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The first thing that struck me was we miss the goalie being allowed to go over the half way line as an extra forward Centralmeath (Meath) - Posts: 7 - 16/03/2025 17:15:22 2596749 Link
Replying To Centralmeath: "The first thing that struck me was we miss the goalie being allowed to go over the half way line as an extra forward" Keeper is allowed up the pitch. Like most things today Management missed their match ups. Hogan obviously told to stay back Royalio11 (Meath) - Posts: 781 - 16/03/2025 18:33:29 2596770 Link
Looks like Meath can still get promoted if they beat Louth and either Roscommon or Cavan lose Ashrules (Dublin) - Posts: 565 - 16/03/2025 18:53:13 2596778 Link
Replying To Ashrules: "Looks like Meath can still get promoted if they beat Louth and either Roscommon or Cavan lose" Methinks once Monaghan Roscommon and Meath win and Cavan lose then Meath will be promoted as Meath and the rossies will be tied on 10 points and Meath get tru on head to head. Should Monaghan lose we be out on score difference Should Cavan win then rossies will get 2nd spot in a tree way tie. Once Meath win and don't end up in 3 way tie we'll go up glenny (Meath) - Posts: 1119 - 16/03/2025 20:03:44 2596792 Link
Replying To glenny: "Methinks once Monaghan Roscommon and Meath win and Cavan lose then Meath will be promoted as Meath and the rossies will be tied on 10 points and Meath get tru on head to head. Should Monaghan lose we be out on score difference Should Cavan win then rossies will get 2nd spot in a tree way tie. Once Meath win and don't end up in 3 way tie we'll go up" not ready to go up, 1 more year in div 2 and hopefully continue improving Harnan6 (Meath) - Posts: 38 - 16/03/2025 21:01:42 2596802 Link
I am not sure we would be a team ready for promotion based on last couple of weeks and I think we have learned that perhaps our squad is quite thin and beyond our best 10-12 players there is huge improvement required in the squad. Jones and Costello are obviously huge losses and replacements not at same standard. I agree that a good performance and win in last round would be good but not overly concerned about promotion. We simply aren't equipped yet for div. 1. On another note, we will have to be at our best from the get go in the Leinster championship. While Carlow are decent we will have too much for them but Offaly will be waiting the following week and they are an opposition that cannot be underestimated. We have to be ready and hopefully all our best players will be too as the last couple of weeks have shown we are quite average without them. winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 619 - 16/03/2025 21:19:35 2596806 Link
A win against Louth on Sunday would leave us on 10 points and that would be a great first league campaign for RB and team. A loss and eight points would still be a decent start. But you'd worry then about belief levels going into Leinster coming off two tough losses. Agree that we're not ready for Div 1. Any team to do well there in recent times has breezed though Div 2. And team that sneaks up has quickly gone back down. But would still take promotion and the potential benefits of that level of competition. Even if it came with big risk of confidence being shattered. MeathAbroad (Meath) - Posts: 145 - 16/03/2025 22:10:05 2596816 Link
Replying To winatallcost: "I am not sure we would be a team ready for promotion based on last couple of weeks and I think we have learned that perhaps our squad is quite thin and beyond our best 10-12 players there is huge improvement required in the squad. Jones and Costello are obviously huge losses and replacements not at same standard. I agree that a good performance and win in last round would be good but not overly concerned about promotion. We simply aren't equipped yet for div. 1. On another note, we will have to be at our best from the get go in the Leinster championship. While Carlow are decent we will have too much for them but Offaly will be waiting the following week and they are an opposition that cannot be underestimated. We have to be ready and hopefully all our best players will be too as the last couple of weeks have shown we are quite average without them." Agreed we are not at div 1 level yet no argument . We have certainly improved from last year no argument there either. .injuries to Jones and Costello in particular ..are a setback clearly. .Continuous improvement is the name of the game for us with the new management, and yes we are on target still on that score. nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1273 - 16/03/2025 22:37:06 2596819 Link
If meath win are they promoted even if Monaghan, Rossies ans Cavan also win as Monaghan remain top and Meath go 2nd based on head to head against Ros n Cavan Royalred (Meath) - Posts: 3 - 16/03/2025 23:31:23 2596825 Link
Monaghan made us look very average at times today like Westmeath the last day when they ran at us we were opened up a lot of score today got very easy . We were cleaned again at midfield especially in the first half and I'm not sure Hogan's kick outs helps that . We don't seem to get into the 2 point shooting zone as much as other teams but that will come in time . We still had our chances in the second half if we had taken them all it could have got very close . We are a long way off a Div 1 team on today's performance but I think Brennan will get them there in time . mmc (Meath) - Posts: 292 - 17/03/2025 00:48:10 2596837 Link
