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Well now the dust has settled on a hectic 24 hours of action for roscommon teams with mixed fortunes.

First up was St. FAITHLEACHS and they'll have a lot of deep thinking over the next few weeks of what if. Didn't play well, ref was harsh on them early in particular and missed chances and still within a kick of the ball. Similar to Pearses when their main men didn't score nobody else stood up. From a spectator point of view how in gods name did a club ground not even used for Westmeath semis or finals get an All Irelamd semi. Out of the six semis on at weekend only the two intermediate ones were not in county grounds.

Up the road to Brefni Park and Pearses and wind had abated but Kilmacud basically won it with the goal as it sent a message to Pearses saying try and play open football and we will cut through you. Again similar to FAITHLEACHS when their main scorers were tied up nobody else stood up. Result never looked like going their way. In fact Pearses will win another county but without more options up front another Connacht title will be elusive in feel. Both Rowcommon clubs have had great long seasons.

Into Hyde on Sunday and how Roscommon's were 6/5 was crazy and was like printing money. Cork are poor and once the toss went in Roscommon's favour the result was never in doubt. The one concern I'd have for Roscommon is without the very bad goal from a Cork goalkeeper point of view we were beginning to struggle. Also 10 wides in 2nd half for Cork could have proved costly also.

It was a nice opening for the new players but a lot sterner tests await. Not sure if any of the Pearses or Faithleachs contingent will be back for this weekend or Cox for that matter. Meath will have to show something or McEntee will be gone. The 3 matches v Meath, Derry and Galway will decide our promotion fate. I hope the folly of having this years u20s on the panel is done now looking at how one of them struggled on Sunday. Let them play with the age group they should.

SmokieRoss (Roscommon) - Posts: 273 - 01/02/2022 20:42:07    2397826

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Unless there is a huge backlash I'd unfortunately expect a big win for Roscommon. Laois in obc wasn't a one off it would appear.
I'll go in hope but nothing more. I think we may be heading for tailteann cup unfortunately."
I'm expecting a big Meath performance. It's not in Meath teams to give up. I'm expecting a really close game and it could go either way.

dave1988 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1057 - 01/02/2022 21:07:58    2397832

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Replying To sourmilk93:  "Speaking to a few around county panel he is well done the line from what is produced at training anyway. I know he scored well for Elphin last few years and adds something been able score frees and 45s but is that enough.
Also a few question marks over commitment and has let himself down on occasions over the years. Carroll i believe was picked ahead of him for Sigerson? Open to correction on that.

I have heard lots about Heneghan lately and lads losing the run of themselves on him but I don't think he's good enough to start for the county. Maybe in time and with a drier sod but I have not seen anything yet from him."
I would also have a similar view on ruane, hearing lots of praise for him here but In all the games I have watched I think he offers very little if anything at all, HB line these days is where a lot of a teams attacking play starts, Richard Hughes gave a few great examples of this on Sunday.... would like to see Cathal Kenny from oran get a chance, an intelligent player and has been a brilliant performer at wing back for his Club for a few years... Im going for a Rossie win on Sunday by 2

Rossie14 (Roscommon) - Posts: 33 - 02/02/2022 10:01:09    2397867

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Fair enough to say Ruane and Heneghan unlikely to keep their starting places.
Please Anthony leave Ben O'C and Adam McD to the u20s. They'll have plenty of time to break through from once that campaign is over.
The worst team to play in the League is one who had a bad outing the previous match as they will be bursting themselves to atone for it.
4 home wins in D2 last Sunday, will any of the 4 be able to do it away from home?

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1419 - 02/02/2022 10:28:42    2397871

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "Fair enough to say Ruane and Heneghan unlikely to keep their starting places.
Please Anthony leave Ben O'C and Adam McD to the u20s. They'll have plenty of time to break through from once that campaign is over.
The worst team to play in the League is one who had a bad outing the previous match as they will be bursting themselves to atone for it.
4 home wins in D2 last Sunday, will any of the 4 be able to do it away from home?"
Nothing to say Heneghan and Ruane wont make it but hope to see more improvement over the next few months.
Deserving our their places on the squad anyway.
I can see Ben O'Carroll starting this weekend instead of Heneghan but agree they should be left to u20s.

sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1145 - 02/02/2022 10:56:12    2397876

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Replying To worple:  "Meath are favourites"
That makes no difference. And if Roscommon were playing any other county in Meath position I'd lump on them. However I will never bet against my own. But honestly I don't think you realize how bad we were on Sunday. Ask any of ur old county men who has been on this forum for long time. This is not me I'm always hugely optimistic when it comes to Meath. Blindingly so at times. But what I seen on Sunday a poor junior b team would beat us.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 02/02/2022 11:08:56    2397879

