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Replying To WhyTheLongFace: "I don't agree Seadog if the new manager will be under pressure from the off , if the new manger wins 3 or 4 games in next year Division 2 league that's a very good start for me , like if he wins 4 league games out of 7 next year that's a great start , because the previous 2023/2024 league campaigns we only won two games each campaign which was very poor. There isn't any benchmark of success laid down by the previous manager , so I think people will be patient and if he improves year by year I am happy. Who would you like to see as the new manager you don't mind me asking seadog ?" That's more or less the pressure I meant four out of seven would be great, however, on last years evidence that is a big ask. Maybe it was all down to management and player's will produce for new man, some think they were being held back by previous managment, players now have chance to prove their point. I was happy with the selection of last three manager's but all ended in a mess, I will this one to the experts.A seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2196 - 26/08/2024 16:24:52 2566983 Link
A management meeting this evening that will be interesting because there seems to be a divide in the Management Committee as to the process around the review. I'm sure they all had a chance to look at the finding and if they had any issue COR would be still there so its on them all. 24 hrs later and there is a County board meeting now that's going to be interesting. I'm predicting that the delegates will go all out and demand answers. Sometimes you have to be carefully for what you wish for. COR is gone so where do we go now. Nothingbutthetruth (Meath) - Posts: 84 - 26/08/2024 16:46:22 2566993 Link
Replying To Nothingbutthetruth: "Please give the football reason why we should go for C O'Bric. Has he managed an adult team at club level because manging under age is a lot different to adult. Similar to O'Rourke a lot of noise coming from the players who were part of the U20's setup this year. It needs to be an outside person so that we can finally put behind us giving jobs to the boys." O Bric won Meath first minnor all Ireland in how Many years , then went onto win meaths first under20/21 title in how many years, appears to be good enough credentials to be considered for this job. Meathfootball12 (Meath) - Posts: 6 - 26/08/2024 16:59:22 2566994 Link
Replying To WhyTheLongFace: "I don't agree Seadog if the new manager will be under pressure from the off , if the new manger wins 3 or 4 games in next year Division 2 league that's a very good start for me , like if he wins 4 league games out of 7 next year that's a great start , because the previous 2023/2024 league campaigns we only won two games each campaign which was very poor. There isn't any benchmark of success laid down by the previous manager , so I think people will be patient and if he improves year by year I am happy. Who would you like to see as the new manager you don't mind me asking seadog ?" CORs statement has all the ingredients for a Mess still to come .Crikey....we have these everytime....for once is it too much for someone in a position of authority with Our Game in the County to do the unselfish thing ......I can see it already...next year when New Mana loses a game or two...we will have those who were in CORs corner, just waiting to say it would have been better if he got his 3rd year.and it will go on & on....this crap hasn't stopped since 2010.. ..actually ia m wrong ...this has been the way since 2003/2004 Thelongwoodslasher (Meath) - Posts: 403 - 26/08/2024 17:13:43 2567003 Link
Replying To Meathfootball12: "O Bric won Meath first minnor all Ireland in how Many years , then went onto win meaths first under20/21 title in how many years, appears to be good enough credentials to be considered for this job." The thing I like about O'bric is that he did a great job with the Meath minors and U20. So he clearly has track record of connecting with young teams. Meath seniors are young team and he is best placed to get the most out them. bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1265 - 26/08/2024 17:34:16 2567010 Link
Replying To Thelongwoodslasher: "CORs statement has all the ingredients for a Mess still to come .Crikey....we have these everytime....for once is it too much for someone in a position of authority with Our Game in the County to do the unselfish thing ......I can see it already...next year when New Mana loses a game or two...we will have those who were in CORs corner, just waiting to say it would have been better if he got his 3rd year.and it will go on & on....this crap hasn't stopped since 2010.. ..actually ia m wrong ...this has been the way since 2003/2004" I get it , there is always a weird group of people that will always Fangirl for the previous manager! It's like a cult! I think it's a social media thing were people don't like to lose face and be wrong or they just have a form of NPD and there opinion on things mean everything but only to themselves! I think a outside manager might break the circle and bring fans together , well I am hoping. WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 934 - 26/08/2024 17:41:34 2567011 Link
