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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "It has nothing to do with safety…. they couldn't care less… It's simply all about trying to make up the financial drop because of the dramatic fall in attendance figures… How…? Charge those idiots fool enough to still attend for bringing their kids to games… and be rest assured, next season all ticket prices will increase too…. They will probably blame the war in Ukrainian, the storm or Trump getting elected as a reason…. The GAA are getting more like our numpty Government all the time… Just keep fooling the people….!!!"
Hopefully you're just a wind up poster.
If you're serious you need help.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2107 - 01/02/2025 13:05:26    2588755

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Replying To jm25:  "Are they ? if Zagreb were to win by 10 plus goals a win for city may not suffice so Des is 100% right in what he said."
They are. A win put them ahead of Bruges. It also put them ahead of Paris or Stuttgart, depending on the result of their match8 clash. The Zagreb result was irrelevant therefore. City were GUARANTEED qualification with a win.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3994 - 05/02/2025 12:52:53    2589587

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Replying To jm25:  "Are they ? if Zagreb were to win by 10 plus goals a win for city may not suffice so Des is 100% right in what he said."
So Des wasn't right in what he said. Possibly didn't realise Paris and Stuttgart was a match8 clash, but that's no excuse for Des.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3994 - 05/02/2025 12:55:35    2589588

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Replying To Seanfanbocht:  "Hopefully you're just a wind up poster.
If you're serious you need help."
Some people just can't handle the truth

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3544 - 05/02/2025 13:09:21    2589591

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Replying To Kew:  "Why would the world end ? Sports can end though and amateur sports losing crowds and interest can fall away very easily if they are allowing competitors to use their facilities. The GAA can't get casement part built in the second biggest city but rugby has a top of the range one built years ago no problem. It's grand for people like you in Leitrim where you have no competition and the GAA will fund facilitates in areas that won't be able field a team in years to come. No sport bends over for rugby like GAA. Look at the Leinster championship it's dead and now Leinster rugby have taken over croke park. The same rugby fans online complaining about money going to casement park demanding it don't go ahead will be in croke park watching leinster."
I disagree with you on the root cause of crowds falling away or other sports taking people away from the GAA, the real root cause is as follows
1. **** poor facilities at most grounds in terms of toilets, roofing, seating and general conditions.
2. Rising ticket prices to attend games in grounds that mostly haven't been upgraded in over 30 years.
3. Priority is never given to the ordinary GAA fans who ultimately provide 90% of its funding.

Neglect the ordinary fan and those fans will eventually drop off.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1300 - 05/02/2025 13:31:46    2589597

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Replying To Commodore:  "I disagree with you on the root cause of crowds falling away or other sports taking people away from the GAA, the real root cause is as follows
1. **** poor facilities at most grounds in terms of toilets, roofing, seating and general conditions.
2. Rising ticket prices to attend games in grounds that mostly haven't been upgraded in over 30 years.
3. Priority is never given to the ordinary GAA fans who ultimately provide 90% of its funding.

Neglect the ordinary fan and those fans will eventually drop off."
I don't think the average GAA fan is too concerned about the state of ground facilities. Most facilities are perfectly adequate. I think any perceived falloff in interest/gates might be more of a reaction against the GAAs relatively newfound concentration on shaking down the fanbase for more cash revenues. Higher ticket prices, charging younger fans, more games, nonstop schedule of games in county and club, more streaming charges/revenue, and all very belt and braces with online cash payments etc'. Could all be a bit of a turnoff, for certain age brackets of fans.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3994 - 05/02/2025 15:40:21    2589618

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "I don't think the average GAA fan is too concerned about the state of ground facilities. Most facilities are perfectly adequate. I think any perceived falloff in interest/gates might be more of a reaction against the GAAs relatively newfound concentration on shaking down the fanbase for more cash revenues. Higher ticket prices, charging younger fans, more games, nonstop schedule of games in county and club, more streaming charges/revenue, and all very belt and braces with online cash payments etc'. Could all be a bit of a turnoff, for certain age brackets of fans."
Whay do you define as perfectly adequate though.
By any modern standard most gaa stadiums are nowehrre near adequate.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3731 - 05/02/2025 17:27:23    2589640

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "I don't think the average GAA fan is too concerned about the state of ground facilities. Most facilities are perfectly adequate. I think any perceived falloff in interest/gates might be more of a reaction against the GAAs relatively newfound concentration on shaking down the fanbase for more cash revenues. Higher ticket prices, charging younger fans, more games, nonstop schedule of games in county and club, more streaming charges/revenue, and all very belt and braces with online cash payments etc'. Could all be a bit of a turnoff, for certain age brackets of fans."
And you forgot about the pure garbage that was on show that would surely turn anyone of attending games…. Funny how all the things above had no impact on Hurling attendances in general… I wonder why…! The fare on offer maybe… ? Funny how the FRC concentrated solely on football….!!!!

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3544 - 05/02/2025 17:35:21    2589642

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "And you forgot about the pure garbage that was on show that would surely turn anyone of attending games…. Funny how all the things above had no impact on Hurling attendances in general… I wonder why…! The fare on offer maybe… ? Funny how the FRC concentrated solely on football….!!!!"
"Funny" how the FRC concentrated solely on football??????

