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Replying To winatallcost:  "Jones was a huge loss but it was more on breaking ball that we lost out at midfield. Wouldn't say it was purely Flynn and Menton that struggled while not at their best they still had their moments. Also referee blew for fouls when each looked like they marked cleanly. Flynn kicked a few wide and lost a ball in defence but still did alot of good at times. He will be a hugely influential figure going forward and will learn from yesterday. I am more concerned with the breaking ball and half backline where I'm not sure if guys came in as replacements from previous day did themselves justice. I am also concerned with panel depth when a few of main guys are out injured. It must be said that Meath looked flat and lethargic and was possibly the case of the load catching up with some guys, mentally just as much as physically."
Agree with the lack of depth when lads are out injured. It's a pity because it feels as if there are more out there in Meath who could be doing a job off the bench. Obvs jack o Connor traveling is a huge loss for the panel. But I'd love to see Scully be given a chance off the bench soon. Kinsella is hopefully back soon. Moriarty not being apart of the panel is crazy to me.

Big fan of rafferty, improving every game.

Royal.1 (Meath) - Posts: 31 - 03/03/2025 13:59:08    2594437

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A heart stopping game full of negatives but ultimately ending up with big positives. We really didn't play well for a lot of it and found it hard to get to the same intensity as the Roscommon game. Allowed Westmeath dictate the first quarter when we had the wind and really struggled on the breaking ball for most of the game. But we reacted really well to their goal going in and we played our best football in the last 10 minutes. Worked some very good teams scores. Didn't hear the buzzer go but the ref had been extremely harsh with some terrible steps calls and lads wrestling out at midfield when both teams were at it. A huge positive that we found a way and we played our best when the game was in the melting pot. Will have to be better against Monaghan if we're going to win but I think we will be better. Depth is being tested, could really do with Costello and Kinsella back even if they only have a bench cameo in them. But we have a home game which is essentially a straight shootout for promotion and Monaghan are definitely beatable which is an enormous improvement from the past 3 years performances in the league

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1548 - 03/03/2025 14:08:30    2594439

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Extremely lucky to come away from that match with anything nevermind a win. To be fair Westmeath were kocking on the door on all their previous matches and were at home in a win at all cost match for them so it was not going to be easy.
But they played us off the park for most parts and knew how to set up against our KO and also defensively for most parts especially in teh first half!!
So a bit of a worry that teams will know how to set up against us but Ive been impressed with RB and team so they will be well able to adapt to that!
I thought we looked a bit tired also so as some were saying the depth is not there. Menton struggled with the pace i though today but will only get fitter.
But all that said it was a long time I witnessed Meath clutching victory from the jaws of defeat so not only has the new management brought in proper system and coaching but we are now getting a bit of belief and confidence back in the team and in my opinion the question of "have we good enough players" is being answered!
ive always said that a good management team doesn't need years at top inter-county level!

JonnieG (Meath) - Posts: 250 - 03/03/2025 16:56:34    2594504

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Replying To Royal.1:  "Beaten well yesterday in midfield, missed Jones and Coffey under breaking ball. Flynn can have moments of brilliance at times but the mistakes yesterday should have had him hooked off I think he's lucky gray and McBride aren't 100%."
Conor Gray dominated in the last leinster development league game last week. I'd love to see him back in midfield, I think he would win more kickouts than Flynn or Menton. Flynn or menton could definitely play that wing forward role that was up for sale on Sunday. Heard rumours Cathal Hickey is coming back into the squad, would be great to have him back. Depth has suddenly become a big issue.

