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Replying To nobull456: "Yeh.....everything seems a little sluggish in terms of moving forward in the last 2 games. Its like the wheels need to be pumped up .It would be even more frustrating driving up to Donegal from say Mullingar to a defeat. However, Colm still deserves the 2 years he asked for.Who knows all concerned could yet just click and what then? Time will tell." Hopefully.you are right he will naturally get his two years. As no one in their right mind would change now. But if things do not improve the two years end when our championship is over.but can't let it drag on until December I'm sure you would agree with that. As in if they decided to move on new management should at least get a chance to look at club championship.
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It's mad how quickly attitudes change.
After 2 games it was all doom and gloom after drawing with Fermanagh and losing to Armagh and everyone was sure we'd be relegated.
3 games later, we're heading towards challenging for promotion to Div 1 and everything is Rosy.
2 games more after that and we're useless again.
It's just funny how people interpret results.
Lets call a spade a spade. We're not good. We drew against a relegated Fermanagh. We beat a Louth team who have regressed since Harte left. We bet a team who lost 7 games out of 7 in division 2. We drew with a team who came up from division 3 and were no great shakes in Div 2. We were embarrassed by 2 teams heading up to division 1. In total we probably played a games worth of good football over the 7 games. This team is going nowhere very quickly
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Replying To Selwyn: "It's mad how quickly attitudes change.
After 2 games it was all doom and gloom after drawing with Fermanagh and losing to Armagh and everyone was sure we'd be relegated.
3 games later, we're heading towards challenging for promotion to Div 1 and everything is Rosy.
2 games more after that and we're useless again.
It's just funny how people interpret results.
Lets call a spade a spade. We're not good. We drew against a relegated Fermanagh. We beat a Louth team who have regressed since Harte left. We bet a team who lost 7 games out of 7 in division 2. We drew with a team who came up from division 3 and were no great shakes in Div 2. We were embarrassed by 2 teams heading up to division 1. In total we probably played a games worth of good football over the 7 games. This team is going nowhere very quickly" The question though is could someone else at the helm do better ? Or is it that they talent is not there ??
I think the talent is there but we are lacking a top level of coach . Could be wrong. But I think that's what we need. We were promised one but it never materialised.
Wtaf (Meath) - Posts: 29 - 24/03/2024 20:05:27
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This league campaign has the feeling of deja vu.
We yet again stay in division 2, no promotion or relegation. When it is all over we are a mid ranking team in the division again (before we get into debate of are we 5'th or 6'th in the table reality is 6 points from is only 1 off half the points available to us).
At least we have the group stages this year, the team still has the chance to take a step forward.
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Another league over and another year staying in division 2. Considering there's only 4 spots between 11-15 in Ireland that keeps you in division 2 it's amazing how we seem to end up there almost every year. The last 2 years league performances have been very poor I don't think that can be denied. The fact that when we've played Dublin, Derry last year and Armagh, Donegal this year the game has been completely over shortly after half time is a massive concern. As a likely fourth seed in the all Ireland this are the teams we will be playing. We need to hope we draw the Munster/Leinster runners up as our 2 seed if we're going to progress past the group stages based on all current evidence
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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99: "Another league over and another year staying in division 2. Considering there's only 4 spots between 11-15 in Ireland that keeps you in division 2 it's amazing how we seem to end up there almost every year. The last 2 years league performances have been very poor I don't think that can be denied. The fact that when we've played Dublin, Derry last year and Armagh, Donegal this year the game has been completely over shortly after half time is a massive concern. As a likely fourth seed in the all Ireland this are the teams we will be playing. We need to hope we draw the Munster/Leinster runners up as our 2 seed if we're going to progress past the group stages based on all current evidence" While it would be fantastic to get the munster Leinster finalist as an opponent. Playing devils advocate Would it create a a false outcome should we progress? My attention is already turning to club championship and the under 20s. . And hopefully a change in fortunes for our senior team next year. I'm sick hearing excuses.
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I wanted to post this as a separate post because it is long. I went up to Ballyboffey, it was a poor performance bar maybe the first 15 minutes but it was a dead rubber so it doesn't really matter. But what I did get annoyed by was Colm O'Rourke's post game interview.