Replying To Meathfootball12: "O Bric won Meath first minnor all Ireland in how Many years , then went onto win meaths first under20/21 title in how many years, appears to be good enough credentials to be considered for this job." And thats how it should be. Dublin using the 20s as development opportunity for senior managers. Look at Jim Gavin, Dessie Farrell etc progressing from 20s to seniors. Same with Mickey Harte etc Aside from selecting a new manager succession planning should start now bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1807 - 26/08/2024 17:49:40 2567016 Link
Replying To Awaywin: "Only 2 teams out of senior have 4 adult team and only 4other senior teams have 3 teams Dunshaughlin dunboyne ratoath and Summerhill That's a total of 6 out of 16 senior teams with 3 or more adult teams So you are really wrong here with your info Your original point was about development and possible county players so don't start including dads and lads for god sake" Wow you are really knit picking at one comment. You also need to add Gael Colmcille and Simonstown to your list for clubs with three teams registered? Expect Trim to have very soon as they had before also. The point was that there is a huge pool of players playing football while obviously not all are county level but every club big and small has talented players while any club with 50 plus players. i.e those with three or four adult teams more likely to have some very talented players. The argument was that there was no back up to our senior panel which is wrong. We have a huge number of adult players and yes there is underage talent too. What the senior panel delivered for Meath last year did not indicate that these players are way ahead of most top level club players in Meath. winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 594 - 26/08/2024 21:22:04 2567043 Link
Replying To winatallcost: "Wow you are really knit picking at one comment. You also need to add Gael Colmcille and Simonstown to your list for clubs with three teams registered? Expect Trim to have very soon as they had before also. The point was that there is a huge pool of players playing football while obviously not all are county level but every club big and small has talented players while any club with 50 plus players. i.e those with three or four adult teams more likely to have some very talented players. The argument was that there was no back up to our senior panel which is wrong. We have a huge number of adult players and yes there is underage talent too. What the senior panel delivered for Meath last year did not indicate that these players are way ahead of most top level club players in Meath." You clearly don't watch many first team club games in Meath if you think that there are lots of back up players that could replace players currently on the squad. There absolutely isn't. Perhaps there are players who could replace the lads sitting at 26 to 35 on the panel who are there let's be honest to make up the numbers for training but as far as other players available to replace the top 20 off there really isn't barring the odd obvious one like Jack Flynn who I would expect to be back next year now that there will be a change in management. This argument that there are lots of better players out there has been put out on here time and time again but when the people pushing this argument are asked to name these players they can't because they aren't there apart from 1 or 2 obvious exceptions. Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1012 - 27/08/2024 00:05:52 2567055 Link
Replying To winatallcost: "Wow you are really knit picking at one comment. You also need to add Gael Colmcille and Simonstown to your list for clubs with three teams registered? Expect Trim to have very soon as they had before also. The point was that there is a huge pool of players playing football while obviously not all are county level but every club big and small has talented players while any club with 50 plus players. i.e those with three or four adult teams more likely to have some very talented players. The argument was that there was no back up to our senior panel which is wrong. We have a huge number of adult players and yes there is underage talent too. What the senior panel delivered for Meath last year did not indicate that these players are way ahead of most top level club players in Meath." Are you suggesting members of 2nd 3rd and 4th teams could be options to come in at intercounty level ??? Bar a few over 20 exceptions, we have our best panel, that's all we have, I don't think that's debatable. Last years u20s will hopefully develop into senior footballers in the next season or two. southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 938 - 27/08/2024 07:13:11 2567065 Link
Robbie Brennan was lined up to take a regional coaching role with Meath this year as announced in last year's county board report. He changed his mind late in the day but there has been the expectation he was waiting for the manager job to be available. He has had a new management team each of the last 4 years in Crokes. A Cathal O'Bric and Lar Wall combination would be better IMO. royal11 (Meath) - Posts: 102 - 27/08/2024 09:33:31 2567079 Link
