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We scored 9/21 scoring chances in the first half so if we had more composure it could have been a hammering. Picking and choosing your arguments there. Your delusional Mayo friends have been much closer to Sam now for many years than your team has.
Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 28/04/2022 15:54:06 2413913 Link 1 |
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While I don't hold the same view on ye as my fellow county poster tbh the response is a reflection of how defensive posters are of their team. Anyone with a reasonable knowledge of football or saw the game live would know that Galway should have won by a lot more last Sunday but game managed the last 7 mins poorly. The poster who states we don't belong at the top table has some cheek and obviously only wants to believe what he/ she hears. For what it is worth I would think Donegal are very decent but it amazes me reading various threads how people like to run down other teams and the response from some Donegal posters is no different to the initial post by the Galway poster. In reality Donegal are in the same bracket as Galway (part of a group trying to break into the top 4). Whether you like to hear this or not the facts back up such.
kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1946 - 28/04/2022 16:05:10 2413917 Link 0 |
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A bit more composure from Donegal and we probably would have put an additional 10-14 points. Looking at the rest of the teams capable of winning the All Ireland this year (Dublin, Kerry, Tyrone, Monaghan, Galway, Mayo IMO), and ignoring the National League based on Injuries etc, I fancy Donegal to win Ulster and the All Ireland this year. All depends on us keeping the core of the team injury free and building momentum, but the team is starting to pull together and the bulk of the team are back from Injury now after having 8 or 9 missing for most of the National League. Starting to feel it, not based on the Armagh performance, but I don't see any other team that I would say are miles better than us. Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1114 - 28/04/2022 16:15:40 2413922 Link 0 |
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I actually totally agree that Galway and Donegal are in a very similar space as two counties who have lots of potential but need to start delivering on it. Both top 6/7 teams who need to drive on and make statements against the Kerry, Tyrone and Dublins of this world (if) they make it to the quarters.
Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 28/04/2022 17:09:29 2413932 Link 0 |
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My thoughts exactly. In fairness the ashure poster is generally good on our own forum and is not typically one of our doomsday posters. For what it is worth Donegal have a great chance in Ulster although there are no gimme's from hereon. Cavan will definitely put it up to ye but I expect Donegal to get over the line. On the other side it will be interesting to see if Derry can really put it up to Tyrone and am sure Monaghan will have a say beyond that. In our situation and assuming ourselves and the Rossies progress the Connacht final would be 50/50. Reality is while we should have won by more last Sunday some of our young but very talented footballers like Sean Kelly and Matthew Tierney had quiet days so we have loads more to give. Another worry for both of our teams is the fact Michael Murphy in your case and Paul Conroy in ours cannot be carrying that level of load if either progress to the latter stages.
kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1946 - 29/04/2022 08:57:00 2413983 Link 0 |
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Conroy is an excellent footballer i must say. Very impressed by what I saw from him last weekend. Paddy McBrearty got 1-1 for us so he's a threat and he needs to perform to alleviate the pressure on Murphy as you say. Jamie Brennan will have better days too. I actually felt the likes of Langan, McHugh, Mogan, Jason McGee, Brendan McCole and Eoghan Ban Gallagher showed a lot of leadership the last day and that's maybe where we have fallen down in recent years, overly reliant on Murphy to be the consistently excellent player. Any team wanting an All Ireland needs the majority of players to be hitting 9/10 performances each day out in championship. Be interested to see how your county goes from here now too. To be fair, no more than ourselves against Cavan, if you've any notions of further progress then you'll need to beat Roscommon without major fuss.
Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 29/04/2022 09:55:33 2413996 Link 0 |
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Hard luck to the donegal minors. Derry were the better team though hope they don't get upset about it. They lost by 5 but gifted them the two goals. Donegal finished the game strongly as well scoring the last 4 points and with a bit more composure would have scored more. It would have been easy to drop the head and they didn't. The number 7 Martin was cramping and he still chased his man back and helped in the turnover. Yes they struggled to score and will be frustrated at times with careless turnovers and wrong options. They should though focus on the positives of not giving up and the last 15 mins in advance of the backdoor game next week. Ulsterchamps_32 (Donegal) - Posts: 692 - 07/05/2022 15:47:15 2415426 Link 1 |
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Bonner has to go. His closest idea to an attacking plan is to keep giving it to Bán and Mogan to carry up the field and over hit handpasses to the forwards for easy turnovers. We were found out 3 years ago, and we've been playing the same way for 5. Forget about the argument "who out there is any better". Id take Bert and Ernie over Rochford and Bonner papa_pump (Donegal) - Posts: 71 - 08/05/2022 16:54:57 2415612 Link 0 |
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Bit of an over-reaction. We have room to improve but we saw out a tight contest which we have failed to do at times in recent years.
Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 08/05/2022 17:50:25 2415632 Link 0 |
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Jesus, who pissed on your cornflakes. Yes, it wasn't brilliant and we still have some work to do but we won a close one and are through to another Ulster Final. Some people are never happy. MartinEgan (UK) - Posts: 80 - 08/05/2022 18:13:55 2415643 Link 4 |
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Cavan should have been out of sight at half time. They can count themselves unlucky not to have had a penalty in the 2nd minute, and but for a finger tip from Patton they were inches from a goal from play towards the end of the half. I'm not being cantankerous for the sake of it. Anyone could have told you exactly how we would set out to play today. The exact same way as we have for 5 years. Our build up in the first half lacked any sort of urgency, and was rife with immature handling errors. We certainly shouldn't just leather it up for the sake of it, but we had consistently declined to take so much as a semblance of a risk by hitting a testing ball in on top of the keeper. At half time, when I posted, there was no positives to be taken other than that Cavan were somehow not miles in front. Initially the second half was an improvement, we saw a bit more direct play - but when Cavan settled we abandoned it for safe possession again. Our two goals came from mishit efforts from way out the field which Cavan's back line made a hames of dealing with. Would make you wonder why it took 60 minutes to put ball in like it in the first place. Some people are never happy you say. Genuine question, is simply getting to an Ulster final enough? Cavan have a handful of good players, and Mickey Graham is shrewd, but Gallagher/Banty are every bit as shrewd and with deeper squads, road tested against Division 1 quality sides. An imperfect performance is fine, there's no such thing as perfect. But that performance today was fundamentally unsound. Two fluke goals won't beat Derry or Monaghan. papa_pump (Donegal) - Posts: 71 - 08/05/2022 19:40:25 2415695 Link 1 |
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Job done today and that's what semi finals are all about right? peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 801 - 08/05/2022 20:03:07 2415710 Link 0 |
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Go to games and support your county, suit you better than running down everybody. Shud have been out of sight at half time. Such a one sided comment.
rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2404 - 08/05/2022 20:28:16 2415725 Link 1 |
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Got to say I am happy with this result. Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 08/05/2022 20:32:18 2415728 Link 1 |
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Since when was a six point game a tight game . Some of the posts on here take the biscuit . Our record in Ulster this past dozen or so years is second to none. Its spoilt we are as football fans . spoons2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 253 - 08/05/2022 20:38:42 2415731 Link 0 |
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I think this is actually an interesting elaboration on your initial point. I think you're being hard on Donegal but not in a bad way, not in a cheap, lazy way but in a way that's asking tough questions of us. That's fair enough to me. I do sometimes feel the way we try and slow the game down and hold possession in a controlled manner could be targeted by a really high octane team like Mayo on their best days or a ravenous Kerry. I'm no expert though so maybe we need to conserve energy for moments as we do so much hard running in games too. Defensively, I thought we were better the last day out. But the second half was better. If I'm right, we conceded 8 points from play which isn't bad and no goal for a second consecutive game is good. But we could and would have conceded goals today against a better team on that first half performance. My own take is that you're outlining clear reasons why we are short of the top table but who knows, maybe that will come in time. For now, I'm personally happy to have won two Ulster games in a row by 6/7 points in each. I'm also pleased we have shown maturity in each game and resilience today when we were really in a battle with the clock ticking down. Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 08/05/2022 20:40:19 2415732 Link 1 |
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Another strong second half showing got us over the line. Plenty of room for improvement and it will be needed to win the final, irrespective of the opposition. Our full forward line showed how good they can be when they get early ball. Thought mm was very good at ff in the second half. Bet game from Jamie Brennan for some time and our half back line was also very good in the second period. Apity gallen still isn't fit as it was the kind of game he could have made hay in if sprung from the bench. totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 916 - 09/05/2022 08:36:30 2415768 Link 0 |
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Have a day off will you. Only posts you ever make are to pontificate about how unless you swear blind allegiance you're not a true fan. Any thoughts on the performance yourself? Are you happy with it? For once would you talk about the game rather than scolding those who do? papa_pump (Donegal) - Posts: 71 - 09/05/2022 08:58:13 2415776 Link 0 |
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As you say, Kerry and Mayo, these are the teams we need to be weighing ourselves against. If we played like we did in that first half against either of them, it'd be an incredibly long day. I appreciate the optimistic stance that with time it will come, and I've had that view for years. However I've been telling myself that for years. Bonners first year was a welcome change of pace from the end of Gallagher's tenure, and while we didn't progress in the All Ireland series, there was still reason for hope, and reason to believe we'd take our learnings and apply them. At this point it's frustrating to watch the same performance and trying to convince myself that it'll be different this time. When's the last time we beat a Dublin, Kerry or Mayo? Hell, we beat Tyrone those times, but as soon as they became All-Ireland challengers last year we couldn't beat them either. Until we beat a team on our level or above it in championship, the jury will be out. Objectively speaking I'm happy we're through too, i just can't help but worry about what sort of performance we'll put in against teams with a bit more experience at the top level than Cavan. papa_pump (Donegal) - Posts: 71 - 09/05/2022 10:20:15 2415816 Link 0 |
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Agree fully, Brennan took some outstanding scores yesterday. It's pleasing to see, as he is quite a confidence player. Hopefully yesterday's performance lifts his spirits and he can ride that wave of form into the Ulster final and fingers crossed even further than that
papa_pump (Donegal) - Posts: 71 - 09/05/2022 10:22:01 2415817 Link 0 |