Firstly he says the league was a qualified success, I'm sorry but 6 points and a -19 points difference should not be a qualified success in division 2, it's right up there with our worst ever performances in the division.
Secondly he keeps talking about what a young team we have. So I did a bit of research into it. I used our division 1 league against Monaghan in 2020 as a comparison. It was the last game of the league, it was a dead rubber, against a team at a very similar level then to where Donegal are now. For the ages of players I took the age they'd be at the end of the year (mostly based off when they played minor as it's hard to get an exact age based on lads birthdays). Our team that day and their ages.
1). Andy Colgan 26
2). Seamus Lavin 25, 3). Conor McGill 27, 4). David Toner 25,
5). Cathal Hickey 19, 6). Shane McEntee 26, 7). Donal Keoghan, 8). Brian Menton 28, 9). Ronan Jones 23,
10). Jason Scully 22), 11). Brian McMahon 27, 12). Ronan Ryan 23,
13). Cillian O'Sullivan 26, 14). Shane Walsh 20, 15). Thomas O'Reilly 23.
Subs - Jordy Morris 20, Matt Costello 19, Joey Wallace 25. Eoin Harkin 21, Jack O'Connor 20, Ethan Devine 22.
Average age of players who played that game 23.6, average age of the starting 15 24.6.
The average age of the team who played Donegal last weekend was 23.85, starting team 23.9. And of this some of the youngest players (Billy Hogan, Diarmuid Moriarty, Adam McDonnell didn't start a league game before that).
The team in 2020 drew with Monaghan, we couldn't even keep it a game with 25 minutes left at the weekend. And the team who played at the weekend had an older average age. I just do not buy that excuse. And if you want to argue it's an experience thing not an age thing. McGowan, Morris, Costello, Walsh, Hickey, O'Connor have all been on the panel 5 seasons at this point. We have 1 current under 20 playing. From last years full age 20's Frayne and Caulfield started, McDonnell and Kinsella got decent game time and Billy Hogan played the last game. From the year before it's just Diarmuid Moriarty who barely played. The vast majority of this team is 23+. They are a fairly young team but not so young that they can't be competing.
That brings me on to my last point. Colm O'Rourke saying we should start competing around 2026/2027. You could have told us all that before we went to all the league games, before we paid for season tickets. The lack of ambition is crazy. I'm not asking for us to be all Ireland contenders but Cavan, Cork and Louth competed really well in games with Donegal/Armagh. That's all I'm asking for but apparently that's too much even though we were able to do it with just as young a team with less underage/ college pedigree a few years ago.
O'Rourke fairly criticised our senior club championships and under 20's and the lack of Leinster success for both. Armagh who are a team we can't compete with haven't won an under 20/21 in Ulster since 2007 and their last senior club team to make an Ulster final was Crossmaglen 9 years ago. Rian O'Neill wasn't even playing on that team it's that long ago. But yet because of our pedigree we can't even compete with that team nevermind beat them. What's the difference? They've a manager with inter county experience and somebody who looks for solutions and not excuses and they've outside expertise in the form of Kieran Donaghy. For some reason despite our 100k of management expenses last year we seem unable to get either.
Apologies for the long post but the post game comments having made the journey to Ballyboffey really angered me
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Replying To Wtaf: "The question though is could someone else at the helm do better ? Or is it that they talent is not there ??
I think the talent is there but we are lacking a top level of coach . Could be wrong. But I think that's what we need. We were promised one but it never materialised." I also think the potential is there. As for who could take the whole thing forward and do it properly? Robbie Brennan the Kilmacud Manager.
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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99: "I wanted to post this as a separate post because it is long. I went up to Ballyboffey, it was a poor performance bar maybe the first 15 minutes but it was a dead rubber so it doesn't really matter. But what I did get annoyed by was Colm O'Rourke's post game interview.
Firstly he says the league was a qualified success, I'm sorry but 6 points and a -19 points difference should not be a qualified success in division 2, it's right up there with our worst ever performances in the division.
Secondly he keeps talking about what a young team we have. So I did a bit of research into it. I used our division 1 league against Monaghan in 2020 as a comparison. It was the last game of the league, it was a dead rubber, against a team at a very similar level then to where Donegal are now. For the ages of players I took the age they'd be at the end of the year (mostly based off when they played minor as it's hard to get an exact age based on lads birthdays). Our team that day and their ages.
