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Replying To UsernameInvalid:  "Looking at the candidates available at the minute:

Robbie Brennan: Has great club experience with Crokes, won a club AI but might not have an in depth knowledge of Meath club football and probably won't get the chance to see many championship matches while still going with KC. Hasn't been involved in an Inter County set up as far as I know so does he know the expectations or the demands. He's been blessed with KC as most players live and work close by but with Meath there's players working and in college in Dublin, Maynooth and other parts of the country.

Lar Wall: Great knowledge of the Meath club scene. Success with the Downs and brought a Kells team on leaps and bounds, unlucky not to win a championship with them. He has been involved with Roscommon so he will have a knowledge of how much is required at an Inter County level.

Kevin Reilly: Good success with Trim especially as he had to manage the dual players which he done very well. Has been involved in u20 set ups. He would be good to be on a coaching ticket but not as a manager.

Malachy O Rourke: Probably the one that will least happen. Success with Monaghan and Glen however if he was to take the job it would be similar to Brennan in that he won't see much of the club championship.

Ideal coaching ticket for me would be as follows:
Manager: Malachy O Rourke
Selectors: Kevin Reilly, David Gallagher and Lar Wall
Would need to bring in a top class coach, S&C coach, nutritionist, physio.

Lar Wall would also be a good manager with the two other lads above as selectors and maybe someone like Cian Ward or Dean Rock in there as well."
Robbie Brennan might not have an in depth knowledge of meath football???? Really?

Ye may want to do a bit more research on him lad .He will have as much knowledge of meath football as Lar Wall and Kevin Reilly will that's a guarantee. Has lived in Dunboyne the last 25 years and played managed and coached in meath in those 25 years including with the Dunboyne minor team this year and can regularly be seen at Meath club games not just Dunboynes.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1012 - 01/09/2024 17:06:55    2567879

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Replying To Blackspot09:  "Robbie Brennan might not have an in depth knowledge of meath football???? Really?

Ye may want to do a bit more research on him lad .He will have as much knowledge of meath football as Lar Wall and Kevin Reilly will that's a guarantee. Has lived in Dunboyne the last 25 years and played managed and coached in meath in those 25 years including with the Dunboyne minor team this year and can regularly be seen at Meath club games not just Dunboynes."
Robbie Brennan is highly regarded by those in Dunboyne. Which is generally the hardest cohort to please.

I've coached underage for long time and never meet him tbh. However I do know he's attends a lot of games in meath as I've seen him regularly. He'd also a very high level knowledge on coaching, statistical analysis, s&c based off his KC experience I would assume.

He will most likely have an extended season with KC, so can he commit outside of this to inherit a very very dysfunctional county set up.

He's access to a pool of club players that aren't at Dublin club levels.

Not exactly attractive proposition while he is at the pinnacle of club football.

Lar wall is more a coach then manager from what I know of him. An excellent coach BTW.

Honestly I think we could see a left field appointment yet.

Who I'm unsure. But we need a very solid manager and coaching ticket. Game has moved on. Meath needs to also move on.

Meathooooo (Meath) - Posts: 94 - 01/09/2024 21:32:08    2567917

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Replying To Blackspot09:  "Robbie Brennan might not have an in depth knowledge of meath football???? Really?

Ye may want to do a bit more research on him lad .He will have as much knowledge of meath football as Lar Wall and Kevin Reilly will that's a guarantee. Has lived in Dunboyne the last 25 years and played managed and coached in meath in those 25 years including with the Dunboyne minor team this year and can regularly be seen at Meath club games not just Dunboynes."
That's why I used might, I don't know how many games he goes to but if KC are training or playing he won't be at a championship match in Meath or if he wants to go see one of their rivals he will pick that over a Meath club match which is understandable as his priority is KC, not Meath.

He won't have the knowledge that Lar Wall has when it comes to senior club football. Wall will have planned the downfall of most senior teams at some stage or another, and will have seen anyone thats 22 or older up closer and personal whether it was league or championship.

I don't really have a preference for either of them, there's pro's and con's for both.

UsernameInvalid (Meath) - Posts: 409 - 01/09/2024 21:56:19    2567921

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Replying To UsernameInvalid:  "That's why I used might, I don't know how many games he goes to but if KC are training or playing he won't be at a championship match in Meath or if he wants to go see one of their rivals he will pick that over a Meath club match which is understandable as his priority is KC, not Meath.

He won't have the knowledge that Lar Wall has when it comes to senior club football. Wall will have planned the downfall of most senior teams at some stage or another, and will have seen anyone thats 22 or older up closer and personal whether it was league or championship.

I don't really have a preference for either of them, there's pro's and con's for both."
Interesting take TBH.

Lar Wall managed the Downs for 2 years in 2022 and 2023 which included a run to the Leinster final V Crokes and then in September of last year joined the Roscommon coaching team so if usuing your logic on RB I don't see how he would have had time over the last 2/3 years to be attending meath Club games because presumably like RB he was busy with the Downs training and matches and going to watch their opposition and then when in with Roscommon was busy watching their club games checking in on players.

