(Oldest Posts First) - Go To The Latest Post
I don't think the Academy is your problem. You have been very competitive at minor all millennium. Its what happens after that. You have no county player pathway looking in from the outside. Apart from the League game against Tipp how many starts did players 22 or under get? Or even 23 or under? How many starts or minutes off the bench did players who hadn't started before this year get? There's nearly no such thing as a ready made Senior starter in any county these days. Most good Senior starters in the 25-29 age group, peak age so to speak, in any county needed plenty of Senior starts when they were younger before they were considered good. They got better with experience. Not all lads will gwt better with experience I know, but none or very few will get better without any experience.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16285 - 11/06/2025 18:23:48 2616758 Link 1 |
Going off Sundays performance I can't see us beating Tipp. There is few barren years ahead for Galway Hurling. We have had a lot of poor results in U17/U20 of late but you'd hope that the more games these youngsters are getting will only improve them for the future. The old system of getting to AI Quarter/Semi finals was false success for our lads at underage.
Green&Gold2013 (Galway) - Posts: 30 - 11/06/2025 18:32:47 2616760 Link 0 |
I don't think the Academy is your problem. You have been very competitive at minor all millennium. Its what happens after that. You have no county player pathway looking in from the outside. Apart from the League game against Tipp how many starts did players 22 or under get? Or even 23 or under? How many starts or minutes off the bench did players who hadn't started before this year get? There's nearly no such thing as a ready made Senior starter in any county these days. Most good Senior starters in the 25-29 age group, peak age so to speak, in any county needed plenty of Senior starts when they were younger before they were considered good. They got better with experience. Not all lads will get better with experience I know, but none or very few will get better without any experience.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16285 - 11/06/2025 18:37:19 2616761 Link 0 |
A mighty effort indeed. A different squad actually. It'll take Cork, Limerick or KK to beat Tipp this year, and that might even be too much for a KK. Cork and Limerick the likely final anyway of this remarkably predictable hurling championship so far.
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4217 - 11/06/2025 19:00:36 2616765 Link 0 |
I agree Tipp should be hot favorites but again you have be in it to win it. Clare, Waterford, etc are gone home yet we are still alive to fight another day. We have to clamp down on the SOFT GOALS we allow. No team could survive that. Also be SMARTER with the puck outs.
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2543 - 11/06/2025 19:05:22 2616768 Link 0 |
Yeah in it to win it hmmmm applies to Laois and Kildare too, or maybe they don't have the cards? Galway, great people, great team, I like Galway alot. Alotta people saying Clare were bad champions, did a bad jawb. Waterford too doing a bad jawb in Munster, I think they need to take over Leinster and maybe move in there permanently. Could be the riviera of Leinster....fantastic. Be SMARTER yeah, that always helps. . Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 4217 - 12/06/2025 00:24:45 2616813 Link 0 |
I reckon 4 aged under 23 got some gametime in the league and 5 newcomers older than that who made the panel/got some gametime in league games. Not a lot of minutes really. You might have a point.
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 2031 - 12/06/2025 01:31:15 2616816 Link 0 |
Reading on cork website Dublin Limerick will be a doubleheader with footballers in CP. Galway Tipp will be the Sunday in limerick. With limerick playing the Saturday no man power in Gaelic Grounds to play it Saturday evening. Also in with a chance is both QFs in Cork but with sizeable travel for Galway and Dublin this is next to a non runner CillTormoir (Galway) - Posts: 549 - 12/06/2025 14:56:46 2616960 Link 0 |
You just made my point for me, Academy does not stop at 17 or 20, the goal is to have senior ready players and they are failing and have been for 5+ years. How may 23 YOs are on the Galway team? We are not seeing success at underage either and few players from the academy getting onto a very average and aging Galway senior team. I agree that most hurlers peak in 25-29 which is a short window and by 30 they have lost a step. Dosen't mean they are finished but need to be managed differently. So we need a good supply of 21 YOs getting onto the panel and vying for places. Heres where I see the academy lacking 1) Fielding and retention haven't seen anyone besides CW field a ball and he SLIPS ALOT after collection. 2) Defense: Defense wins games and are the foundation for offense and our defensive strategies are brittle 3) Sport Psychology: We are beaten in some games before we go out on the field 4) Tackling (including dark arts) Limerick are masters of this 5) Game strategy: playing to our strengths if we are small and fast with ball skills play to that, if we are bigger and more physical use that to our advantage. Puck outs are a perfect example of this going wrong. Limerick bringing on Diarmuid Byrnes on with 30 seconds left in extra time to take a penno..brilliant! 6) Frees We need designated free takers(s) for the future, Mannion is a superb player, average free taker and is now 30 years old. Niland brilliant free taker, not much else 7) Fitness, cant turn a workhorse into a racehorse but a workhorse has a place if used correctly. S&C has to be done well its not a matter of everyone picking up weights and doing lifts. Different body shapes, age and positional play need to be taken into account. 8) Diet and Nutrition: You are what you eat 9) DATA look at results and feed it back into the machine to make it better, KPIs, performance measurements, game management, player profiles (ours and oppositions). 10) Dont be afraid to make changes cut staff and recruits if its not working and realign. I can almost 100% guarantee you that Limerick sat down and looked at some of their shot taking in the second half against Cork, their selection was terrible and lost them the game. I would say they also analyzed the "lack of frees" that they could usually count on to get their score tally up, the ref in charge was not "normal" and that normal free allocation was restored when the ref went off injured. I would have a profile on the major refs, what you can get away with and what they typically pull for. None of these will win you a game on their own but a combination of them will give you a chance of at least competing. BostonGuy (Galway) - Posts: 170 - 12/06/2025 15:27:00 2616968 Link 0 |
All of that bar the lack of younger players applies to us too......think most counties do work at most of that stuff already too.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16285 - 12/06/2025 15:43:48 2616977 Link 0 |