1). Andy Colgan 26
2). Seamus Lavin 25, 3). Conor McGill 27, 4). David Toner 25,
5). Cathal Hickey 19, 6). Shane McEntee 26, 7). Donal Keoghan, 8). Brian Menton 28, 9). Ronan Jones 23,
10). Jason Scully 22), 11). Brian McMahon 27, 12). Ronan Ryan 23,
13). Cillian O'Sullivan 26, 14). Shane Walsh 20, 15). Thomas O'Reilly 23.
Subs - Jordy Morris 20, Matt Costello 19, Joey Wallace 25. Eoin Harkin 21, Jack O'Connor 20, Ethan Devine 22.
Average age of players who played that game 23.6, average age of the starting 15 24.6.
The average age of the team who played Donegal last weekend was 23.85, starting team 23.9. And of this some of the youngest players (Billy Hogan, Diarmuid Moriarty, Adam McDonnell didn't start a league game before that).
The team in 2020 drew with Monaghan, we couldn't even keep it a game with 25 minutes left at the weekend. And the team who played at the weekend had an older average age. I just do not buy that excuse. And if you want to argue it's an experience thing not an age thing. McGowan, Morris, Costello, Walsh, Hickey, O'Connor have all been on the panel 5 seasons at this point. We have 1 current under 20 playing. From last years full age 20's Frayne and Caulfield started, McDonnell and Kinsella got decent game time and Billy Hogan played the last game. From the year before it's just Diarmuid Moriarty who barely played. The vast majority of this team is 23+. They are a fairly young team but not so young that they can't be competing.
That brings me on to my last point. Colm O'Rourke saying we should start competing around 2026/2027. You could have told us all that before we went to all the league games, before we paid for season tickets. The lack of ambition is crazy. I'm not asking for us to be all Ireland contenders but Cavan, Cork and Louth competed really well in games with Donegal/Armagh. That's all I'm asking for but apparently that's too much even though we were able to do it with just as young a team with less underage/ college pedigree a few years ago.
O'Rourke fairly criticised our senior club championships and under 20's and the lack of Leinster success for both. Armagh who are a team we can't compete with haven't won an under 20/21 in Ulster since 2007 and their last senior club team to make an Ulster final was Crossmaglen 9 years ago. Rian O'Neill wasn't even playing on that team it's that long ago. But yet because of our pedigree we can't even compete with that team nevermind beat them. What's the difference? They've a manager with inter county experience and somebody who looks for solutions and not excuses and they've outside expertise in the form of Kieran Donaghy. For some reason despite our 100k of management expenses last year we seem unable to get either.
Apologies for the long post but the post game comments having made the journey to Ballyboffey really angered me" Absolutely spot on in everything you have said there. His interview after the game was embarrassing and infuriating. Are the people conducting these interviews ever going to challenge him on what he is coming out with?
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Replying To Selwyn: "I also think the potential is there. As for who could take the whole thing forward and do it properly? Robbie Brennan the Kilmacud Manager." Good call
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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99: "I wanted to post this as a separate post because it is long. I went up to Ballyboffey, it was a poor performance bar maybe the first 15 minutes but it was a dead rubber so it doesn't really matter. But what I did get annoyed by was Colm O'Rourke's post game interview.
Firstly he says the league was a qualified success, I'm sorry but 6 points and a -19 points difference should not be a qualified success in division 2, it's right up there with our worst ever performances in the division.
Secondly he keeps talking about what a young team we have. So I did a bit of research into it. I used our division 1 league against Monaghan in 2020 as a comparison. It was the last game of the league, it was a dead rubber, against a team at a very similar level then to where Donegal are now. For the ages of players I took the age they'd be at the end of the year (mostly based off when they played minor as it's hard to get an exact age based on lads birthdays). Our team that day and their ages.