To be honest in my opinion that type of stuff wouldn't be a factor in the decision making process if I was choosing the next meath manager but surely if you are using that criteria as a possible mark against RB you should be using the same criteria for Lar Wall who has been just as busy away from Meath Club football as RB has.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1012 - 02/09/2024 08:42:16    2567946

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Why for the love of god would the new manager need to have an in depth knowledge of Meath Football?? id rather a manager that has no knowledge of Meath football!!
All the new manager needs to know is who is the base 30 best players in the county that that's all! Thats why these managers always pick a local selector or two to get that info! And as bad as COR was at other things I would doubt there are 30 different players in the county thats better than whats on the current panel so that would be the starting point!
Outside of that he doesn't need to know any more! In fact as I said... the less he knows about Meath football the better if you ask me.

JonnieG (Meath) - Posts: 246 - 02/09/2024 11:28:48    2567980

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Replying To JonnieG:  "Why for the love of god would the new manager need to have an in depth knowledge of Meath Football?? id rather a manager that has no knowledge of Meath football!!
All the new manager needs to know is who is the base 30 best players in the county that that's all! Thats why these managers always pick a local selector or two to get that info! And as bad as COR was at other things I would doubt there are 30 different players in the county thats better than whats on the current panel so that would be the starting point!
Outside of that he doesn't need to know any more! In fact as I said... the less he knows about Meath football the better if you ask me."
Agree 100%.

Sure COR had an in depth knowledge of Meath Club football.


I'm sure if Malachy O'Rourke came out tomorrow and said he wanted the meath job we wouldn't be worried about him not having an in depth knowledge of meath Club football.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1012 - 02/09/2024 11:38:58    2567984

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Replying To JonnieG:  "Why for the love of god would the new manager need to have an in depth knowledge of Meath Football?? id rather a manager that has no knowledge of Meath football!!
All the new manager needs to know is who is the base 30 best players in the county that that's all! Thats why these managers always pick a local selector or two to get that info! And as bad as COR was at other things I would doubt there are 30 different players in the county thats better than whats on the current panel so that would be the starting point!
Outside of that he doesn't need to know any more! In fact as I said... the less he knows about Meath football the better if you ask me."
Would agree with you.

It's not as if there's a 30/40 players who aren't involved with the country that have somehow slipped under the radar. Anyone who is good enough has been involved at some point and in some capacity.

Sure you could make the point some didn't get a proper opportunity, and of course there may be a few out there that haven't been given a chance yet - but it shouldn't be a deal breaker if the new manager doesn't have massive in-depth knowledge of Meath football. That's what selectors and backroom staff are for.

COR would have had a good knowledge of Meath football haven't been involved for a very long time with the likes of Simonstown, and St Pat's in Navan. That knowledge didn't really service him well in the end did it?

hyperache (Meath) - Posts: 254 - 02/09/2024 12:42:36    2568002

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Replying To hyperache:  "Would agree with you.

It's not as if there's a 30/40 players who aren't involved with the country that have somehow slipped under the radar. Anyone who is good enough has been involved at some point and in some capacity.

Sure you could make the point some didn't get a proper opportunity, and of course there may be a few out there that haven't been given a chance yet - but it shouldn't be a deal breaker if the new manager doesn't have massive in-depth knowledge of Meath football. That's what selectors and backroom staff are for.

COR would have had a good knowledge of Meath football haven't been involved for a very long time with the likes of Simonstown, and St Pat's in Navan. That knowledge didn't really service him well in the end did it?"
If you were to believe some on here over the last 5/6 years there are dozens and dozens of players out there better than what has been on the panel but never got a chance. The last 3 managers have ignored players better than the ones they picked according to some people.

Those us know meath football knows that isn't the case.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1012 - 02/09/2024 12:50:26    2568010

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I couldn't care less about what knowledge the next Meath manager has about Meath football. As some have already said here, the less they know the better at this stage. What everyone does want to see is a well coached team that has an identity on the pitch.

BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 998 - 02/09/2024 14:16:46    2568037

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Replying To BigJoe14:  "I couldn't care less about what knowledge the next Meath manager has about Meath football. As some have already said here, the less they know the better at this stage. What everyone does want to see is a well coached team that has an identity on the pitch."
Completely agree .

So far I am very happy with the names mentioned and link to the Meath job.

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 934 - 02/09/2024 15:46:14    2568059

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Replying To BigJoe14:  "I couldn't care less about what knowledge the next Meath manager has about Meath football. As some have already said here, the less they know the better at this stage. What everyone does want to see is a well coached team that has an identity on the pitch."
Agreed. Of no relevance at all. O'Rourke knew Meath football inside and out and was making claims about beating Dublin etc on taking the job despite knowing the talent available. How did that work out? The less they know the better as far as I'm concerned or they'll be put off taking it!

Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1352 - 03/09/2024 07:54:03    2568146

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What's the process from here? Will the nominated names be released officially or will it be all rumours until an appointment is announced? And when is the likely to be?

MeathAbroad (Meath) - Posts: 101 - 03/09/2024 09:30:25    2568158

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Replying To Crinigan:  "Agreed. Of no relevance at all. O'Rourke knew Meath football inside and out and was making claims about beating Dublin etc on taking the job despite knowing the talent available. How did that work out? The less they know the better as far as I'm concerned or they'll be put off taking it!"
Couldn't agree more. That's why I found it odd one posters opinion that an in depth knowledge of meath Club football was an advantage.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1012 - 03/09/2024 09:50:13    2568162

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Replying To MeathAbroad:  "What's the process from here? Will the nominated names be released officially or will it be all rumours until an appointment is announced? And when is the likely to be?"
Deadline for nominations is tomorrow I believe. The whole nominations process seems a bit bizarre to me. Everyone who is nominated and has agreed to let their name go forward to be nominated must be interviewed.

So if I could get a club to nominate me and I agreed to it they would have to interview me for the Meath senior football manager job.

Maybe I'm the only one but that seems a bit mad and while unlikely enough it is open to abuse and could also slow down the process due to having to interview candidates who have zero chance of getting it.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1012 - 03/09/2024 10:11:07    2568165

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Replying To Blackspot09:  "Deadline for nominations is tomorrow I believe. The whole nominations process seems a bit bizarre to me. Everyone who is nominated and has agreed to let their name go forward to be nominated must be interviewed.

So if I could get a club to nominate me and I agreed to it they would have to interview me for the Meath senior football manager job.

Maybe I'm the only one but that seems a bit mad and while unlikely enough it is open to abuse and could also slow down the process due to having to interview candidates who have zero chance of getting it."
I'd back you to do a decent job all the same if nominated.

Joking aside, I couldn't agree more. Also, what if an outstanding candidate is interested in the role but hasn't been nominated? Can they approach a club to seek a nomination? What if they've no affiliation to any club in Meath? Can the CB themselves approach interested parties if they haven't received a nomination? Several flaws in the process alright.

MarkMyWords (Meath) - Posts: 516 - 03/09/2024 12:37:28    2568198

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Replying To Blackspot09:  "Deadline for nominations is tomorrow I believe. The whole nominations process seems a bit bizarre to me. Everyone who is nominated and has agreed to let their name go forward to be nominated must be interviewed.

So if I could get a club to nominate me and I agreed to it they would have to interview me for the Meath senior football manager job.

Maybe I'm the only one but that seems a bit mad and while unlikely enough it is open to abuse and could also slow down the process due to having to interview candidates who have zero chance of getting it."
Any chance of a start??

Royalblufill (Meath) - Posts: 515 - 03/09/2024 13:29:22    2568212

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Replying To MarkMyWords:  "I'd back you to do a decent job all the same if nominated.

Joking aside, I couldn't agree more. Also, what if an outstanding candidate is interested in the role but hasn't been nominated? Can they approach a club to seek a nomination? What if they've no affiliation to any club in Meath? Can the CB themselves approach interested parties if they haven't received a nomination? Several flaws in the process alright."
I was going to go for it but my coaches are still involved with clubs so I can't name them until they are finished........ I'll go for it the next time.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1012 - 03/09/2024 13:59:58    2568218

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Replying To MarkMyWords:  "I'd back you to do a decent job all the same if nominated.

Joking aside, I couldn't agree more. Also, what if an outstanding candidate is interested in the role but hasn't been nominated? Can they approach a club to seek a nomination? What if they've no affiliation to any club in Meath? Can the CB themselves approach interested parties if they haven't received a nomination? Several flaws in the process alright."
In theory every club could nominate a different candidate and if they accept then all must be interviewed. However, as of yesterday no one has been nominated ( Chronicle podcast). But nominations for RB, LW and maybe one or two more expected by 9 am deadline on Wednesday. My understanding of process is CB can approach outside candidate.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2196 - 03/09/2024 14:05:31    2568221

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Replying To Royalblufill:  "Any chance of a start??"
Player/Coach role for you.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1012 - 03/09/2024 14:06:11    2568222

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Replying To Blackspot09:  "Deadline for nominations is tomorrow I believe. The whole nominations process seems a bit bizarre to me. Everyone who is nominated and has agreed to let their name go forward to be nominated must be interviewed.

So if I could get a club to nominate me and I agreed to it they would have to interview me for the Meath senior football manager job.

Maybe I'm the only one but that seems a bit mad and while unlikely enough it is open to abuse and could also slow down the process due to having to interview candidates who have zero chance of getting it."
Agreed entirely, and I would say the same about the management review process generally. There needs to be a much smaller committee/executive ideally with some full time paid staff such as Dublin, Cork and I believe Galway have. To me it seems like there's a lack of accountability as to who runs the elite inter county element of Meath GAA

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1527 - 03/09/2024 14:17:50    2568225

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