Not here to gloat and have huge respect for Meath but you just can't go missing for 20 minutes and expect to compete at this level. Do that against Dublin in the semi final and it's back to a 20 point defeat. At one stage it looked like Monaghan had 20 men on the field. Meath lads were waiting for someone else to do their job. I watched them first hand win the tailtean cup and there is a good team there, but you just can't switch off no matter what. Remember this, Monaghan would not fear anyone in Clones Leinster football needs Meath and Offaly back, best of luck for the rest of the campaign mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 1063 - 17/03/2025 01:02:28 2596838 Link
Replying To Centralmeath: "The first thing that struck me was we miss the goalie being allowed to go over the half way line as an extra forward" Didn't affect our Rory ! Shelbourne1 (Monaghan) - Posts: 398 - 17/03/2025 01:36:18 2596842 Link
Really infectious seeing the connection between the Monaghan fans and players yesterday after the match. Disappointing that our lads are being wrapped in cotton wool. No media presence! A media ban in fact! Let's role out Seamus Lavin - he won't give anything away! What's to gain from that? We're beyond that surely. So far this morning I've seen interviews from 6 Monaghan players… I only recall one Meath player being interviewed after the Westmeath match. My kids want to connect with the players they're supporting. No team announcement until the morning of the match with no subs listed. You're hardly going to fool a savvy Intercounty set up like Monaghan. I saw somebody with a few Keegan Cups in his back pocket giving some words of advice to the Monaghan bench during the match! For all the efforts to keep everything under wraps - they knew stuff they shouldn't! It's 2025 lads… let the players of the leash ! GenderNeutral (Meath) - Posts: 121 - 17/03/2025 08:25:19 2596849 Link
Replying To Royalred: "If meath win are they promoted even if Monaghan, Rossies ans Cavan also win as Monaghan remain top and Meath go 2nd based on head to head against Ros n Cavan" No we'd either need a big points difference swing (unlikely) or Roscommon or Cavan to lose or draw one of their matches. In a three-way tie we lose out on points difference. It only goes to head to head in a two way tie. MeathAbroad (Meath) - Posts: 145 - 17/03/2025 09:58:38 2596861 Link
Replying To mhunicean_abu: "Not here to gloat and have huge respect for Meath but you just can't go missing for 20 minutes and expect to compete at this level. Do that against Dublin in the semi final and it's back to a 20 point defeat. At one stage it looked like Monaghan had 20 men on the field. Meath lads were waiting for someone else to do their job. I watched them first hand win the tailtean cup and there is a good team there, but you just can't switch off no matter what. Remember this, Monaghan would not fear anyone in Clones Leinster football needs Meath and Offaly back, best of luck for the rest of the campaign" Spot on. Alot of pointing at other lads and zonal positioning yesterday and a monaghan lad would just come on from nowhere and jump on the ball. Meath couldn't match their intensity at all and they won, I'd say, 90 % of the breaking ball because of it . That number 10 was the best player ove seen in PT for a long time too. Monaghan will take a few scalps this year. Meath not there yet but definitely progression this year southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 961 - 17/03/2025 10:42:28 2596869 Link
Replying To Shelbourne1: "Didn't affect our Rory !" Robbie Brennan comparing this loss to be bit like the cork game is way off the mark. The Cork game we lost because of our dreadful shooting, a fair few of the reasons for the defeat against Monaghan were due to poor decisions & poor tactics on the sideline. We had no tactics of defending against the wind against a team who have players who can kick 2 pointers wind assisted with ease. It is more important in that situation to defend against 2 pointers than 1 pointers which is how we set up and give Monaghan kickers all the space they wanted on the edge of the arc. I thought with the late inclusion of Cian Mc Bride starting at full forward, it meant the ball would be kicked into him, for him to win and lay off or maybe draw frees, instead just one ball was played into him the whole 1st half when he was fouled and should have got a penalty. (If you play the man and not the ball it is a foul). Although we were been cleaned out at midfield in that first half he was left on the edge of the square and was only brought into midfield a few minutes before half time where he knocked down a kick out to one of our own players. Then they took him off at half time when it was with the wind a big man on the edge of the square could cause serious damage. Ruairi Kinsella was brought on way too late, not ony is he able to kick two pointers wind assisted but for winning breaking ball (which we were dreadful at yesterday) and turnovers, there is no one as good with Sean Coffey injured. It is a game that hopefully the management will take a lot of lessons from, a game they started well but unlike the Monaghan sideline who made a substitution which had a massive impact on the game, our decision making was poor. That game for me is evidence that, if we are to improve we need to be playing Division 1 teams regularly because playing teams at that level will expose the areas we need to improve. So hopefully we will beat Louth next Sunday and get promoted. For long suffering Meath fans it is great to see the improvement this year under Robbie. It's a work in progress and we need to be patient but it doesn't mean we can't be critical. madmeath (Meath) - Posts: 91 - 17/03/2025 12:09:45 2596883 Link