You do realise that FRC stands for Football Review Committee???

It would be even "funnier" if they'd decided to branch out and propose changes for hurling too, despite how they had no remit to do so.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2734 - 05/02/2025 20:25:20    2589670

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Replying To Pikeman96:  ""Funny" how the FRC concentrated solely on football??????

You do realise that FRC stands for Football Review Committee???

It would be even "funnier" if they'd decided to branch out and propose changes for hurling too, despite how they had no remit to do so."
The point I was making that most seem to want to ignore is that the FRC was set up because of the dramatic decline in football attendance figures… and the fact that increasing prices , extra games and all sorts of excuses being made it's the simple fact that the game had turned into pure muck that people were staying away… but the delusional don't want to admit that…. Hurling had no such problems attendance wise… I wonder why…?

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3544 - 05/02/2025 20:36:16    2589674

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "I don't think the average GAA fan is too concerned about the state of ground facilities. Most facilities are perfectly adequate. I think any perceived falloff in interest/gates might be more of a reaction against the GAAs relatively newfound concentration on shaking down the fanbase for more cash revenues. Higher ticket prices, charging younger fans, more games, nonstop schedule of games in county and club, more streaming charges/revenue, and all very belt and braces with online cash payments etc'. Could all be a bit of a turnoff, for certain age brackets of fans."
I disagree, however the GAA top brass also doesn't think the average GAA fan is too concerned about the average ground facilities either, taking for granted the people who make the Association. Outside of a couple of modern GAA Stadiums, the vast majority are sub-standard when compared to Soccer and Rugby Stadiums across Britain and the EU, particularly in Ulster.

- Most GAA grounds have 25% of the crowd or less under roof cover.
- Toilet facilities for any sell out or big crowd game is a nightmare.

Before focusing on the needs of Rugby fans, soccer fans or concert goers (Like Casement was all about), I think the GAA should start focusing on the needs of the good aul GAA fan who bank rolls the show year in year out. They don't need a gold or silver level lounge in Clones or stuff like that, but basics like having a bit more roof cover and better toilet facilities or even a few activity areas outdoor for families etc should be considered. Like low cost stuff

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1300 - 07/02/2025 12:13:42    2589872

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Antrim being told by the Ulster Council that they cant play home matches in Corrigan Park because it doesnt meet the required Health & Safety standard.

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4648 - 07/02/2025 16:04:01    2589917

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Replying To bad.monkey:  "Antrim being told by the Ulster Council that they cant play home matches in Corrigan Park because it doesnt meet the required Health & Safety standard."
Not being smart but why did they close Casement Park before knowing when building was going to commence?

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1180 - 07/02/2025 16:37:33    2589924

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Replying To Square_B:  "Not being smart but why did they close Casement Park before knowing when building was going to commence?"
They closed it because it's not easy playing in a building site. Antrim were promised a stadium and powers that be stopped it. Fair play to Antrim, it's CorrIvan Park or nowhere.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2258 - 07/02/2025 17:09:03    2589928

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Replying To bad.monkey:  "Antrim being told by the Ulster Council that they cant play home matches in Corrigan Park because it doesnt meet the required Health & Safety standard."
Translates into "it doesn't hold enough for us to maximise gate receipts from this fixture."

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 15047 - 07/02/2025 17:24:47    2589931

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Replying To bad.monkey:  "Antrim being told by the Ulster Council that they cant play home matches in Corrigan Park because it doesnt meet the required Health & Safety standard."
Farcical.

After them bending over backwards hoping to get money from Brits to host soccer in a pitch they let go to wrack and ruin.

Where are Antrim supposed to play?

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3427 - 07/02/2025 17:45:00    2589933

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Replying To Saynothing:  "They closed it because it's not easy playing in a building site. Antrim were promised a stadium and powers that be stopped it. Fair play to Antrim, it's CorrIvan Park or nowhere."
Casement wasn't a building site when they stopped playing games in it....

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1180 - 07/02/2025 19:00:37    2589942

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Replying To Square_B:  "Casement wasn't a building site when they stopped playing games in it...."
What did you want them to do? Play and do building work together.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2258 - 07/02/2025 20:43:32    2589948

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If it is a home draw then they ought to be allowed play in Corrigan. Armagh can hardly insist on anywhere else and there have been similar situations with season and county ticket holders in other counties with small grounds and likely over capacity.

Antrim not going to beat them anyway,

Does not get away from fact that they sacrificed a good county ground allowed to become a derelict site on the political promise of money from Brits and a soccer tournament. A bit like all the other things promised by a certain outfit ...

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3427 - 08/02/2025 09:50:08    2589979

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "If it is a home draw then they ought to be allowed play in Corrigan. Armagh can hardly insist on anywhere else and there have been similar situations with season and county ticket holders in other counties with small grounds and likely over capacity.

Antrim not going to beat them anyway,

Does not get away from fact that they sacrificed a good county ground allowed to become a derelict site on the political promise of money from Brits and a soccer tournament. A bit like all the other things promised by a certain outfit ..."
The Ground was derelict long before the Euro soccer thing was mooted.
The Stadium should have been kept in use till the day before the bulldozers moved in.

Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2107 - 08/02/2025 11:36:52    2589996

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