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Replying To JimB1991:  "That was last year. You beat Dublin last year too if you remember, didn't help yesterday."
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Alwaysencourage (Galway) - Posts: 441 - 19/05/2025 13:28:04    2610957

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Replying To gbay:  "tough loss yesterday but i predicted it..dublin had a massive point to prove and deserved there victory over a very flat galway team..its not the end of the world losing a game by a point to another division 1 team but we'll see now what this galway team and management are mad off with a massive game v derry in 2 weeks..
we all can see the problems is that we are not aggressive enough in the tackle and teams are scoring to easily
against us and at this stage i would consider changing goalie as you cannot concede a goal like the one we did
yesterday..it was way too easy..
for the next day its time for change..
time to bring daly back to 6 for structure and organisation..
move silke back to 4.
kelly to7.
i actually start cooke and bring conroy on with 25 to go.
drop darcy for a more natural scoring wing forward and move mattie to 10..
we also need to start kicking the ball alot more.
this year is not over yeat and one good win could make all the differece.

my team v derry.
1.flaherty.
2.mccrath.
3.mulkerrins.
4.silke.
5.mchugh.
6.daly.
7.kelly.
8.cooke.
9.maher.
10.tierney
11.mcdaid
12.thompson
13.finnerty
14.walsh
15.o conghaile.

introduce comer., conroy., molloy., o flaherty.,tomo, darcy/glynn in the secind half and see what happens.."
What seems to be happening is re shuffling the same players to get the right position for them. Not much trust in the management team outside the core. How many chances does Hernon need to get? Kelly is not a centre back and Daly is too slow for this game to fill in. Cooke was poor when he came on and slows the game down too much. He is not used to the new format. Tomo added Zero (probably more negative) why was O Conghaile not brought on? It is quiet clear that Joyce and Co have their favourites. And I guarantee if Comer or Walshe were fully fit earlier in the season Thompson (our best player) would not be playing now. Not blaming Joyce as it happens to most managers as there are players living off past glories under Joyce and from what I see his new management team are not strong enough to counteract Joyce's obvious Bias. Brian Cody used to have this thing that if a 21- 23 year old was playing better that the established player then he would be player the younger lad to keep the established players on their toes. We have too many players who are just comfortable and know that they are going to start no matter what happens. Realistically Has Liam Silke played well this year? Dylan McHugh has been on and off, Sean Mulherrins has been put everywhere and still has not done well. Darcy played well against a poor Roscommon team who looked like boys against us. Tierney beside frees and the odd catch? i feel sorry for Johnny McGrath as he looks tired. He needs a rest. Then look at the bench, o Flaherty is trialed everywhere. Give him a position Corner back one day, Half forward then what chance has he got for establishing himself. Sweeney (Confidence is shot) and Tomo (really) Sam O Neill (honestly). Was Fitzy not worth a chance last weekend even as a sub? He would have done better that some in the backs. Comer must be seriously injured. Joyce picks the same 26 plus or minus 1 but he has subs that will never be used. Is there anyone else in the 34-36 on the panel. Brian Mannion (Tuams best forward/player), Paddy Egan (Club player of the year), Diarmuid Kilcommons (Annaghdown would win nothing without him) to name but three who have been outstanding for their clubs this year but why arent they brought in to 26. Surely they are better that having subs who are really un-useable. Joyce wont change. The team against Derry will be the following, **** all changes because we no threat from a good number of subs:
Gleeson, Mcgrath, Mulkerrins, Glynn, McHugh, Kelly, Silke, Maher, Conroy, Tierney, Walshe, McDaid, Finnerty, Walshe, Thompson. Cooke will come on for Conroy just after half time, Molloy will come on 5 mins later for Mulkerrins, He will then bring on O Flaherty and last 10 mins give Tomo his few mins along with O Conghaile while the un-useable subs will continue to warm up along the sideline.
While players are comfortable knowing that they will 90% of the time start there will be no improvement. It happened to the hurlers after the all ireland final in 2017 and it is happening now with the football.

LottoPlus (Kilkenny) - Posts: 94 - 19/05/2025 16:30:09    2611050

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Wouldn't normally post here but no harm to give an independent view. As a teenager in the early nineties I grew up hating Roscommon (as Mayo usually beat Galway when I was growing up) so dont really have an anti Galway agenda.

