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Replying To Kew: "It's a screenshot I'm not adding you to our WhatsApp group lol how am I wound up ? So is it PR for Americans? GAA are allowing Leinster rugby to walk all over them and not helping grow interest in Leinster championship. I know Munster rugby relies on Leinster players to make up a team but you just blindly defend rugby on here non stop. Just because Munster rugby is dependent on Leinster doesn't mean they can do as they please and use the GAA." Improving the Leinster Football Championship is up to the counties that aren't competitive, and more importantly the clubs in those counties, and even more specifically what those clubs are doing between u8 and u12. Maybe delegations from those counties should go to counties like Armagh, Tyrone, Kerry, Donegal and Mayo and see what they are doing right from the top down. All 4 wouldn't have bigger playing populations than Kildare, Meath etc. and have been able to compete at the top level for a prolonged period of time at this stage. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15047 - 10/02/2025 09:23:49 2590349 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Improving the Leinster Football Championship is up to the counties that aren't competitive, and more importantly the clubs in those counties, and even more specifically what those clubs are doing between u8 and u12. Maybe delegations from those counties should go to counties like Armagh, Tyrone, Kerry, Donegal and Mayo and see what they are doing right from the top down. All 4 wouldn't have bigger playing populations than Kildare, Meath etc. and have been able to compete at the top level for a prolonged period of time at this stage." 100%. Kildare and Meath have both tradition and population and should be at the top table. Admittedly, large urban areas are a challenge and population movements necessitate new clubs and that is not an easy thing to do. Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1914 - 10/02/2025 09:56:25 2590355 Link
Replying To Claretandblue: "So spending hundreds of millions unnecessarily is a good use of money in your eyes???" Where in my comment did you read that? Can you elaborate? Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1300 - 10/02/2025 10:22:03 2590363 Link
Replying To Claretandblue: "So spending hundreds of millions unnecessarily is a good use of money in your eyes???" Before focusing on the needs of Rugby fans, soccer fans or concert goers (Like Casement was all about), I think the GAA should start focusing on the needs of the good aul GAA fan who bank rolls the show year in year out. They don't need a gold or silver level lounge in Clones or stuff like that, but basics like having a bit more roof cover and better toilet facilities or even a few activity areas outdoor for families etc should be considered. Like low cost stuff" I've included a snippet from my last comment which you quoted (See above), in case you don't get why I am confused by your comment. - We don't need Gold or Silver level lounges. - Basic facilities such as a roof over our heads and decent toilets would suffice and be a big improvement. So no, I am not in favour of wasting €300 - €400 million on one Stadium that doesn't even meet our key needs. Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1300 - 10/02/2025 10:27:42 2590364 Link
Replying To Mayonman: "100%. Kildare and Meath have both tradition and population and should be at the top table. Admittedly, large urban areas are a challenge and population movements necessitate new clubs and that is not an easy thing to do." Kildare 4 Leinster SF titles in 90 years. If that's 'tradition" it's no wonder they're still doing poorly. Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2107 - 10/02/2025 10:32:59 2590365 Link
Replying To Commodore: "Before focusing on the needs of Rugby fans, soccer fans or concert goers (Like Casement was all about), I think the GAA should start focusing on the needs of the good aul GAA fan who bank rolls the show year in year out. They don't need a gold or silver level lounge in Clones or stuff like that, but basics like having a bit more roof cover and better toilet facilities or even a few activity areas outdoor for families etc should be considered. Like low cost stuff" I've included a snippet from my last comment which you quoted (See above), in case you don't get why I am confused by your comment. - We don't need Gold or Silver level lounges. - Basic facilities such as a roof over our heads and decent toilets would suffice and be a big improvement. So no, I am not in favour of wasting €300 - €400 million on one Stadium that doesn't even meet our key needs." I think yer both right. A bit more thought needs to go into spending and return from it. The Gold and Silver lounges bring revenue though, but they'd probably be a waste in any other GAA ground. McHale Park was a ridiculous overspend, will probably never need it's full capacity. Decent toilets are essential but think about where they put them. Still in Croke Park to get to the toilets you have to wade through Qs for shop, food and beer beside the vendors. Just my own thought but at €7:60 for a reheated burger Croke Park don't care about their spectator experience once their ticket is paid for. In other grounds like The Hyde and the Athletic Grounds they have toilets located away from those vendors. Someone probably put a bit of thought into that in those grounds thinking people don't want to be put off going there again. Grassroots GAA is not a high priority for those sitting on Croke Park's Golden Goose. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7815 - 10/02/2025 12:23:34 2590396 Link
Replying To Seanfanbocht: "Kildare 4 Leinster SF titles in 90 years. If that's 'tradition" it's no wonder they're still doing poorly." How many connaught titles would any connaught team have if they had to play Dublin in Croke park every year to win one, I wonder..? Kildare are unbeaten at home to Dublin in league and championship for over forty years, not many counties outside Leinster can claim that.! It's also the very same reason the Leinster championship is so one sided and a waste of time.. cuttothebone (Kildare) - Posts: 166 - 10/02/2025 18:41:52 2590486 Link