1). Andy Colgan 26
2). Seamus Lavin 25, 3). Conor McGill 27, 4). David Toner 25,
5). Cathal Hickey 19, 6). Shane McEntee 26, 7). Donal Keoghan, 8). Brian Menton 28, 9). Ronan Jones 23,
10). Jason Scully 22), 11). Brian McMahon 27, 12). Ronan Ryan 23,
13). Cillian O'Sullivan 26, 14). Shane Walsh 20, 15). Thomas O'Reilly 23.
Subs - Jordy Morris 20, Matt Costello 19, Joey Wallace 25. Eoin Harkin 21, Jack O'Connor 20, Ethan Devine 22.
Average age of players who played that game 23.6, average age of the starting 15 24.6.
The average age of the team who played Donegal last weekend was 23.85, starting team 23.9. And of this some of the youngest players (Billy Hogan, Diarmuid Moriarty, Adam McDonnell didn't start a league game before that).
The team in 2020 drew with Monaghan, we couldn't even keep it a game with 25 minutes left at the weekend. And the team who played at the weekend had an older average age. I just do not buy that excuse. And if you want to argue it's an experience thing not an age thing. McGowan, Morris, Costello, Walsh, Hickey, O'Connor have all been on the panel 5 seasons at this point. We have 1 current under 20 playing. From last years full age 20's Frayne and Caulfield started, McDonnell and Kinsella got decent game time and Billy Hogan played the last game. From the year before it's just Diarmuid Moriarty who barely played. The vast majority of this team is 23+. They are a fairly young team but not so young that they can't be competing.
That brings me on to my last point. Colm O'Rourke saying we should start competing around 2026/2027. You could have told us all that before we went to all the league games, before we paid for season tickets. The lack of ambition is crazy. I'm not asking for us to be all Ireland contenders but Cavan, Cork and Louth competed really well in games with Donegal/Armagh. That's all I'm asking for but apparently that's too much even though we were able to do it with just as young a team with less underage/ college pedigree a few years ago.
O'Rourke fairly criticised our senior club championships and under 20's and the lack of Leinster success for both. Armagh who are a team we can't compete with haven't won an under 20/21 in Ulster since 2007 and their last senior club team to make an Ulster final was Crossmaglen 9 years ago. Rian O'Neill wasn't even playing on that team it's that long ago. But yet because of our pedigree we can't even compete with that team nevermind beat them. What's the difference? They've a manager with inter county experience and somebody who looks for solutions and not excuses and they've outside expertise in the form of Kieran Donaghy. For some reason despite our 100k of management expenses last year we seem unable to get either.
Apologies for the long post but the post game comments having made the journey to Ballyboffey really angered me" Most articulate and accurate statement I have read on here since returning
Wtaf (Meath) - Posts: 29 - 25/03/2024 00:33:29
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Replying To Selwyn: "I also think the potential is there. As for who could take the whole thing forward and do it properly? Robbie Brennan the Kilmacud Manager." Robbie Brenann or Cathal O'Bric I'd gladly take either. Two outstanding candidates.
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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99: "I wanted to post this as a separate post because it is long. I went up to Ballyboffey, it was a poor performance bar maybe the first 15 minutes but it was a dead rubber so it doesn't really matter. But what I did get annoyed by was Colm O'Rourke's post game interview.
Firstly he says the league was a qualified success, I'm sorry but 6 points and a -19 points difference should not be a qualified success in division 2, it's right up there with our worst ever performances in the division.
Secondly he keeps talking about what a young team we have. So I did a bit of research into it. I used our division 1 league against Monaghan in 2020 as a comparison. It was the last game of the league, it was a dead rubber, against a team at a very similar level then to where Donegal are now. For the ages of players I took the age they'd be at the end of the year (mostly based off when they played minor as it's hard to get an exact age based on lads birthdays). Our team that day and their ages.
1). Andy Colgan 26
2). Seamus Lavin 25, 3). Conor McGill 27, 4). David Toner 25,
5). Cathal Hickey 19, 6). Shane McEntee 26, 7). Donal Keoghan, 8). Brian Menton 28, 9). Ronan Jones 23,
10). Jason Scully 22), 11). Brian McMahon 27, 12). Ronan Ryan 23,
13). Cillian O'Sullivan 26, 14). Shane Walsh 20, 15). Thomas O'Reilly 23.
