'Connell made a big difference when he came on and ran at them today. Loughlin seemed to hurt his hamstring so interesting to see what happens there.
What Derry have also shown is that Donegal were not that bad last year when they beat them. It was a high quality game with loads of good scores. Langan and Niall O'Donnell were very good and have not got to that level yet this year. Overall Donegal aren't as free scoring as a few years ago and Derry could keep the FF line quiet. Their fb matches up well, mckaigue on mcbrearty, Rodgers on Murphy. (He was excellent in Mohan) and McCloskey on Brennan. Donegal will need scores from all over. I think Donegal will target the Derry kickout. It's been a constant tactic.
Derry definitely have similarities to Donegal in 11\12 and will really fancy their chances
Ulsterchamps_32 (Donegal) - Posts: 692 - 15/05/2022 19:30:12
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Like south of the gap a bit after the event getting on here. I generally read up in the evening when threads are closed plus in truth much preferred the old outlay with a forum on the Donegal page.
On last weekend firstly congrats to all involved. Reaching a tenth Ulster final in 12 years is some achievement despite underachieving outside of Ulster since 2014. On the game itself I was really impressed by Cavan and especially Mickey Graham who is clearly a top coach/manager. I knew Cavan would be a bigger challenge to a disappointing Armagh bar the excellent Grugan. In Raymond Galligan they have a very good keeper especially on restarts. Thomas Galligan is a top midfielder and Smith had a great game. I wasn't sure if Lynch would repeat his league form but he was excellent in the first half till ban got a hold of him. Getting in all square at HT was a result in itself with lots of sloppy play and ineffective lateral backwards play. Thankfully in the second half Donegal were a bit more direct and not as sloppy in possession. Big performances from Patton, Mcmenamin, ban and Jamie Brennan who was good to see back in form and exercise some ghosts from the athletic grounds where he didn't get into the game. I thought Ryan was very good again and of course cannot not mention Michael Murphy. He is motoring along nicely with plenty more to come. A fully fit Murphy is some prospect for opponents to try stop.
I am struggling to find where Donegal are at. Is it a positive to be in an Ulster final without putting a full performance together or are we there for the taking? I just don't know. What I do know is that some of the faire produced in the first half last Sunday will not be good enough outside of Ulster and probably be game over at HT. More variation will certainly be needed as otherwise we'll be easily sussed.
Onto Derry and looking forward to the build up. I think most of the attention will be on Derry which could be in Donegals favour. Derry won't fear Donegal and how Donegal handle McGuigan and Glass especially will decide how the game goes. Need I mention the 2015 minor championship game again when Glass almost beat the young and highly rated Donegal lads on his own?
Speaking of the minors good win yesterday after letting Monaghan back into it from an impossible position. Also Tyrone produce yet again at AI level after a titanic tussle with Donegal on their way. They were almost playing in cheat mode having McGlenan in their side. Much like the Donegal game he was colossal.
panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 15/05/2022 19:35:35
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Replying To panamasam: "Like south of the gap a bit after the event getting on here. I generally read up in the evening when threads are closed plus in truth much preferred the old outlay with a forum on the Donegal page.
On last weekend firstly congrats to all involved. Reaching a tenth Ulster final in 12 years is some achievement despite underachieving outside of Ulster since 2014. On the game itself I was really impressed by Cavan and especially Mickey Graham who is clearly a top coach/manager. I knew Cavan would be a bigger challenge to a disappointing Armagh bar the excellent Grugan. In Raymond Galligan they have a very good keeper especially on restarts. Thomas Galligan is a top midfielder and Smith had a great game. I wasn't sure if Lynch would repeat his league form but he was excellent in the first half till ban got a hold of him. Getting in all square at HT was a result in itself with lots of sloppy play and ineffective lateral backwards play. Thankfully in the second half Donegal were a bit more direct and not as sloppy in possession. Big performances from Patton, Mcmenamin, ban and Jamie Brennan who was good to see back in form and exercise some ghosts from the athletic grounds where he didn't get into the game. I thought Ryan was very good again and of course cannot not mention Michael Murphy. He is motoring along nicely with plenty more to come. A fully fit Murphy is some prospect for opponents to try stop.
I am struggling to find where Donegal are at. Is it a positive to be in an Ulster final without putting a full performance together or are we there for the taking? I just don't know. What I do know is that some of the faire produced in the first half last Sunday will not be good enough outside of Ulster and probably be game over at HT. More variation will certainly be needed as otherwise we'll be easily sussed.
Onto Derry and looking forward to the build up. I think most of the attention will be on Derry which could be in Donegals favour. Derry won't fear Donegal and how Donegal handle McGuigan and Glass especially will decide how the game goes. Need I mention the 2015 minor championship game again when Glass almost beat the young and highly rated Donegal lads on his own?