Sheridan2010louth (Meath) - Posts: 209 - 03/03/2025 18:08:28    2594532

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That was unbelievable. The amount of meath supporters out on the pitch after the game really shows the hard work of the players and right management because we are all getting behind the team. I thought Conor Duke was excellent as well as Sean Rafferty with 2 hard hitting challenges, and them two will only get better as we go on. Big game agaisnt Monaghan, of course we have injuries but i think we can give it a good go. Hon The Royals

Points76 (Meath) - Posts: 23 - 03/03/2025 18:56:22    2594543

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For the first time in years we finally seem to have a manager who has all the best players in the county barring maybe two (Cathal Hickey and Conor McGill) in the camp and actually playing well. The team the last day was a very strong starting line up and when you consider that we have Jones, McGowan, Kinsella, Coffey, Costello to name but a few of the lads who have to come back from injury there is great reason for optimism. Yes a huge amount of luck involved in the manner of the win last weekend but 4 wins on the spin, big scores being put up and never looking like folding when the pressure comes on. I still think we are a bit behind Dublin in Leinster but would not be at all surprised if on the right day we managed to spring a surprise. Overall for a change we're now looking at a game against a Northern team (normally a guaranteed loss in the past) where I would almost have us as slight faves which is probably the biggest indication of the strides made this year.

ratlag (Meath) - Posts: 585 - 04/03/2025 09:02:43    2594611

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Replying To Sheridan2010louth:  "Conor Gray dominated in the last leinster development league game last week. I'd love to see him back in midfield, I think he would win more kickouts than Flynn or Menton. Flynn or menton could definitely play that wing forward role that was up for sale on Sunday. Heard rumours Cathal Hickey is coming back into the squad, would be great to have him back. Depth has suddenly become a big issue."
Were you at the development game ? Because I've heard something contrasting reports to yours regarding Grays performance on the night so I'd be interested to hear yours if you watched the match.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1049 - 04/03/2025 10:46:27    2594632

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Heard through someone that was there, went to all of his sigerson games bar one, he started off slow but by the last game I saw he was dominating midfield. I can understand why mgmt would be cautious with him. He had a nightmare 2024 with illness/injuries. He didn't look himself in club championships despite winning it. We were cleaned out in midfield against Westmeath. Dont think its a mad suggestion. Your the same poster who thought i was crazy for wanting Eoghan Frayne to start ahead of Aaron Lynch and James mcentee in tailteann Cup.

Sheridan2010louth (Meath) - Posts: 209 - 04/03/2025 12:55:41    2594663

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Replying To Sheridan2010louth:  "Heard through someone that was there, went to all of his sigerson games bar one, he started off slow but by the last game I saw he was dominating midfield. I can understand why mgmt would be cautious with him. He had a nightmare 2024 with illness/injuries. He didn't look himself in club championships despite winning it. We were cleaned out in midfield against Westmeath. Dont think its a mad suggestion. Your the same poster who thought i was crazy for wanting Eoghan Frayne to start ahead of Aaron Lynch and James mcentee in tailteann Cup."
Who said it was a mad suggestion ? I'm just asking were you at the game because I had heard from 2 people who were that he was average at best and yet you said he dominated the game so considering there seems to be 2 very different opinions on his performance I would say it's a fair question to ask were you there.

Is that the Tailteann cup we won with both Aaron Lynch and James McEntee starting all the games and scoring heavily ??? That's a great argument.

In my opinion in 2023 Frayne wasn't ready because he was a young lad only in the panel a wet day and it made more sense to start lads a bit older with more experience which clearly was the case because both players you mentioned excelled in the Tailteann cup.

Was it the right call to have them 2 ahead of Frayne in 2023.. absolutely. Would they be ahead of Frayne now.. absolutely of course not.

Strange argument you've made there.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1049 - 04/03/2025 13:15:59    2594672

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I love you Colm O'Rourke

RegionalsGuru (Meath) - Posts: 18 - 04/03/2025 13:35:36    2594679

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Replying To Blackspot09:  "Who said it was a mad suggestion ? I'm just asking were you at the game because I had heard from 2 people who were that he was average at best and yet you said he dominated the game so considering there seems to be 2 very different opinions on his performance I would say it's a fair question to ask were you there.

Is that the Tailteann cup we won with both Aaron Lynch and James McEntee starting all the games and scoring heavily ??? That's a great argument.