A few simple points
Dubs were well up for this and have sorted out their kickout strategy that failed against Meath. Having been written off, Kilkenny, O Callaghan et al were always going to come back with a big statement.

Galway have had such success at midfield this season, they weren't ready for what Dublin gave them - they will learn from that.

Galway persist in playing an unfit Shane Walsh (or Comer). They would be better served planning without him and brining him on as an impact player.

Dublin did what Mayo should have done - put a man marker on a 35yr old midfielder and take away the 6 points per match he usually brings. Everyone will see that as a tactic from here - Conroy will likely need to be a sub as he is most needed for 2 pointers in the last 20mins.

Galway dont have enough of a kicking game to get through a match when they dont dominate in midfield. Getting John Daly back to centre back and putting Kelly to wing back would fix that.

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1394 - 19/05/2025 17:36:30    2611083

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Replying To LottoPlus:  "What seems to be happening is re shuffling the same players to get the right position for them. Not much trust in the management team outside the core. How many chances does Hernon need to get? Kelly is not a centre back and Daly is too slow for this game to fill in. Cooke was poor when he came on and slows the game down too much. He is not used to the new format. Tomo added Zero (probably more negative) why was O Conghaile not brought on? It is quiet clear that Joyce and Co have their favourites. And I guarantee if Comer or Walshe were fully fit earlier in the season Thompson (our best player) would not be playing now. Not blaming Joyce as it happens to most managers as there are players living off past glories under Joyce and from what I see his new management team are not strong enough to counteract Joyce's obvious Bias. Brian Cody used to have this thing that if a 21- 23 year old was playing better that the established player then he would be player the younger lad to keep the established players on their toes. We have too many players who are just comfortable and know that they are going to start no matter what happens. Realistically Has Liam Silke played well this year? Dylan McHugh has been on and off, Sean Mulherrins has been put everywhere and still has not done well. Darcy played well against a poor Roscommon team who looked like boys against us. Tierney beside frees and the odd catch? i feel sorry for Johnny McGrath as he looks tired. He needs a rest. Then look at the bench, o Flaherty is trialed everywhere. Give him a position Corner back one day, Half forward then what chance has he got for establishing himself. Sweeney (Confidence is shot) and Tomo (really) Sam O Neill (honestly). Was Fitzy not worth a chance last weekend even as a sub? He would have done better that some in the backs. Comer must be seriously injured. Joyce picks the same 26 plus or minus 1 but he has subs that will never be used. Is there anyone else in the 34-36 on the panel. Brian Mannion (Tuams best forward/player), Paddy Egan (Club player of the year), Diarmuid Kilcommons (Annaghdown would win nothing without him) to name but three who have been outstanding for their clubs this year but why arent they brought in to 26. Surely they are better that having subs who are really un-useable. Joyce wont change. The team against Derry will be the following, **** all changes because we no threat from a good number of subs:
Gleeson, Mcgrath, Mulkerrins, Glynn, McHugh, Kelly, Silke, Maher, Conroy, Tierney, Walshe, McDaid, Finnerty, Walshe, Thompson. Cooke will come on for Conroy just after half time, Molloy will come on 5 mins later for Mulkerrins, He will then bring on O Flaherty and last 10 mins give Tomo his few mins along with O Conghaile while the un-useable subs will continue to warm up along the sideline.
While players are comfortable knowing that they will 90% of the time start there will be no improvement. It happened to the hurlers after the all ireland final in 2017 and it is happening now with the football."
I definitely agree it's mostly same players just keep moving them around in league this year Daniel o flaherty prob Galway best player at corner back has not played there once in 4 championship matches Sean Kelly has played midfield wing forward and centre back if management don't know his best position after 5 years I'm afraid it's a sad state he was in top 2-3 full backs in Ireland for 3 years but Galway play anywhere but there , cian Hernon has being put full back centre back wing forward Cillian Mcdaid won all star 3 years ago midfield has not played there in last 2 years for Galway Liam o connaghile gets point at death in Connacht final and what does management do bring on Tommo instead ,, for 5 years the dog in the stree knows Gleason not near good enough he definitely has improved but his kicouts are drive it down the field and hope for the best Joyce is at last chance saloon he needs to be brave and actually put players in best position Kelly full back Mcdaid midfield Flahery in goal no point doing same thing over and over again and expecting things to happen u got make them happen i believe Galway have the players but unfortunately management to stubborn and stuck in there ways and won't change it will cost them and it is costing Galway

