Replying To Sligoman1234:  "Not so sure if they've gone backwards but a bit static for sure this year. League start was very disappointing but rallied when it mattered, will reserve judgement on McEntee until the end of the TC campaign.

The reason I reference minor and u20 is that there's a breed of player being created in the county that no longer fears playing the bigger 3 in Connacht as they have had the better of them in years gone by. It would be good for all counties in Connacht if Leitrim could start to lift their levels too. I know minors won the shield which is good for them but need to be beating one of the other 3 on a regular basis.

As for the other bucks comments about Div4 titles I'd say there's plenty of footballers in Leitrim that'd love to have it. I'd dare say he'd tell a Kerryman they were as bad as Leitrim at present because they haven't an All Ireland since 22. But sure carry on blame NY for not having a game this weekend."

Replying To bláthach:  "We beat ye at minor level this year so steady on a little bit and we were very close to doing so at under 20 also. So come down off your high horse like a good lad. Ye ain't that far ahead. Both of us were division three this year too. Granted we were relegated but don't pretend like ye are miles ahead of us when quite obviously ye are not. It's tiresome. Thanks"

Replying To Sligoman1234:  "Minor was a good result yes and hopefully there'll be more competitive games in future at underage. Stats don't lie though, it must be nearly 15/16 years since Leitrim beat Sligo seniors in a game in either league or championship. How long since a senior final appearance or indeed a provincial win apart from London/Leitrim? In underage ya have to be getting to finals to win them and I don't mean shield ones. When was the last time a Leitrim minor or u20 were in one, that's not a shield which ya get into by default by coming 4th or 5th. It might be perceived to some as kicking someone when you're down but it's not it's merely to show that these are objectives that should be set to demonstrate progress. Losing to teams in moral victories are damn all use when you're losing to them all the time and the same applies to Sligo in that regard.

If Leitrim take this tough opportunity to strongly look at themselves from top to bottom at county and club level they could implement change that'd make them a competitive force within the province which in turn would lift the levels of everyone else as they could no longer be seen as the handy game. Others like yourself seem content to batten down the hatches and defend accepting poor standards."