In my opinion in 2023 Frayne wasn't ready because he was a young lad only in the panel a wet day and it made more sense to start lads a bit older with more experience which clearly was the case because both players you mentioned excelled in the Tailteann cup.

Was it the right call to have them 2 ahead of Frayne in 2023.. absolutely. Would they be ahead of Frayne now.. absolutely of course not.

Strange argument you've made there."
That 'young lad only in the panel a wet day' logic is nuts, Conor Duke has only been on the panel a wet day and he's been a big reason why we beat Roscommon and obviously westmeath. Frayne should have started 2023 championship especially as Caulfield and Gray were starting and the same age as him. Anyway I'd love to see Gray starting again soon, he's part of that age group of players who are driving really driving this meath team forward. The excitement at what he could be was huge in meath after Tailteann but unfortunately he had the disaster 2024 with illness/injuries.

Sheridan2010louth (Meath) - Posts: 209 - 04/03/2025 13:40:33    2594681

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Replying To Sheridan2010louth:  "That 'young lad only in the panel a wet day' logic is nuts, Conor Duke has only been on the panel a wet day and he's been a big reason why we beat Roscommon and obviously westmeath. Frayne should have started 2023 championship especially as Caulfield and Gray were starting and the same age as him. Anyway I'd love to see Gray starting again soon, he's part of that age group of players who are driving really driving this meath team forward. The excitement at what he could be was huge in meath after Tailteann but unfortunately he had the disaster 2024 with illness/injuries."
I never said all young lads should not start if they are only in but it was right the call with Frayne.

We won the Tailteann cup and the 2 lads you mentioned that he should have started ahead excelled in the competition so it was one of the rare occasions the previous management got it right .

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1049 - 04/03/2025 14:12:42    2594692

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Just a small point from last Sunday trip to Cusack park, I thought the match program costing €4 was a total rip off.And to add insult to injury,a different Westmeath team sheet was stapled in over the original printed one and there was even more changes to the team before the throw in.The previous Sundays,Meath GAA program costing €5 was far better covering both the Meath football and hurling games.

trappatoni (Meath) - Posts: 20 - 05/03/2025 10:03:35    2594843

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Nothing like a last gasp win,brought back memories of the good old days.We didn't play well (credit to Westmeath they had homework done)but kept fighting and never gave up.For his goal fair play to Duke for going for goal instead of a point, shows he has alot of confidence.We weren't near as dominant in midfield and lost alot of breaking ball as well.Westmeath were also in for a couple of goal chances but took points instead.We looked tired for most of the game but in fairness kept plugging away.I would be a little bit worried about injuries as Costello,Jones and James Conlon all out with bad hamstring injuries.Is there something in that? or maybe I'm reading too much into it.With 2 more intense games (hopefully 3)coming up before championship just hope no more injuries as we cant afford them.Its great we are challenging for promotion with 2 games left and management have done very well since coming in.It was great to see a big Meath crowd there the other definitely made a difference.The roar of the crowd near the end when Westmeath were on the attack and had only two players back and ref brought it up for a 20 metre free felt like a home game.Im really looking forward to the Monaghan game and would be great if we could get out in big numbers and drive the lads on.Hon the Royal.

Proudroyal (Meath) - Posts: 314 - 05/03/2025 11:39:26    2594854

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Just wondering why the Meath v Westmeath game wasn't shown live or even given highlights on League Sunday or TG4? A local derby with big significance, yet no coverage-seems a bit odd.

That being said, could this actually be a masterstroke by the Meath management? Colm O'Rourke introduced a few tactical tweaks last year that the new setup has clearly kept in place. Maybe keeping the game off the air is a deliberate move to stop other teams from getting a look at them?

What do people think-genuine oversight, or a bit of tactical secrecy at play?

RegionalsGuru (Meath) - Posts: 18 - 05/03/2025 11:59:24    2594858

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Replying To RegionalsGuru:  "Just wondering why the Meath v Westmeath game wasn't shown live or even given highlights on League Sunday or TG4? A local derby with big significance, yet no coverage-seems a bit odd.