Speaking of the minors good win yesterday after letting Monaghan back into it from an impossible position. Also Tyrone produce yet again at AI level after a titanic tussle with Donegal on their way. They were almost playing in cheat mode having McGlenan in their side. Much like the Donegal game he was colossal." Good to see your post. All very good points. I'll be optimistic in saying that we're coming into fitness and form!! We won Ulster convincingly in 18 and 19 and then got some bad injuries so fingers crossed it will be the other way around this year. It mind be blind optimism but we'll see.
I was thinking about the match in Derry when Tyrone won yesterday. Donegal had chances that evening. Mcglennan was immense against us and as much as he had moments yesterday his performance in Derry was a level above. Canavan was a joy at times yesterday. There's plenty potential senior players from that Donegal team though. A good few will be playing for lyit in the sigerson and hopefully they can push in it too.
And a good win for the minors. Tyrone have been hammering everyone so a tough semi awaits. I suppose that's an opportunity though.
Ulsterchamps_32 (Donegal) - Posts: 692 - 15/05/2022 21:30:03
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Replying To Donegal_abroad: "A lot to think about for an Ulster final! Derry will take some stopping.
Clearly losing a big lead to them or even 3/4 points is very dangerous. It would all point to a very cagey final as Donegal I would anticipate will replicate the Derry game plan and ensure they get to half time close, level or 1/2 ahead. They will have to ask Derry questions they haven't been asked yet.
That said, Derry are clear favourites as they've beaten better opponents than Donegal have. They are hungry, intense and manic. It's certainly like Donegal 2011/2012. The players are absolutely there, the youth and mobility is there too to play that game plan. Derry are in a very good place now, back to back performances have proven this is no one-off. Their ambitions look much more lofty." Derry are definitely further along than they were in 2021, they look the part now.
Declan Bonner made some terrible tactical blunders in Ballybofey last year, Eoin McHugh at corner back against Benny Herron and Ryan McHugh on Gareth McKinless were absolutely mis-matches, which proved costly.
Derry are stronger this year, but I think this Donegal team are actually stronger than last year too, its easy to overlook the fact we had 8 or 9 key players out injured for most of the National League and have only had players returning in drips and drabs since Round 6 and 7 of the League and building match fitness.
The Cavan game seen us improve slightly on the Armagh game, with all of our inside forwards and midfield looking good, we will need our half forwards all to fire if we are to beat Derry and we need to keep a clean sheet, no goals conceded.
Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1114 - 15/05/2022 21:48:35
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Derry it is well. They looked formidable yesterday. Who'll pick up Mc Kinless, and Mc guigan. We can't let Derry start well if they do it'll be impossible to claw them back. Where do posters think Murphy should play. Can't see him having any room at fullforward. Watching Derry yesterday they'll have 14 behind the ball when we attack. I feel Patton will have to go long a lot of the time. Derry will concede the kick outs but we can't keep going short. My worst scenario is Gallagher jumping about the sideline giving fist pumps and spitting on his hands. Time for our lads to put a stop to giving him that chance to celebrate and make sure he'll lose another Ulster final. Let's come in big numbers hopefully to see Murphy lift another Ulster.
rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2404 - 16/05/2022 11:02:25
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Replying To rorysboys: "Derry it is well. They looked formidable yesterday. Who'll pick up Mc Kinless, and Mc guigan. We can't let Derry start well if they do it'll be impossible to claw them back. Where do posters think Murphy should play. Can't see him having any room at fullforward. Watching Derry yesterday they'll have 14 behind the ball when we attack. I feel Patton will have to go long a lot of the time. Derry will concede the kick outs but we can't keep going short. My worst scenario is Gallagher jumping about the sideline giving fist pumps and spitting on his hands. Time for our lads to put a stop to giving him that chance to celebrate and make sure he'll lose another Ulster final. Let's come in big numbers hopefully to see Murphy lift another Ulster." Yeah I think a lot of the gripes people have with style of play will be at the forefront out of necessity in 2 weeks time. Murphy will be out the field a lot to try and get space and on the ball. McBrearty and Brennan will be starved of space inside. I've no idea who would be best suited for McKinless to be honest, you could see the logic last year of putting Ryan on him to try and force him back the other way but it didn't work then and I don't think it would work now.
I think we have to go long on the kickout more often than not, I said on the main forum just because a team is giving you the short one doesn't mean you take it. Patton has the ability to pick out our big men out the field and I think we have to try it as much as possible. If you lose some, that's just part of it, you'll get more joy out of the ones you win I believe.