Subs - Jordy Morris 20, Matt Costello 19, Joey Wallace 25. Eoin Harkin 21, Jack O'Connor 20, Ethan Devine 22.
Average age of players who played that game 23.6, average age of the starting 15 24.6.
The average age of the team who played Donegal last weekend was 23.85, starting team 23.9. And of this some of the youngest players (Billy Hogan, Diarmuid Moriarty, Adam McDonnell didn't start a league game before that).
The team in 2020 drew with Monaghan, we couldn't even keep it a game with 25 minutes left at the weekend. And the team who played at the weekend had an older average age. I just do not buy that excuse. And if you want to argue it's an experience thing not an age thing. McGowan, Morris, Costello, Walsh, Hickey, O'Connor have all been on the panel 5 seasons at this point. We have 1 current under 20 playing. From last years full age 20's Frayne and Caulfield started, McDonnell and Kinsella got decent game time and Billy Hogan played the last game. From the year before it's just Diarmuid Moriarty who barely played. The vast majority of this team is 23+. They are a fairly young team but not so young that they can't be competing.
That brings me on to my last point. Colm O'Rourke saying we should start competing around 2026/2027. You could have told us all that before we went to all the league games, before we paid for season tickets. The lack of ambition is crazy. I'm not asking for us to be all Ireland contenders but Cavan, Cork and Louth competed really well in games with Donegal/Armagh. That's all I'm asking for but apparently that's too much even though we were able to do it with just as young a team with less underage/ college pedigree a few years ago.
O'Rourke fairly criticised our senior club championships and under 20's and the lack of Leinster success for both. Armagh who are a team we can't compete with haven't won an under 20/21 in Ulster since 2007 and their last senior club team to make an Ulster final was Crossmaglen 9 years ago. Rian O'Neill wasn't even playing on that team it's that long ago. But yet because of our pedigree we can't even compete with that team nevermind beat them. What's the difference? They've a manager with inter county experience and somebody who looks for solutions and not excuses and they've outside expertise in the form of Kieran Donaghy. For some reason despite our 100k of management expenses last year we seem unable to get either.
Apologies for the long post but the post game comments having made the journey to Ballyboffey really angered me" I respect your summary however I would like you to name your starting 15 for Longford.
Lads in the panel and lads not on the panel.
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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99: "Another league over and another year staying in division 2. Considering there's only 4 spots between 11-15 in Ireland that keeps you in division 2 it's amazing how we seem to end up there almost every year. The last 2 years league performances have been very poor I don't think that can be denied. The fact that when we've played Dublin, Derry last year and Armagh, Donegal this year the game has been completely over shortly after half time is a massive concern. As a likely fourth seed in the all Ireland this are the teams we will be playing. We need to hope we draw the Munster/Leinster runners up as our 2 seed if we're going to progress past the group stages based on all current evidence" Ya, it's amazing every year we end up staying in division 2 when you consider that each year 4 of the 8 teams leave the division (between promotion and relegation).
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Replying To thelutch: "I respect your summary however I would like you to name your starting 15 for Longford.
Lads in the panel and lads not on the panel." I never said the lads in the panel aren't the best players. I think they are the best players in Meath bar maybe a few things on the fringes like Cathal Finnegan. What I take issue with is the excuse that lads are only there because they're young. If he wanted experience he could have not dropped Conor McGill, could have given Shane McEntee game time last year, could have not dropped James McEntee this year. I do think most of our best players are on the panel they're just playing below what they should be
LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1527 - 25/03/2024 10:03:19
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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99: "I never said the lads in the panel aren't the best players. I think they are the best players in Meath bar maybe a few things on the fringes like Cathal Finnegan. What I take issue with is the excuse that lads are only there because they're young. If he wanted experience he could have not dropped Conor McGill, could have given Shane McEntee game time last year, could have not dropped James McEntee this year. I do think most of our best players are on the panel they're just playing below what they should be" That's it.
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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99: "I wanted to post this as a separate post because it is long. I went up to Ballyboffey, it was a poor performance bar maybe the first 15 minutes but it was a dead rubber so it doesn't really matter. But what I did get annoyed by was Colm O'Rourke's post game interview.
