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1. Billy Hogan
2. Michael Flood
3. Ronan Ryan
4. Harry O'Higgins
5. Adam McDonnell
6. Ross Ryan
7. Michael Murphy
8. Danny Dixon
9. Cian McBride
10. Cathal Hickey
11. Ruairi Kinsella
12. Diarmuid Moriarty
13. Jordan Morris
14. Aaron lynch
15. Keith Curtis
Not trying to be controversial would just love to see a full experimentation in a game that means nothing for either team. A lot of lads have been training hard all winter and got little to no gametime. Morris and Ronan Ryan should at least play 1 half.
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Replying To Sheridan2010louth: "1. Billy Hogan
2. Michael Flood
3. Ronan Ryan
4. Harry O'Higgins
5. Adam McDonnell
6. Ross Ryan
7. Michael Murphy
8. Danny Dixon
9. Cian McBride
10. Cathal Hickey
11. Ruairi Kinsella
12. Diarmuid Moriarty
13. Jordan Morris
14. Aaron lynch
15. Keith Curtis
Not trying to be controversial would just love to see a full experimentation in a game that means nothing for either team. A lot of lads have been training hard all winter and got little to no gametime. Morris and Ronan Ryan should at least play 1 half." Changes have been made and I think management have got balance right, good to see DM and Curtis getting a start. Nothing to be learned by wholesale changes, just for the sake of it. Incoming players need experience around them, to give them every chance.
Morris and Ronan Ryan still out
seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2196 - 22/03/2024 10:27:54
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Replying To seadog54: "Changes have been made and I think management have got balance right, good to see DM and Curtis getting a start. Nothing to be learned by wholesale changes, just for the sake of it. Incoming players need experience around them, to give them every chance.
Morris and Ronan Ryan still out" The ironic thing is that the team selected for tomorrow looks stronger and more balanced than the one that has played the entire league up until now, and yet this is deemed the experimental/changed team. A keeper with a longer kick out, more pace in the wingbacks, an actual defender selected at center back who knows how to play there as well, good kick passers in the half forward line, and a strong looking full forward line who can score.
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Bit disappointed Scully, Ronan Ryan and Jordy Morris still aren't ready for game time, hopefully they aren't out too much longer
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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99: "Bit disappointed Scully, Ronan Ryan and Jordy Morris still aren't ready for game time, hopefully they aren't out too much longer" Would you expect any of these with exception of Ronan Ryan to be starting if fit? I'm not sure.
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Replying To winatallcost: "Would you expect any of these with exception of Ronan Ryan to be starting if fit? I'm not sure." I would have Morris and Ryan starting for sure. And then Scully if he could get to 2022 form would be a toss up with McGowan for me. But would certainly strengthen our bench
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While at times we seemed more balanced, still same old errors. Same position as last year so no improvement unfortunately yet. Let's hope for a good championship. Need jordy back asap
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Replying To BigJoe14: "The ironic thing is that the team selected for tomorrow looks stronger and more balanced than the one that has played the entire league up until now, and yet this is deemed the experimental/changed team. A keeper with a longer kick out, more pace in the wingbacks, an actual defender selected at center back who knows how to play there as well, good kick passers in the half forward line, and a strong looking full forward line who can score." A prime example of the waffle that goes on here. Jesus christ almighty..... First of all 6 is the only possition donal has shown he can't play. As for your summary of or forwards, who would have thought we could have gotten 6 worse forwards then we have had in previous games
southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 938 - 24/03/2024 00:30:41
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3rd from bottom. 1 point off relegation. Have we actually improved?
Selwyn (Meath) - Posts: 387 - 24/03/2024 07:38:47
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I thought if 2 teams finished level on points their position was determined by head to head?
bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1402 - 24/03/2024 09:04:41
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Replying To bdbuddah: "I thought if 2 teams finished level on points their position was determined by head to head?" There are some tables showing us finishing 6th and some showing us finishing 5th. I'd be fairly sure you are correct and we finished 5th on head to head. Either way it was a very disappointing league yet again with no improvement despite what some on here will undoubtedly try to claim. 2 wins 1 against a louth team gone back from where they were last year and a kildare team that everyone in the division beat pretty comfortably so we'd be as well off discounting that one.
Big championship coming up for the team and management. Need to win the first game no excuses. Draw a line through the dublin game obviously then into the all ireland series where we need to see improvement where we semi compete with the big dogs even for 40/45 minutes like we did in the Super 8s a few years . Then hopefully catch one of the lower tier top teams like Roscommon or Monaghan on the hop and beat them which might land us in 3rd and in the preliminary 1/4.
If the championship season played out like that I'd see it as a reasonably successful campaign
Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1012 - 24/03/2024 10:21:10
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Replying To Blackspot09: "There are some tables showing us finishing 6th and some showing us finishing 5th. I'd be fairly sure you are correct and we finished 5th on head to head. Either way it was a very disappointing league yet again with no improvement despite what some on here will undoubtedly try to claim. 2 wins 1 against a louth team gone back from where they were last year and a kildare team that everyone in the division beat pretty comfortably so we'd be as well off discounting that one.