I think Cavan was a great test for the team to prepare for the Derry match as I think both sides are brilliant defensively and break at pace with plenty quality to take the scores. So we will be well warned and prepared for Derry between the match in Ballybofey last year and all the evidence of this year. Goals will be absolutely massive scores in this game, you are right I don't want to see us going down by 3 or 4 points as I believe it will be very hard to reel Derry back in if it gets to that stage. A good start is key and I want us to move the ball quickly. Sometimes you have to be smart, patient and retain possession but I really think early on we should go for the jugular and try and get the scoreboard ticking over early. If we fall into those periods of play where we're going over and back with no penetration or speed, I think Derry will lap that up. Eoghan Bán is really the only man that can break those patterns of play and I think Derry will target him big time.
We will need much better performances from our half-forwards than we got against Cavan that's for sure. But I think we can target the Derry kickout and get plenty joy, just like we did against Cavan at times when we pushed up on them. Derry have a sense about them this year that they are ready to make the breakthrough but hopefully we can delay it another while yet. They do seem like us back in 2011, or even Monaghan coming a couple years after that.
On Rory, I think he used to have a tendency to overthink things but I think he has learned a lot especially from his time in charge of Donegal to be honest. He has already left behind at least one Ulster title when he was in charge of us. So I am worried but it should be a great battle, I don't think it's going to be a particularly high quality match, more of an arm wrestle. If we come out the other end of it with an Ulster title I think we will be in great shape going in to the All-Ireland series psychologically to be honest.
JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 16/05/2022 11:42:06
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I have a question now for the anti management brigade how would yous set up against Derry and who would you task with the matchups . This especially to low ball, Murphy balls, Marty, Naomi Conal. Stockholm. No point talking after saying I told you so. Now is the time. I await with bated breath
rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2404 - 16/05/2022 13:01:34
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An excellent win for Derry yesterday, they were fantastic in the first half and really took the game to Monaghan. I am not sure what Monaghan were trying to do, they made a good fist of it in the second half but gave themselves a mountain to climb. I think we have to put things into perspective though, Derry have a very set game plan that we have seen before from Rory, there is nothing new here. Surely the Donegal management team can come up with something to counter these tactics? As others have pointed out, if we persist with taking short kick outs and building slowly from the back, we will get beat, I have no doubt about that. There is a reason why teams give us the kickout.
If we do take short kickouts then we have to move the ball quickly, otherwise we will just hit a wall of players and get turned over, in turn this will give Derry more belief. It will be a nightmare for the full forward line but we have the players to kick from distance. There probably is no point MM playing at full forward. The key to winning this game will be keeping it close in the opening half. Derry have opened up a huge gap in the first half of both championship games so far. However, they only scored 5 points in the second half yesterday, the second half goal was decisive but was against the run of play. This was a feature of Rory's tenure in charge of Donegal, we would blast out of the traps and build up a lead but unfortunately get reeled in. The Ulster finals of 2015 and 2016 are a case in point. To be fair to Rory, not sure the Donegal team at that time had the legs for that type of game, this Derry team definitely do. On the flipside, I think we should press their kickouts, just don't let them out, make it as difficult as possible.
Kicking points from distance could be the key and we have men to do that - Murphy, Langan, Thompason and Jason McGee. I am hopeful we can win but we are going to have to play much better than we have been.
Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1874 - 16/05/2022 14:14:34
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Replying To rorysboys: "I have a question now for the anti management brigade how would yous set up against Derry and who would you task with the matchups . This especially to low ball, Murphy balls, Marty, Naomi Conal. Stockholm. No point talking after saying I told you so. Now is the time. I await with bated breath" Tell you our opinion for you to berate us?
MurphBalls (Donegal) - Posts: 178 - 16/05/2022 14:45:32
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Replying To MurphBalls: "Tell you our opinion for you to berate us?" Get off the fence lad gave us your opinion on the matchups and where to play Murphy. It's time to talk now and not when games over. Should not be to hard for you.
rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2404 - 16/05/2022 15:14:59
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Replying To rorysboys: "Get off the fence lad gave us your opinion on the matchups and where to play Murphy. It's time to talk now and not when games over. Should not be to hard for you." I already give my opinion in the Donegal - Derry thread. You can go in there and have a look if you want.
MurphBalls (Donegal) - Posts: 178 - 16/05/2022 17:07:34
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Replying To MurphBalls: "I already give my opinion in the Donegal - Derry thread. You can go in there and have a look if you want." Yea interesting putting Mc fadden ferry on Mc kinless. You didn't mention Murphy. In my eyes this is the biggest poser.
rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2404 - 17/05/2022 11:04:59
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