Replying To royal11: "Robbie Brennan was lined up to take a regional coaching role with Meath this year as announced in last year's county board report. He changed his mind late in the day but there has been the expectation he was waiting for the manager job to be available. He has had a new management team each of the last 4 years in Crokes. A Cathal O'Bric and Lar Wall combination would be better IMO." What about Robbie Brennan for under 20s? bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1807 - 27/08/2024 10:28:29 2567086 Link
Regarding standard of players, I would expect a good manager to find a lot of talent ignored by previous manager. Donaghmore are very strong as results show and had no representation. Ratoaths best players were not wanted. Other East side clubs have similar tales. A new manager should not already have ideas on who he wants but know how he is going to test them and find the best. Hopefully the County board will get a bit of overdue luck and the future will be brilliant. Ashrules (Dublin) - Posts: 553 - 27/08/2024 11:11:35 2567091 Link
Replying To Blackspot09: "You clearly don't watch many first team club games in Meath if you think that there are lots of back up players that could replace players currently on the squad. There absolutely isn't. Perhaps there are players who could replace the lads sitting at 26 to 35 on the panel who are there let's be honest to make up the numbers for training but as far as other players available to replace the top 20 off there really isn't barring the odd obvious one like Jack Flynn who I would expect to be back next year now that there will be a change in management. This argument that there are lots of better players out there has been put out on here time and time again but when the people pushing this argument are asked to name these players they can't because they aren't there apart from 1 or 2 obvious exceptions." So you are suggesting that the 20 or so players that represented Meath in last years championship have proven themselves to be untouchable? Are they away and afar the best players with their clubs? There are plenty of good players around Meath and if the guys who are selected are not delivering we can just say let's see how they go next year. The management were put through the mill in the review process, the players will be under the radar next. It's just the way it works. winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 594 - 27/08/2024 11:24:24 2567095 Link
Ciaran Donaghy Manager, Lar Wall Coach, Karl Lacy, Coach, Paul Curran Coach, that's my ticket and that's who I would be going after. We need a good coordinator ( Manager ) and lads with a bit of steel and who have done well in there previous roles. We are spending a lot of money already so spend a bit more to get in proven Coaches. Nothingbutthetruth (Meath) - Posts: 84 - 27/08/2024 11:38:53 2567100 Link
Replying To Nothingbutthetruth: "Ciaran Donaghy Manager, Lar Wall Coach, Karl Lacy, Coach, Paul Curran Coach, that's my ticket and that's who I would be going after. We need a good coordinator ( Manager ) and lads with a bit of steel and who have done well in there previous roles. We are spending a lot of money already so spend a bit more to get in proven Coaches." As Tommy Cooper would have said "Just like that" Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1494 - 27/08/2024 12:05:12 2567109 Link
Replying To winatallcost: "So you are suggesting that the 20 or so players that represented Meath in last years championship have proven themselves to be untouchable? Are they away and afar the best players with their clubs? There are plenty of good players around Meath and if the guys who are selected are not delivering we can just say let's see how they go next year. The management were put through the mill in the review process, the players will be under the radar next. It's just the way it works." Not for one second saying they are untouchable. But this suggestion that there are shed loads of players on the club scene that could come in and do better than the the current 15/22 first lads and improve the team is simply not true. Barring the couple of obvious ones like Jack Flynn I would challenge you or anyone else who believes there are lots of players our there that will improve the starting team to name me 6 or 7 of these players. Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1012 - 27/08/2024 12:24:53 2567115 Link
Replying To Nothingbutthetruth: "Ciaran Donaghy Manager, Lar Wall Coach, Karl Lacy, Coach, Paul Curran Coach, that's my ticket and that's who I would be going after. We need a good coordinator ( Manager ) and lads with a bit of steel and who have done well in there previous roles. We are spending a lot of money already so spend a bit more to get in proven Coaches." Manager: Robbie Brennan Coaches: Lar Wall, Karl Lacey, David Gallagher Leave Cathal O'Bric with the U20s. This will be a quick process I feel. Brennan is the standout candidate. BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 998 - 27/08/2024 12:45:04 2567120 Link
Robbie Brennan would look like a front runner, was unaware the Bernard Flynn played some part with him at Dublin club. seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2196 - 27/08/2024 12:54:50 2567123 Link
Replying To seadog54: "Robbie Brennan would look like a front runner, was unaware the Bernard Flynn played some part with him at Dublin club." As is Paul Galvin so we might see his name on his coaching team. Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1012 - 27/08/2024 14:51:42 2567163 Link