Firstly he says the league was a qualified success, I'm sorry but 6 points and a -19 points difference should not be a qualified success in division 2, it's right up there with our worst ever performances in the division.
Secondly he keeps talking about what a young team we have. So I did a bit of research into it. I used our division 1 league against Monaghan in 2020 as a comparison. It was the last game of the league, it was a dead rubber, against a team at a very similar level then to where Donegal are now. For the ages of players I took the age they'd be at the end of the year (mostly based off when they played minor as it's hard to get an exact age based on lads birthdays). Our team that day and their ages.
1). Andy Colgan 26
2). Seamus Lavin 25, 3). Conor McGill 27, 4). David Toner 25,
5). Cathal Hickey 19, 6). Shane McEntee 26, 7). Donal Keoghan, 8). Brian Menton 28, 9). Ronan Jones 23,
10). Jason Scully 22), 11). Brian McMahon 27, 12). Ronan Ryan 23,
13). Cillian O'Sullivan 26, 14). Shane Walsh 20, 15). Thomas O'Reilly 23.
Subs - Jordy Morris 20, Matt Costello 19, Joey Wallace 25. Eoin Harkin 21, Jack O'Connor 20, Ethan Devine 22.
Average age of players who played that game 23.6, average age of the starting 15 24.6.
The average age of the team who played Donegal last weekend was 23.85, starting team 23.9. And of this some of the youngest players (Billy Hogan, Diarmuid Moriarty, Adam McDonnell didn't start a league game before that).
The team in 2020 drew with Monaghan, we couldn't even keep it a game with 25 minutes left at the weekend. And the team who played at the weekend had an older average age. I just do not buy that excuse. And if you want to argue it's an experience thing not an age thing. McGowan, Morris, Costello, Walsh, Hickey, O'Connor have all been on the panel 5 seasons at this point. We have 1 current under 20 playing. From last years full age 20's Frayne and Caulfield started, McDonnell and Kinsella got decent game time and Billy Hogan played the last game. From the year before it's just Diarmuid Moriarty who barely played. The vast majority of this team is 23+. They are a fairly young team but not so young that they can't be competing.
That brings me on to my last point. Colm O'Rourke saying we should start competing around 2026/2027. You could have told us all that before we went to all the league games, before we paid for season tickets. The lack of ambition is crazy. I'm not asking for us to be all Ireland contenders but Cavan, Cork and Louth competed really well in games with Donegal/Armagh. That's all I'm asking for but apparently that's too much even though we were able to do it with just as young a team with less underage/ college pedigree a few years ago.
O'Rourke fairly criticised our senior club championships and under 20's and the lack of Leinster success for both. Armagh who are a team we can't compete with haven't won an under 20/21 in Ulster since 2007 and their last senior club team to make an Ulster final was Crossmaglen 9 years ago. Rian O'Neill wasn't even playing on that team it's that long ago. But yet because of our pedigree we can't even compete with that team nevermind beat them. What's the difference? They've a manager with inter county experience and somebody who looks for solutions and not excuses and they've outside expertise in the form of Kieran Donaghy. For some reason despite our 100k of management expenses last year we seem unable to get either.
Apologies for the long post but the post game comments having made the journey to Ballyboffey really angered me" Great post!!
Royalblufill (Meath) - Posts: 515 - 25/03/2024 11:42:16
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Replying To Selwyn: "I also think the potential is there. As for who could take the whole thing forward and do it properly? Robbie Brennan the Kilmacud Manager." Did I not read before Christmas that Brennan was coming in as a coach after the all ireland club was finished? Thought it was a done deal. What happened there or was someone just pulling my leg?
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Refreshing response to being well beaten.............I just had a look at Limerick Manager John Kiely's response to being well beaten by Kilkenny last week As manager i rate him in the Jim Gavin category i.e.tops. Why? because he says it as it is .He was not short on anything ,and offered no excuses. No game playing tactics ;but put sharp focus on what needs to be done as remedial work. I applaud his honesty ,and confirms yet again why he has been so successful as manager.To this poster a great example of that word again ATTITUDE. John of course is very experienced as manager. and to me a very useful example as a learning resourse. Well worth reading !
nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1266 - 25/03/2024 14:37:39
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browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 25/03/2024 19:47:42
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