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Replying To dave1988:  "I'm expecting a big Meath performance. It's not in Meath teams to give up. I'm expecting a really close game and it could go either way."
I hope ur right

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 02/02/2022 11:29:58    2397888

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Replying To Yondu:  "Meath was away to a near full strength Galway last weekend. This week have the home Navan advantage and the Rossies will likely be without the 3 Dalys, D Murray, 2 Murtaghs and C Cox."
Meath are without players also. Mickey Newman has retired and Seamus lavin Meaths first choice corner back has took the year off the panel. Meath are missing 4 midfielders all injured. They are Brian Menton, Ronan Jones, Brian Conlon, Jack Flynn. And Meath are without first choice full back Conor McGill and James McEntee who are both injured. Roscommon are favourites, Roscommon have excellent record of getting promotion from div 2.

Kingkeegan (UK) - Posts: 55 - 02/02/2022 11:31:10    2397889

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Meath lads, did young Mattimoe, son of a Roscommon man ever make it beyond the U21s?

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1419 - 02/02/2022 13:21:11    2397945

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Replying To Kingkeegan:  "Meath are without players also. Mickey Newman has retired and Seamus lavin Meaths first choice corner back has took the year off the panel. Meath are missing 4 midfielders all injured. They are Brian Menton, Ronan Jones, Brian Conlon, Jack Flynn. And Meath are without first choice full back Conor McGill and James McEntee who are both injured. Roscommon are favourites, Roscommon have excellent record of getting promotion from div 2."
Agree. We are very low on important players. I just can't see how we could win.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 02/02/2022 13:44:04    2397951

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Replying To Kingkeegan:  "Meath are without players also. Mickey Newman has retired and Seamus lavin Meaths first choice corner back has took the year off the panel. Meath are missing 4 midfielders all injured. They are Brian Menton, Ronan Jones, Brian Conlon, Jack Flynn. And Meath are without first choice full back Conor McGill and James McEntee who are both injured. Roscommon are favourites, Roscommon have excellent record of getting promotion from div 2."
Every team is without players currently. From the Meath game, we were missing Damien Comer, Johnny Heaney, Sean Fitzgerald, Sean Mulkerrins, Jack Glynn and seeing as you're listing unavailable players, Peter Cooke as well. I might be missing a few as well. 4 of those players are certain starters if available.
Listing lads who have retired is a bit of a stretch. I might as well name Gary O'Donnell in that case.
Mulkerrins is out for the year due an injury he picked up playing Sigerson for NUIG. It looks like Mayo's Tommy Conroy could be in the same boat after last night.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2043 - 02/02/2022 14:17:44    2397961

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "Meath lads, did young Mattimoe, son of a Roscommon man ever make it beyond the U21s?"
Mentons dad is a native of Curraghboy.

sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1145 - 02/02/2022 14:28:48    2397966

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "Every team is without players currently. From the Meath game, we were missing Damien Comer, Johnny Heaney, Sean Fitzgerald, Sean Mulkerrins, Jack Glynn and seeing as you're listing unavailable players, Peter Cooke as well. I might be missing a few as well. 4 of those players are certain starters if available.
Listing lads who have retired is a bit of a stretch. I might as well name Gary O'Donnell in that case.
Mulkerrins is out for the year due an injury he picked up playing Sigerson for NUIG. It looks like Mayo's Tommy Conroy could be in the same boat after last night."
To be fair two rookies in Glynn, Fitzgerald hope to be certain starters than are that. Their replacements from the FBD final was the seasoned/experienced Kieran Molloy and John Daly.

I'd agree listing lads who have retired is a bit of a stretch and I'd include those that opted out in that. We have Shane Killoran, Cathal Compton, Tadgh O'Rourke, Ciarán Lennon whom was was unable to commit and of course the recently retired Cathal Cregg. However is the terms of missing players I'd just list those that should be part of the panel this year.

A disjointed Cork lacking any direction didn't test us at all last Sunday so we still don't know how this new look Roscommon team will react when pushed all the way. If Sunday become a competitive contest the match will likely be decided on the impact off the bench and 10 of our 11 subs last Sunday had never played a NFL game before.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 3757 - 02/02/2022 17:38:11    2398009

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Replying To The_analyser:  "To be fair two rookies in Glynn, Fitzgerald hope to be certain starters than are that. Their replacements from the FBD final was the seasoned/experienced Kieran Molloy and John Daly.

I'd agree listing lads who have retired is a bit of a stretch and I'd include those that opted out in that. We have Shane Killoran, Cathal Compton, Tadgh O'Rourke, Ciarán Lennon whom was was unable to commit and of course the recently retired Cathal Cregg. However is the terms of missing players I'd just list those that should be part of the panel this year.