Kickitout (Galway) - Posts: 1069 - 19/05/2025 17:51:33    2611088

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Replying To LottoPlus:  "What seems to be happening is re shuffling the same players to get the right position for them. Not much trust in the management team outside the core. How many chances does Hernon need to get? Kelly is not a centre back and Daly is too slow for this game to fill in. Cooke was poor when he came on and slows the game down too much. He is not used to the new format. Tomo added Zero (probably more negative) why was O Conghaile not brought on? It is quiet clear that Joyce and Co have their favourites. And I guarantee if Comer or Walshe were fully fit earlier in the season Thompson (our best player) would not be playing now. Not blaming Joyce as it happens to most managers as there are players living off past glories under Joyce and from what I see his new management team are not strong enough to counteract Joyce's obvious Bias. Brian Cody used to have this thing that if a 21- 23 year old was playing better that the established player then he would be player the younger lad to keep the established players on their toes. We have too many players who are just comfortable and know that they are going to start no matter what happens. Realistically Has Liam Silke played well this year? Dylan McHugh has been on and off, Sean Mulherrins has been put everywhere and still has not done well. Darcy played well against a poor Roscommon team who looked like boys against us. Tierney beside frees and the odd catch? i feel sorry for Johnny McGrath as he looks tired. He needs a rest. Then look at the bench, o Flaherty is trialed everywhere. Give him a position Corner back one day, Half forward then what chance has he got for establishing himself. Sweeney (Confidence is shot) and Tomo (really) Sam O Neill (honestly). Was Fitzy not worth a chance last weekend even as a sub? He would have done better that some in the backs. Comer must be seriously injured. Joyce picks the same 26 plus or minus 1 but he has subs that will never be used. Is there anyone else in the 34-36 on the panel. Brian Mannion (Tuams best forward/player), Paddy Egan (Club player of the year), Diarmuid Kilcommons (Annaghdown would win nothing without him) to name but three who have been outstanding for their clubs this year but why arent they brought in to 26. Surely they are better that having subs who are really un-useable. Joyce wont change. The team against Derry will be the following, **** all changes because we no threat from a good number of subs:
Gleeson, Mcgrath, Mulkerrins, Glynn, McHugh, Kelly, Silke, Maher, Conroy, Tierney, Walshe, McDaid, Finnerty, Walshe, Thompson. Cooke will come on for Conroy just after half time, Molloy will come on 5 mins later for Mulkerrins, He will then bring on O Flaherty and last 10 mins give Tomo his few mins along with O Conghaile while the un-useable subs will continue to warm up along the sideline.
While players are comfortable knowing that they will 90% of the time start there will be no improvement. It happened to the hurlers after the all ireland final in 2017 and it is happening now with the football."
There is a prize on the way here for the most nonsense in one post 2025. Liam Silke, Dylan McHugh, Darcy. What are you talking about, they are 3 of the best players in the country. Sam O'Neill is a young player, Cian Hernon is 23.

smallfrank (Galway) - Posts: 510 - 19/05/2025 17:57:49    2611092

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "Wouldn't normally post here but no harm to give an independent view. As a teenager in the early nineties I grew up hating Roscommon (as Mayo usually beat Galway when I was growing up) so dont really have an anti Galway agenda.

A few simple points
Dubs were well up for this and have sorted out their kickout strategy that failed against Meath. Having been written off, Kilkenny, O Callaghan et al were always going to come back with a big statement.

Galway have had such success at midfield this season, they weren't ready for what Dublin gave them - they will learn from that.

Galway persist in playing an unfit Shane Walsh (or Comer). They would be better served planning without him and brining him on as an impact player.

Dublin did what Mayo should have done - put a man marker on a 35yr old midfielder and take away the 6 points per match he usually brings. Everyone will see that as a tactic from here - Conroy will likely need to be a sub as he is most needed for 2 pointers in the last 20mins.

Galway dont have enough of a kicking game to get through a match when they dont dominate in midfield. Getting John Daly back to centre back and putting Kelly to wing back would fix that."
Agree with most of this apart from the kicking game point. We have plenty of lads who can kick pass , it is a tactical decision to hold on to it and not kick whether rightly or wrongly.

100% right on Dublin and the kick out , we need a plan b and plan c as there are other teams who will replicate Dublin, possibly Flaherty for Gleeson as he has possibly more variety in his game.
I still think, although we have slipped back the rankings that we are right up there in this. There will be plenty of shocks in this and we have a very solid team and panel to compete pg.