That being said, could this actually be a masterstroke by the Meath management? Colm O'Rourke introduced a few tactical tweaks last year that the new setup has clearly kept in place. Maybe keeping the game off the air is a deliberate move to stop other teams from getting a look at them?

What do people think-genuine oversight, or a bit of tactical secrecy at play?"
I have seen some interesting takes on this forum, but this one takes it all. O'Rourke set up the team last year to the same tactical level as the 3 old men sitting at the bar in Fox's pub of Tara.

However the lack of coverage is annoying, Hopefully the game in two weeks will see some air time

Faithfulmeath (Meath) - Posts: 15 - 05/03/2025 13:57:34    2594885

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Replying To RegionalsGuru:  "Just wondering why the Meath v Westmeath game wasn't shown live or even given highlights on League Sunday or TG4? A local derby with big significance, yet no coverage-seems a bit odd.

That being said, could this actually be a masterstroke by the Meath management? Colm O'Rourke introduced a few tactical tweaks last year that the new setup has clearly kept in place. Maybe keeping the game off the air is a deliberate move to stop other teams from getting a look at them?

What do people think-genuine oversight, or a bit of tactical secrecy at play?"
You've 100% nailed it.... The powers that be in the Mearh County board pulled a few strings and called in a few favours from the heads in TG4 and Rte and made sure the game wasn't televised so all the revolutionary new tactics our previous manager brought in are not leaked to future opposition.

You've to get up early in the morning to get anything past you lad.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1049 - 05/03/2025 14:07:00    2594888

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Replying To RegionalsGuru:  "Just wondering why the Meath v Westmeath game wasn't shown live or even given highlights on League Sunday or TG4? A local derby with big significance, yet no coverage-seems a bit odd.

That being said, could this actually be a masterstroke by the Meath management? Colm O'Rourke introduced a few tactical tweaks last year that the new setup has clearly kept in place. Maybe keeping the game off the air is a deliberate move to stop other teams from getting a look at them?

What do people think-genuine oversight, or a bit of tactical secrecy at play?"
Apparently for the next game they are also going to block LMFM from covering them just in case the cute hoors in Kerry are trying to tune in on their satellite radios

Meath10 (Meath) - Posts: 196 - 06/03/2025 10:15:51    2595004

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Replying To Blackspot09:  "You've 100% nailed it.... The powers that be in the Mearh County board pulled a few strings and called in a few favours from the heads in TG4 and Rte and made sure the game wasn't televised so all the revolutionary new tactics our previous manager brought in are not leaked to future opposition.

You've to get up early in the morning to get anything past you lad."
No need to be sarcastic-this forum is open to everyone. I'm Ukrainian and have been relocated to Ireland, and I'm just getting into the GAA. I was genuinely interested in the discussion about why the Meath vs. Westmeath game wasn't shown.

I have been told that the Regional championship that takes place at the end of the year is very exciting so I am looking forward to that.

I'm still learning about the sport, but it's been amazing to see the passion people have for their county teams and legends such as Colm O'Rourke. Hopefully, future games get better coverage so more people-new and old fans alike-can enjoy them!

RegionalsGuru (Meath) - Posts: 18 - 06/03/2025 11:32:33    2595020

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Replying To RegionalsGuru:  "No need to be sarcastic-this forum is open to everyone. I'm Ukrainian and have been relocated to Ireland, and I'm just getting into the GAA. I was genuinely interested in the discussion about why the Meath vs. Westmeath game wasn't shown.

I have been told that the Regional championship that takes place at the end of the year is very exciting so I am looking forward to that.

I'm still learning about the sport, but it's been amazing to see the passion people have for their county teams and legends such as Colm O'Rourke. Hopefully, future games get better coverage so more people-new and old fans alike-can enjoy them!"
regional championships is muck

Points76 (Meath) - Posts: 23 - 06/03/2025 13:23:23    2595043

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