A disjointed Cork lacking any direction didn't test us at all last Sunday so we still don't know how this new look Roscommon team will react when pushed all the way. If Sunday become a competitive contest the match will likely be decided on the impact off the bench and 10 of our 11 subs last Sunday had never played a NFL game before."
It was the other 4 who are the certain starters if available, Comer, Heaney, Mulkerrin and Cooke. Fitzgerald and Glynn are only young lads but have done well in their limited time so far.
Conroy of Mayo is confirmed as having done his cruciate. It's awful unfortunate.
The importance of having a quality panel can't be overstated.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2043 - 02/02/2022 22:05:56    2398050

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "It was the other 4 who are the certain starters if available, Comer, Heaney, Mulkerrin and Cooke. Fitzgerald and Glynn are only young lads but have done well in their limited time so far.
Conroy of Mayo is confirmed as having done his cruciate. It's awful unfortunate.
The importance of having a quality panel can't be overstated."
Ya it's bad news for the young lad and a tough one for mayo. Hard replace a talent like that. Did he play two games in 48 hours or something?

dave1988 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1057 - 03/02/2022 10:09:56    2398059

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Will there be any changes to the starting 15 Sunday?

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1419 - 03/02/2022 10:15:45    2398060

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "Meath lads, did young Mattimoe, son of a Roscommon man ever make it beyond the U21s?"
Assume you're talking about Seamus Mattimoe, and he was in and out of the senior panel a couple of times and never made a sufficient impact to be there for longer. A great club player but transition to county hasn't been kind to him. Has been tried by both Mick O'Dowd and Andy McEntee. Maybe with a new manager from next year he'll got another shot but probably too late in his career to make the big break through

brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 03/02/2022 12:47:17    2398104

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "Every team is without players currently. From the Meath game, we were missing Damien Comer, Johnny Heaney, Sean Fitzgerald, Sean Mulkerrins, Jack Glynn and seeing as you're listing unavailable players, Peter Cooke as well. I might be missing a few as well. 4 of those players are certain starters if available.
Listing lads who have retired is a bit of a stretch. I might as well name Gary O'Donnell in that case.
Mulkerrins is out for the year due an injury he picked up playing Sigerson for NUIG. It looks like Mayo's Tommy Conroy could be in the same boat after last night."
Exactly. The notion that we were near full strength last Sunday is misleading. You are spot on. At least 3 of the 5 players you have listed in the first part of your thread will start come championship barring injury etc. I keep hearing how other teams are missing this and that. All teams by and large are missing some key personnel. The trick of course is to have depth and while I can't really speak for Meath and the Rossies on that front I do feel we are building a decent squad full of youth notwithstanding the significant losses of Mulkerrins and Cooke.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1946 - 04/02/2022 15:29:48    2398320

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "Will there be any changes to the starting 15 Sunday?"
Wouldn't expect there to be although it's hard to know what they will do with returning lads from both clubs. We seen during the week the effect too many games have this this or year so maybe letting some of the lads take the weekend off and have them return gradually for Clare game in two weeks would be sensible. Hopefully Cox can play some part this weekend as I expect it to be a tougher game and one which we will need more experience. The backs all done well enough to start again Sunday to be fair but a Daly / or two wouldn't go amiss! I did hear that one of them is going travelling, I would assume it's Ronan or Conor, the fella who said it wouldn't be able to tell which one is which! Meath will no doubt bring a lot more then they showed last weekend and by no means will it be an easy game. The bench wasn't needed last weekend but was very inexperienced and I wouldn't want to be relying on it.

Rossie2020 (Roscommon) - Posts: 169 - 04/02/2022 16:41:24    2398329

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Replying To kiloughter:  "Exactly. The notion that we were near full strength last Sunday is misleading. You are spot on. At least 3 of the 5 players you have listed in the first part of your thread will start come championship barring injury etc. I keep hearing how other teams are missing this and that. All teams by and large are missing some key personnel. The trick of course is to have depth and while I can't really speak for Meath and the Rossies on that front I do feel we are building a decent squad full of youth notwithstanding the significant losses of Mulkerrins and Cooke."
Damien Comer, Johnny Heaney, Sean Fitzgerald, Sean Mulkerrins, Jack Glynn, Peter Cooke is the players he named

At least 3 or 4 of those players? Only Comer you can say for certain will be starting if fit come April against Mayo and getting Comer fit is the biggest issue. Galway are working from a strong and settled starting 15 right now fitness wise they seem well ahead of the rest in Div 2.

Meath are currently missing S Lavin, C McGill and B Menton that started in the championship last year.

Roscommon are without C Daly, D Murray, R Daly, N Daly, C Cox, C Murtagh, D Murtagh that are deemed starters.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3347 - 04/02/2022 16:43:49    2398331

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