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I wonder however Trump, will there be a bit of 'keeping our cards close to our chests' on Saturday night. Both managements will know they have bigger fish to fry and the Championship is starting very early this year. With Shefflin in charge Limerick will see Galway as a huge threat, although Cahill's Waterford are a serious side to be reckoned with too. And indeed any one of six or seven teams could come good. Just thinking out loud
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4342 - 07/02/2022 11:30:40 2398845 Link 1 |
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I don't think the teams will keep their cards close to their vest. Yes there's bigger fish to fry but we are a long way from there. A lot can happen: injures, retirements, a new star player pops up out of nowhere, etc. The two teams are MILES apart in some ways. Limerick are as close to the finished product as you can get. We all know who there starters will be for the most part. No real surprises. Galway on the other hand is anyones guess as far as who makes the team. That's why I'm saying this game is so valuable-to Galway.
Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2135 - 07/02/2022 12:01:39 2398863 Link 0 |
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No your problem is you have too many championships north south and so on,when you see a club result in Tipperary you don't know what's going on,as too him hurling junior A already,you obviously don't know a lot about our championship.
Waveitwide (Galway) - Posts: 137 - 07/02/2022 17:41:54 2399085 Link 1 |
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Please explain why? I'm not precious about my opinions but you'll have to do a bit better than saying it's stupid just because you think it is. What other counties have a 12 team Senior championship with as many clubs as Galway has? Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 842 - 07/02/2022 18:03:37 2399095 Link 1 |
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Fully agree with this. One issue that's also being overlooked in the discussion is the attendance factor, there is bound to be a smaller aggregate attendance if this is carried through. Because for all that the 'Group of 10' referred to players losing interest, it's only logical that if this is actually the case, supporters may lose interest also. We currently have a big championship which will draw a large aggregate crowd due to the sheer number of matches, clearly fewer games will lead to a smaller aggregate attendance. That shortfall in money will have to be recovered from somewhere and the answer is not hitting the diehards who go already harder in the pocket. We shouldn't lose sight of the fact that this move was only floated and carried to facilitate IC teams at the expense of club sides, and carried by votes from counties many of whose champions would struggle in Junior A in Galway. Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 842 - 07/02/2022 18:19:02 2399102 Link 0 |
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Hope springs eternal but all known evidence would suggest that Galway are not going to be a "huge threat" or even just a threat to Limerick this year. If Davy had got the job or Michael Donoghue ye wouldn't be seeing us as a "huge threat" so the appointment of Shefflin has been overhyped. Might turn out to be a very good manager but he would need to be every bit as brilliant as manager as he was a player to raise us to the "huge threat" level this year. There is too much rebuilding and renovating to be done in too short a time. I would say you are right about Limerick's attitude -- ye will play within yourselves -- but I think Shefflin will want his team to have a right "cut" at Limerick to see where we stand, to find out what degree any newcomers played have the intensity needed for the physical challenge. I reckon though he will play fairly close to his likely summer formation for this game. One thing we cannot afford is to get is a tonking from a somewhat less than fully wound up Limerick so I'd say he'll go with mainly an experienced line up with 3 or 4 newcomers starting, with more introduced from the bench.
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1905 - 07/02/2022 19:44:12 2399137 Link 1 |
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"Is it this idea that 'Kilkenny have 12' and we must copy them?" What a dumb question. Who has suggested that Galway should copy Kilkenny? "That's going well for them, we've won a senior All Ireland since they have." An even dumber statement. Over the last 30 years, Galway have won 1 All-Ireland, Kilkenny have won 13. No one in Kilkenny is arguing or worried about the set up of their Championship, why should you be? By the way, Limerick have a 12 team senior Championship, how many All-Irelands have they won since Galway last won one? Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2480 - 07/02/2022 21:11:54 2399172 Link 1 |
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You must be new here, if you've never heard the 'Kilkenny only have 12 club sides in senior' comment/argument. It's got a long white beard at this stage. As for the second one, the 'even dumber statement' hahahaha. The second comment is a statement of fact. What difference does it make what happened over the last 30 years? 5 years ago Limerick hadnt won an All Ireland since 1973. So what? When did i say Kilkenny were arguing or worried about anything? When did I say I was 'worried' about Kilkenny's championship setup? I didn't even criticise it, because I don't care. I'm sure it works for them. I'm not sure why Limerick's senior championship is relevant here either. Nobody mentioned Limerick's club championship on this page until you brought it up. Stool Pigeon (Galway) - Posts: 842 - 08/02/2022 12:15:03 2399284 Link 1 |
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Saturday night travelling down to the All-Ireland champions, the team and management teams first proper test, how will we do? I believe we will take them (but wouldnt be as hopeful come championship) CillTormoir (Galway) - Posts: 488 - 08/02/2022 14:04:00 2399312 Link 1 |
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Cat, at times I don't agree with your posts, but this time I do. Some fellas on here don't really know what they're on about… Try not to be too hard on them. Try to refrain from calling them 'stupid'. I think they don't like it. Like KK, Limerick has a 12-team senior hurling championship (two groups of 6). There's 69-70 GAA clubs in Limerick. How many in Galway? The club standard is quite healthy now in Limerick, with almost no lop-sided scoring in games. Until they reduced the number of teams, you'd often have a few pigeon-shoots on weekends. Tipp reduced their senior hurling teams from 24 to 16, and a further reduction to 12 is being strongly heralded within the county. I suppose in Galway 24 down to 12 would be such a shock to their system that it'd be ruled out immediately. Sure, you can see the uproar those little minnows of clubs in East Galway are causing at present due to reducing to 16. No, let 'em take it down to 16 first. They'll learn two things. First, that they have much better club games now, games worth paying money to watch. And second, they'll learn after a few years (as happens in Tipp) that 3-4 of the teams still ain't up to senior fare. Then they'll come to the obvious conclusion…reduce it to 12. Then they'll be like the Kilkenny's, Tipperary's and Limerick's of the hurling world. Galway hurling could get strong again then. foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1931 - 08/02/2022 16:55:49 2399373 Link 2 |
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I'm was encouraged with that prediction, until I saw your 'prediction' for last Sunday's Offaly game over on the NHL thread. Watch this space indeed!!
Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3460 - 08/02/2022 18:22:52 2399392 Link 1 |
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to be fair pope, i made the prediction before i saw the team announcement, if i had of knew the ff line we had starting. And i based it on offaly not at full tilt v us in walsh cup (took off their best player, i think he had 6 from play before being taken off) and then them running the Dublin team that trounced us to 5 points in said competition. Please forgive me!
CillTormoir (Galway) - Posts: 488 - 09/02/2022 10:36:17 2399469 Link 1 |
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This forum is all things Galway hurling, not KK Tipp or Limerick,so if you are coming from there go on your own page, nobody gives a damn what they do with there championship.There are 84 clubs in Galway by the way.We had 20 senior A teams a few years ago and it was reduced to 12 with the introduction of 12 senior B teams so that meant 8 went down and 4 came up from intermediate.This has worked well so why does it have to be altered just to be politically correct with croke park.It would be more in there line to address the gulf between the top and bottom tier counties in both football and hurling.Limerick have been on the crest of a wave since 2018 so why we have to be compared to them I don't know because they had decade's of trophy less years previous to this.Senior A is competitive and so is senior B and they gave the senior A teams a good rattle in the knock stages, we need to be left alone and run our own championship as it suits us.
Waveitwide (Galway) - Posts: 137 - 09/02/2022 18:13:40 2399575 Link 0 |
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Like Clare people in 1995, so called Limerick fans like the American "youngeen" only believe that hurling started in 2018 and before that in 1973! Sure he will be watching his very own Superbowl this weekend anyway (a sport he knows much more about) - what about those Bengals youngeen?! lol
tommy k (Galway) - Posts: 3365 - 10/02/2022 11:49:01 2399633 Link 0 |
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I'm from limerick and I know only to well hurling didn't start in 2018..the comments about club championship were made on this forum that's why people are talking about it..one of your colleagues asked why limerick havnt more club all Ireland's,a lot harder to win limerick and then having to play munster c/ship rather than straight to an all ireland semi..maybe this is why ye are always more interested in winning at club level and being at one another's throats,it seeps into the county team..take ballyhale relegated to intermediate ,came back up and are now one of the most successful club teams of all times..just because a club has played senior since the year dot doesn't give them a divine right to stay there.. CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2227 - 10/02/2022 12:45:14 2399649 Link 2 |
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That sums it up perfectly. I know for a fact that a lot of Galway and Tipp people for example look down on Intermediate clubs and players and senior clubs treat it as a bit of a joke. I have many friends invlolved in senior clubs in galway. However when you look at what winning an Intermediate cship meant to Tullaroan you'll see the big difference in attitude. Tullaroan have won 20 senior titles. KK have had club teams who have been top senior clubs releagted to junior too. You end up having really strong competitive championships. Look at what the Joe Mac cup done for Laois and I think the same will work fo Offaly eventually. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 10/02/2022 13:52:53 2399657 Link 1 |
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My friend, do you honestly think cutting straight to the final rounds of any competition is an advantage, without any serious opposition and then playing against teams that have had a number of challenging games to learn from, with plenty of time to recover between each game? I don't think I'm the only one who might strongly disagree with this opinion. I certainly think our county teams would laugh in your face if you suggested that to them. festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3097 - 10/02/2022 14:37:23 2399665 Link 0 |
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On the law of averages if you go straight into all ireland semi you will almost certainly win a few all Ireland's..if club championship is reduced,the games become a lot more competitive..if a team wins at juinor ,intermediate they will be promoted and then play senior..someone mentioned that no respect was being shown for Conor whelan because his club would probably not be playing senior hurling..some of our hurlers on our senior panel don't play senior,obvious one being hoty in 2020,gearoid hegarty,playing juinor,hasn't done him much harm.. CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2227 - 10/02/2022 15:01:12 2399672 Link 0 |
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Sometimes it is good to look outside your own county to assess how things are being done in other counties, especially the successful counties--the ones in double digits for AI titles. I mean that it's not unlike Galway to look to the stronger counties for help. In fact, outsiders have always tried to help Galway hurling: Babs Keating (Tipp), John McIntyre (Tipp), Shane O'Neill (Limerick) and now King Henry (Kilkenny), and even Ger Loughnane from Clare, to name but a few of the non-Galwegians who've managed your county team. Indeed, Galway was one of the first ever counties to appoint an 'outsider' manager, when going to the Babs in 1978. And a shrewd move it proved to be, as the groundwork he laid down was an immense help, almost a blueprint, for Cyril Farrell in leading Galway to the "breakthrough" in 1980, the year after the Babs had departed. foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1931 - 10/02/2022 15:33:59 2399677 Link 1 |
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We are not on about looking outside the county to see how's it's done somewhere else,we have no need too.We are very successful at club level in Galway when it comes to producing it at national level.Most Galway supporters want to be left alone as a county to run our own championship.What has an outside county manager got to do with this? If you think babs was the template for Cyril Farrell's success it goes to show what you know about Galway hurling, f all.He was a disaster just like he was in Offaly and was ran out of town.
Waveitwide (Galway) - Posts: 137 - 10/02/2022 16:47:28 2399701 Link 0 |