Big championship coming up for the team and management. Need to win the first game no excuses. Draw a line through the dublin game obviously then into the all ireland series where we need to see improvement where we semi compete with the big dogs even for 40/45 minutes like we did in the Super 8s a few years . Then hopefully catch one of the lower tier top teams like Roscommon or Monaghan on the hop and beat them which might land us in 3rd and in the preliminary 1/4.
If the championship season played out like that I'd see it as a reasonably successful campaign" I would have been critical of alot of posters over reacting after the first two games but the league has been extremely average with excuses about Sigerson and a new team with young players beginning to drag. We are in second year for this management team and majority of players were there last year so really they need to start showing something. If you listen to both interviews from O'Rourke and Mcguinness after the match yesterday, Mcguinness speaks like he is more disappointed than O'Rourke despite winning by 8 pts. I think our setup needs greater ambition and drive. Our scoring rate is way too low and this has not improved much at all. We don't play with any real purpose going forward at all. We are really relying on being defensively sound to win games. This won't be sustainable and actually has shown it hasn't been. We need a major improvement come championship and hopefully it will come but there isn't a great deal of time. We are definitely at the lower end of ranked teams in Sam Maguire Cup at the moment but it's up to management and team to start making inroads. Looking forward to U20 campaign to see potential here but we need to start showing something at senior level.
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Replying To winatallcost: "I would have been critical of alot of posters over reacting after the first two games but the league has been extremely average with excuses about Sigerson and a new team with young players beginning to drag. We are in second year for this management team and majority of players were there last year so really they need to start showing something. If you listen to both interviews from O'Rourke and Mcguinness after the match yesterday, Mcguinness speaks like he is more disappointed than O'Rourke despite winning by 8 pts. I think our setup needs greater ambition and drive. Our scoring rate is way too low and this has not improved much at all. We don't play with any real purpose going forward at all. We are really relying on being defensively sound to win games. This won't be sustainable and actually has shown it hasn't been. We need a major improvement come championship and hopefully it will come but there isn't a great deal of time. We are definitely at the lower end of ranked teams in Sam Maguire Cup at the moment but it's up to management and team to start making inroads. Looking forward to U20 campaign to see potential here but we need to start showing something at senior level." Let's not forget, McGuinness is only in the door a few months with Donegal and has drastically improved them straight away. Meath are in year two with this current set up and have shown little to no improvement, let's be honest. And the Tailteann is not a beromiter for improvement. That was a competition for division 3 & 4 teams that Meath shouldn't have been in, but was a blessing in disguise that they were. O'Rourke still even mentioned the sigerson Cup again after the game last night. Also talking about how they will have a decent team in 2026! How does he know that? Things don't move in a straight line, players come and go, others get injured, things happen etc. Focus on now not trying to put estimates on when you might be able to compete with a top team.
BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 998 - 24/03/2024 11:53:43
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The usual excuses from O'Rourke last night, still using the Sigerson excuse which is just laughable at this stage. Saying
we won't be competitive against the big teams until 26/27, what message does that give the likes of Donal Keoghan heading into the All Ireland series.
Our standards are on the floor, he called this league a qualified success, how is finishing 6th a qualified success. He was happier than McGuiness last night after losing by 8 points.
No one is asking Meath to compete against the big teams, we know we don't have the quality for that, but surely we should be expecting to beat the likes of Fermanagh and cavan and not get absolutely annihilated against Donegal and Armagh.
He has previously gone on record saying if he dosen't see improvement in 2 years then he will step away from the job, it will be interesting to see if that is the case because clearly there is none.
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Ultimately, it was a rather predictable league campaign. I would say that considering the age profile and relative low ceiling of the the team, injuries, panel profile etc., that it is a more progressive year than not.
Ultimately Meath drew with a good Fermanagh team, drew with a good Cavan team, and beat Louth and Kildare, two provincial rivals. Lost to two teams in Armagh and Donegal who are on another level to them, and lost to a Cork team who has grown into the league, which Cork have always done. As always division 2 was a bearpit and everyone bar Armagh/Donegal was within a nose hair of each other.
I dont see the need for dramatics myself. This is a side which won the Tailteann Cup last year by beating Down twice, Antrim, Wexford, Tipperary and Waterford - three of those five are textbook division four football counties, and the other two are half full of people who'd rather look at a wall than a GAA match. At the time it was a nice journey in small grounds and we got behind a nice, young team and they got the job done from a very low base, and it was lovely to see. However it was a limited success story and everyone knows it.
This year - so far - hasnt been pretty at all, it has been dogged, resilient, low calibre at times, chaotic at times, and characterised by stoic old-school defence to deliver results... but it is an improvement on last year. I will stand by that lads.
Not expecting one iota out of the Leinster championship, couldnt care less, but I think if this team comes out of the hat in a half decent group for the Round of 16 Sam Maguire, they can challenge and put it up to the Monaghans, Roscommons, Galways, Tyrones of the world, especially in Navan or a Leinster ground where Meath fans will turn out. We wait and see.
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Replying To Young_gael: "Ultimately, it was a rather predictable league campaign. I would say that considering the age profile and relative low ceiling of the the team, injuries, panel profile etc., that it is a more progressive year than not.