Replying To mmc: "Monaghan made us look very average at times today like Westmeath the last day when they ran at us we were opened up a lot of score today got very easy . We were cleaned again at midfield especially in the first half and I'm not sure Hogan's kick outs helps that . We don't seem to get into the 2 point shooting zone as much as other teams but that will come in time . We still had our chances in the second half if we had taken them all it could have got very close . We are a long way off a Div 1 team on today's performance but I think Brennan will get them there in time ." I think out half backline has been a big problem last two games with teams winning breaks, breaking the line and setting up shooting opportunities. Coffee was a key man on breaks and while Caulfield is a willing running out of defence, his decision making on the ball and positional play are not perfect. Really don't know who is best candidate for other position in half backline as not many others have impressed. Keoghan probably needed in both defensive lines but is best where he is for now. Another thing is that defensively we stood way too deep when in reality all the threat is at 50 yard line. Remember a goal is only worth 3 points and they are hard to get with keeper there etc. The real threat was the 2 pointer option where Monaghan got way too many under pretty much no pressure. winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 619 - 17/03/2025 12:38:28 2596890 Link
Think we been a bit hard on ourselves lads. Need to take positives from the campaign, we have played well and again, won games we would have lost the last number of years. The injuries sustained to Coffey and Jones together have really affected our style of play, they really did play well together and linked up well in games, also probably our best player out injured Costello ? To be fair our record against ulster teams is extremely poor so to be beaten came as no real surprise to me. I think the manner in which we were bet is disappointing but I still think there is more to be positive than negative. I totally agree with the point made regarding the keeper new rule, definitely affected us and RB and backroom team may revisit this area. Hogan had no impact on the game at all yesterday unlike other games where he really got involved. Back to the drawing board in this area. thelutch (Meath) - Posts: 1086 - 17/03/2025 16:07:09 2596913 Link
A setback and a tough day for the team with a lot to learn from. We both struggled with Monaghan's runners and their long distance shooters as well as struggling with Beggan coming up to play as the QB even without the 12v11. The loss of Coffey and Especially Ronan Jones has been huge as we have been cleaned out on kickouts the last 2 games. Despite that we still did put up 1-20, it was just a 15 minute period where we couldn't get out and we didn't defend well and the game got away from us completely so we'll (and most times) will have to learn how to stop momentum under the new rules. Still a very real chance of promotion and this league has still been far more positive than the last 3 years in the league LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1562 - 18/03/2025 10:29:38 2596988 Link
While progress have been good under Robbie Brennan, Sunday was disappointing and I thought management got it so wrong at times. Starting Cian McBride at full forward and not using him once was baffling, I don't know what the idea was. We were also slow to make changes when we should have, the game just got away very fast. We stood of them and let them ping over 2 pointers with the aid of a strong wind, and we let them do it over and over again. On the contrary they completely pressed out on us around the arc and gave our shooters not space. If they wanted to score, they had to beat their man which we couldn't do. They knew we needed 2 pointers in the 2nd half and they just pressed out and didn't let us. Kickout strategy was poor, we just kept doing the same thing over and over again despite been wiped out. At some point you need to try something different. Rory Beggan was able to find a free man on more that a couple of occasions. The concept of breaking ball seemed to be a foreign thing too, Monaghan anticipated it and we didn't. Defensively very poor, when teams run at us we can't stop it. Cork did it, Westmeath did it and now Monaghan did it. Promotion is still on the cards, but we're not ready for division 1 and wouldn't win a game. Monaghan are a good team, but they're also a good bit behind the standard of division 1 too - and we never laid a glove on them. All in all a good league campaign and lots to build on, but I think Sunday was the reality check we all needed. A few people probably were getting a bit carried away with how well things were going. hyperache (Meath) - Posts: 267 - 18/03/2025 11:39:38 2597010 Link