Kerry nearly got caught by Cork, hammered Clare but so did Down so we don't really know where Kerry are.
Donegal and Armagh both looked good in Ulster final but Donegal nearly got caught by Monaghan and Armagh squeaked by Tyrone (who are another potential contender imo). The past three years will tell you that there is only a kick of a ball between Galway and Armagh so if those two meet later on in knock out games it could go either way.
I think the Meath result was an aberration so Dublin right in the mix also, they won it in 2023 and have 7/8 of that team. Whilst they have lost some serious legends, they still have a very strong 15 when you go through it. Good management team also.
Mayo won't win it but they could with their high intensity on their day knock out one of the higher rated teams.
Hard to know where Derry are, the match against Armagh will tell a lot, hard to fathom how a team with so many good players isn't winning more.
All in all, a great few weeks ahead

Trucker1 (Galway) - Posts: 435 - 19/05/2025 19:06:10    2611114

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Replying To LottoPlus:  "What seems to be happening is re shuffling the same players to get the right position for them. Not much trust in the management team outside the core. How many chances does Hernon need to get? Kelly is not a centre back and Daly is too slow for this game to fill in. Cooke was poor when he came on and slows the game down too much. He is not used to the new format. Tomo added Zero (probably more negative) why was O Conghaile not brought on? It is quiet clear that Joyce and Co have their favourites. And I guarantee if Comer or Walshe were fully fit earlier in the season Thompson (our best player) would not be playing now. Not blaming Joyce as it happens to most managers as there are players living off past glories under Joyce and from what I see his new management team are not strong enough to counteract Joyce's obvious Bias. Brian Cody used to have this thing that if a 21- 23 year old was playing better that the established player then he would be player the younger lad to keep the established players on their toes. We have too many players who are just comfortable and know that they are going to start no matter what happens. Realistically Has Liam Silke played well this year? Dylan McHugh has been on and off, Sean Mulherrins has been put everywhere and still has not done well. Darcy played well against a poor Roscommon team who looked like boys against us. Tierney beside frees and the odd catch? i feel sorry for Johnny McGrath as he looks tired. He needs a rest. Then look at the bench, o Flaherty is trialed everywhere. Give him a position Corner back one day, Half forward then what chance has he got for establishing himself. Sweeney (Confidence is shot) and Tomo (really) Sam O Neill (honestly). Was Fitzy not worth a chance last weekend even as a sub? He would have done better that some in the backs. Comer must be seriously injured. Joyce picks the same 26 plus or minus 1 but he has subs that will never be used. Is there anyone else in the 34-36 on the panel. Brian Mannion (Tuams best forward/player), Paddy Egan (Club player of the year), Diarmuid Kilcommons (Annaghdown would win nothing without him) to name but three who have been outstanding for their clubs this year but why arent they brought in to 26. Surely they are better that having subs who are really un-useable. Joyce wont change. The team against Derry will be the following, **** all changes because we no threat from a good number of subs:
Gleeson, Mcgrath, Mulkerrins, Glynn, McHugh, Kelly, Silke, Maher, Conroy, Tierney, Walshe, McDaid, Finnerty, Walshe, Thompson. Cooke will come on for Conroy just after half time, Molloy will come on 5 mins later for Mulkerrins, He will then bring on O Flaherty and last 10 mins give Tomo his few mins along with O Conghaile while the un-useable subs will continue to warm up along the sideline.
While players are comfortable knowing that they will 90% of the time start there will be no improvement. It happened to the hurlers after the all ireland final in 2017 and it is happening now with the football."
There is some nonsense and contradictions in this post

1 how many chances does hernon need? Saturday was his first proper championship start has he even played 5 championships games including sub appearances. Only other game was NY got a goal.

2. Has Liam silke played well this year? Yes was good v Ros & mayo, poor Saturday

3 mulkerrins was excellent v Dublin last year and shut down an all star in enda smyth.

4. Who are subs he never uses? As far as I can see used entire bench across 3 championships games bar Colm Costello and sub goalie.

5. Who are unusable subs ? Hernon seems to be getting too many chances and an unusable sub.



6. Who are the walshe you are playing 11 and 14

jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1538 - 19/05/2025 20:36:21    2611139

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Where is Katser?

brayballer (Wicklow) - Posts: 103 - 19/05/2025 21:39:51    2611173

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