Ultimately Meath drew with a good Fermanagh team, drew with a good Cavan team, and beat Louth and Kildare, two provincial rivals. Lost to two teams in Armagh and Donegal who are on another level to them, and lost to a Cork team who has grown into the league, which Cork have always done. As always division 2 was a bearpit and everyone bar Armagh/Donegal was within a nose hair of each other.
I dont see the need for dramatics myself. This is a side which won the Tailteann Cup last year by beating Down twice, Antrim, Wexford, Tipperary and Waterford - three of those five are textbook division four football counties, and the other two are half full of people who'd rather look at a wall than a GAA match. At the time it was a nice journey in small grounds and we got behind a nice, young team and they got the job done from a very low base, and it was lovely to see. However it was a limited success story and everyone knows it.
This year - so far - hasnt been pretty at all, it has been dogged, resilient, low calibre at times, chaotic at times, and characterised by stoic old-school defence to deliver results... but it is an improvement on last year. I will stand by that lads.
Not expecting one iota out of the Leinster championship, couldnt care less, but I think if this team comes out of the hat in a half decent group for the Round of 16 Sam Maguire, they can challenge and put it up to the Monaghans, Roscommons, Galways, Tyrones of the world, especially in Navan or a Leinster ground where Meath fans will turn out. We wait and see." Drew with a good Fermanagh team and a good Cavan team? It would be an understatement to suggest I agree with you here. Along with Antrim, these are by far the three weakest teams in the Ulster championship. Unfortunately the league has shown, this is our level also.
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Replying To Blackspot09: "There are some tables showing us finishing 6th and some showing us finishing 5th. I'd be fairly sure you are correct and we finished 5th on head to head. Either way it was a very disappointing league yet again with no improvement despite what some on here will undoubtedly try to claim. 2 wins 1 against a louth team gone back from where they were last year and a kildare team that everyone in the division beat pretty comfortably so we'd be as well off discounting that one.
Big championship coming up for the team and management. Need to win the first game no excuses. Draw a line through the dublin game obviously then into the all ireland series where we need to see improvement where we semi compete with the big dogs even for 40/45 minutes like we did in the Super 8s a few years . Then hopefully catch one of the lower tier top teams like Roscommon or Monaghan on the hop and beat them which might land us in 3rd and in the preliminary 1/4.
If the championship season played out like that I'd see it as a reasonably successful campaign" Would agree with majority of post and to be honest would have been happy enough to survive in Division Two. Little real evidence to suggest we would do much better. Focus now on getting past Longford with no excuse acceptable. Dublin are playing great football at present with the likes of Fenton, Kilkenny and COC back to their very best so its all about our ability to bounce back for A/I series. Can we be competive there? Hard to see with our scoring average, in or around 12 points per game. Its a free shot to play at a higher level and a chance for management, but especially players to show they have the ability to push on. A prelim. quater final would be a good result.
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Replying To Blackspot09: "There are some tables showing us finishing 6th and some showing us finishing 5th. I'd be fairly sure you are correct and we finished 5th on head to head. Either way it was a very disappointing league yet again with no improvement despite what some on here will undoubtedly try to claim. 2 wins 1 against a louth team gone back from where they were last year and a kildare team that everyone in the division beat pretty comfortably so we'd be as well off discounting that one.
Big championship coming up for the team and management. Need to win the first game no excuses. Draw a line through the dublin game obviously then into the all ireland series where we need to see improvement where we semi compete with the big dogs even for 40/45 minutes like we did in the Super 8s a few years . Then hopefully catch one of the lower tier top teams like Roscommon or Monaghan on the hop and beat them which might land us in 3rd and in the preliminary 1/4.
If the championship season played out like that I'd see it as a reasonably successful campaign" I have asked about the position re beating louth yet they ahead of us. Apparently it is us 6th in league position as it's score difference when it's just for position with nothing at stake . However it would be Meath ahead should it have been for promotion or relegation. Typical Gaa stuff.
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Looking at championship there could have been a possibility of been in Tailteann again this year only for winning it last year. So from my view that shows no improvement yet. And really those celebrating not been relegated is bizarre situation and shows we have gone soft. Colm's interview where he was happier that the winning manager after been hammered by 8 points is very worrying. Also this talk of 26/27 I think calls into question his role , it's all about kicking the can down the road , and trying to buy himself time. He's been a huge disappointment so far. Not in results per se but in his attitude and the embarrassing excuses still using sigerson etc. some fella said online that next excuse will be the dog ate the player's homework. So it's becoming very embarrassing more so than even Andy going on about refs. But I'm forever the hopeful one. And I hope for a clear win against Longford and a decent showing against a Dublin team reinvigorated and showing what can be done when rebuilding. Mcguinness took over a Donegal side in a very bad way and turned them around very quickly Colm is in his second year and as yet there has been no improvement since he came in. The review will be interesting should our championship not fire. Hopefully it will. We need Morris back and both the Ryan's. Gray is gone for the year by looks of it. Jones showed some old spark last night and Conlon showed he could be a good sub late on in game. Walsh still not up to fitness. Hopefully Costello is ok.
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