Replying To cuttothebone: "How many connaught titles would any connaught team have if they had to play Dublin in Croke park every year to win one, I wonder..? Kildare are unbeaten at home to Dublin in league and championship for over forty years, not many counties outside Leinster can claim that.! It's also the very same reason the Leinster championship is so one sided and a waste of time.." Just curious, in those 40 years how many times have kildare and dublin played championship in Newbridge? Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2182 - 10/02/2025 19:58:58 2590492 Link
Replying To cuttothebone: "How many connaught titles would any connaught team have if they had to play Dublin in Croke park every year to win one, I wonder..? Kildare are unbeaten at home to Dublin in league and championship for over forty years, not many counties outside Leinster can claim that.! It's also the very same reason the Leinster championship is so one sided and a waste of time.." Offaly and Meath were able to win plenty of Leinster titles. Also since 2001 ye didn't need Provincial titles to make any mark in AI. Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2107 - 10/02/2025 20:45:34 2590499 Link
Replying To Bon: "Just curious, in those 40 years how many times have kildare and dublin played championship in Newbridge?" I've been watching Dublin for 50 years and do not recall even one senior championship match in Newbridge v Kildare. Two against Wicklow in 1980s is all. Stand to be corrected of course. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3427 - 10/02/2025 22:13:54 2590509 Link
Replying To Seanfanbocht: "Offaly and Meath were able to win plenty of Leinster titles. Also since 2001 ye didn't need Provincial titles to make any mark in AI." Exactly. Roscommon and Monaghan have well outperformed the likes of Meath and Kildare in both league and championship over the past decade, with far fewer playing resources. Losing to Dublin in Leinster isn't an excuse for spending years in Division 2 or not making a dent in the qualifiers or round robin stages. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2248 - 10/02/2025 22:28:23 2590511 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "I've been watching Dublin for 50 years and do not recall even one senior championship match in Newbridge v Kildare. Two against Wicklow in 1980s is all. Stand to be corrected of course." Can only think of one. Stopped off in Newbridge on a June bank holiday Monday late '80s to watch Dublin beat Kildare by 4 points. Bulk of scoring by B Rock (7-8 pts) and C Duff (1.02 minimum) . Spent the long week end treking in Tipperary and recall watching Ireland beating Hungary (2-0) in a pub in Aherlow on the Sunday after we had climbed Galtee Mór .. result put ROI in a good position to qualify for Italia 90. Curlew66 (Roscommon) - Posts: 587 - 10/02/2025 23:43:48 2590520 Link
Replying To WanPintWin: "Exactly. Roscommon and Monaghan have well outperformed the likes of Meath and Kildare in both league and championship over the past decade, with far fewer playing resources. Losing to Dublin in Leinster isn't an excuse for spending years in Division 2 or not making a dent in the qualifiers or round robin stages." With their population and economic advantages Meath and Kildare should be at worst around the same level as Ros and Monaghan. Not to mention scattered mountainy West Coast Counties like Donegal, Kerry and Mayo. Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2107 - 11/02/2025 11:50:55 2590571 Link
Replying To Curlew66: "Can only think of one. Stopped off in Newbridge on a June bank holiday Monday late '80s to watch Dublin beat Kildare by 4 points. Bulk of scoring by B Rock (7-8 pts) and C Duff (1.02 minimum) . Spent the long week end treking in Tipperary and recall watching Ireland beating Hungary (2-0) in a pub in Aherlow on the Sunday after we had climbed Galtee Mór .. result put ROI in a good position to qualify for Italia 90." I have no memory of that at all! Barney, the missing years ... BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3427 - 11/02/2025 12:28:57 2590577 Link
Replying To Seanfanbocht: "With their population and economic advantages Meath and Kildare should be at worst around the same level as Ros and Monaghan. Not to mention scattered mountainy West Coast Counties like Donegal, Kerry and Mayo." Kerry! I think Flanagan will definitely improve Kildare. Not many Michael Glaveys influences in the county now. It'll take time to bridge a gap to get to a Leinster final. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7815 - 11/02/2025 12:33:25 2590579 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "I've been watching Dublin for 50 years and do not recall even one senior championship match in Newbridge v Kildare. Two against Wicklow in 1980s is all. Stand to be corrected of course." There was a Saturday evening game against louth in 95, which they lost. Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2182 - 11/02/2025 13:11:48 2590587 Link
Replying To Bon: "There was a Saturday evening game against louth in 95, which they lost." Not in 1995. Dublin beat Louth in Navan and only time in living memory Dublin lost to Louth was 1973. Also in Navan. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3427 - 13/02/2025 19:06:58 2590882 Link
Replying To Bon: "There was a Saturday evening game against louth in 95, which they lost." Apologies. I didn't realise you were talking about Kildare. That was big enough shock. They had decent team then. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3427 - 13/02/2025 22:13:07 2590898 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "Apologies. I didn't realise you were talking about Kildare. That was big enough shock. They had decent team then." It was the night kildare had the infamous black collar on the jersey which didn't impress certain people Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2182 - 14/02/2025 13:19:38 2590968 Link
Replying To Bon: "It was the night kildare had the infamous black collar on the jersey which didn't impress certain people" We had Glenn Ryan involved in coaching us for a while. He was Leinster Council coach at time I think. Very sound chap. Have to admit i couldn't abide them apart from that! BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3427 - 14/02/2025 14:12:41 2590990 Link