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I wouldn't be too critical of Dunshaughlin. I thought this was a year too soon for them to win a senior championship UsernameInvalid (Meath) - Posts: 409 - 03/11/2024 22:56:33 2578241 Link 0 |
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The Meath championship, for all its faults, is a lot more competitive than most other Leinster county championships. We've had four different winners in the last four years. Contrast that to the Westmeath championship which has had four different winners in 16 years, you can see how centralised it is. Even expanding it out to the turn of the century, in Westmeath there have been only 6 different winners in that time compared to 11 in Meath. It's a bad result, no doubt about that, but I'd say Dunshaughlin won't give a damn at the end of the day having won the Keegan Cup. Lomans have won 7 of the last 10 of their county championships so I'd assume that their ambitions are a bit loftier. Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1374 - 04/11/2024 07:07:56 2578255 Link 0 |
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I fully agree with you. This team had 1 aged 19, 2 aged 20, 6 aged 21, 1 aged 22 and 3 aged 23. They overachieved this year in Meath. Judge them in 2/3 years when they are at their prime loyalroyal27 (Meath) - Posts: 2 - 04/11/2024 08:21:43 2578261 Link 1 |
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hahahahahaha this aged like milk
Bluelake (Westmeath) - Posts: 185 - 04/11/2024 08:59:46 2578267 Link 1 |
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A bit of perspective in relation to Meath club's performances in Leinster, During the Meath football golden years from 1986 to 2001, Seneschalstown were the only Meath club to reach a Leinster club final (in 1994). In the last 13 renditions of the Leinster club SFC, Meath champions have fallen at the first hurdle on eight occasions. Not since Skryne in 2004 have a Meath team even reached a final. Dunshaughlin won it in 2002, Walterstown in 1980 & 1983 & Summerhill in 1977. A bit of perspective in relation to St. Loman's, they have won eight of the last twelve Westmeath titles and only lost out in in extra time in the Leinster semifinal last year. Dunshaughlin on the other hand had twelve under 23's on the pitch yesterday and won their first Meath SFC this year since 2002. Dunshaughlin did not play well yesterday but the loss of their best performing player in the Meath SFC, Ruairi Kinsella (who got injured in the 5th minute) was a very big blow early on and although it may not have made a difference to the result, it was significant. madmeath (Meath) - Posts: 84 - 04/11/2024 09:12:59 2578270 Link 2 |
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I would slightly disagree. Ratoath 2 years ago were beaten by a point by the Downs in the Leinster semi final and probably should have won it. Looking at our senior clubs record over the last 25 years I would argue that was making headway.
Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1012 - 04/11/2024 09:58:19 2578284 Link 0 |
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I would agree that they should have won it, they had been the dominant team in Meath for 4 years at that stage and it was a great chance to beat the Downs who hadn't won a SFC in Westmeath in a long time. Look back at the last 10 years of Leinster club football and we haven't made a dent. 2015 - O Mahonys lost to Emmets from Longford 2016 - Simonstown lost to Rhode by 3 points which wasn't too bad as they had just won their first championship and were playing the Offaly kingpins 2017 - Simonstown beat Starlights and then lost to Lomans by 2 points 2018 - Dunboyne beat Shelmaliers who from what I remember won their first Wexford title and then got hammered by KC 2019 - Ratoath lost to a strong Garrycastle side after winning their first senior championship 2020 - Not played 2021 - Wolfe Tones lost to KC by 4 points who went on to win Leinster 2022 - Ratoath beat Rhode which was a good win and then lost to the Downs. 2023 - Summerhill beat Tullamore which was a decent win and them crashed out to a very good Naas side. 2024 - Dunshaughlin hammered by Lomans who have dominated Westmeath and will have their eye on Leinster. We have won 4 matches in the last 10 years at Leinster Senior Club level. We haven't put back to back victories in at all and no club has won 2 matches either. For this year's Leinster Club Championship I think it is between Ardee, Lomans and Naas. Cuala will be very strong as well but think with KC gone it opens the door. UsernameInvalid (Meath) - Posts: 409 - 04/11/2024 10:56:30 2578286 Link 3 |
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And speaking of Naas, last year Summerhill eventually lost to Naas but were 'in the game' until well into the second half. Maybe that was a one-off as we have struggled for years now. The last really unlucky team was probably Wolfe Tones when they could and should have beaten Kilmacud but for the very harsh sending off of Cian Ward. Ratoath also put in a decent shift v The Downs.
MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1080 - 04/11/2024 11:13:34 2578292 Link 0 |
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Had a look back at the list of club All-Ireland finalists and provincial winners just to see what serious counties, if any, had as poor a record as Meath in the senior club championship. Just looked at results since 2000. The only comparative county was Tyrone. I was surprised to see they last won Ulster in 2002, and only reached one Ulster club final since then. So same recent record as Meath this century, albeit in a far tougher provincial championship. Donegal haven't been great either, a single provincial title this century and 3 provincial final losses. But beyond that any team at Tier 1 or with serious Tier 1 ambitions are consistently going deep in the senior club championship. MeathAbroad (Meath) - Posts: 101 - 05/11/2024 09:53:18 2578425 Link 1 |
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Senior Championship Rankings after finish of 2024 Championship. madmeath (Meath) - Posts: 84 - 19/11/2024 22:23:06 2580381 Link 0 |
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That table is totally irrelevant because of the difference in the quality of the teams in the various groupings. Dunshaughlin, Summerhill and Donaghmore Ashbourne were all in the same group and all the games between these 3 teams could have gone either way. Any of these 3 teams would have breezed through any of the other groups.
kingofclubs (Meath) - Posts: 330 - 20/11/2024 10:30:48 2580411 Link 0 |
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Hence why the draws should be seeded, semi finalists from previous year in pot 1. Beaten Q finalists in pot 2, third place teams in pot 3 and Intermediate winners plus 3 bottom teams in pot 4
Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1494 - 20/11/2024 14:45:56 2580462 Link 4 |
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Surely the seeding of championship is a no brainer, i cant see a downside. Also having the two winners of R1 play each other in R2 makes complete sense to me. The third place into relegation I get is a money thing. Yes you get 4 extra games but it leads to more dead rubbers in the group stage which have very low attendance. Be great if Meath Co Board decided to put the wish of the players and clubs ahead of a few extra quid. mlc800 (Meath) - Posts: 61 - 20/11/2024 21:59:03 2580505 Link 2 |
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Ridiculous ranking this is well more accurate: 1. Dunshaughlin 2. Dunboyne 3. Summerhill 4. Wolfe Tones 5. Ratoath 6. Ashbourne 7. Skryne 8. Gaeil Colmcille 9. Simonstown 10. St. Colmcilles 11. Trim 12. Na Fianna 13. Rathkenny 14. Ballinabrackey 15. Seneschalstown 16. Curraha Meathboyos86 (Meath) - Posts: 31 - 21/11/2024 08:47:50 2580527 Link 1 |
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How do you come up with that ranking, the league is the best form guide.
latouche25 (Meath) - Posts: 540 - 21/11/2024 12:11:51 2580557 Link 0 |
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The league is definitely not the best form guide. Teams playing league games without county players which could be up to 4 or 5 including lads on the u20s playing against teams at full strength because they have nobody on the county panels. Teams missing 4 or 5 starters in game because of weekends away or holidays playing teams who have nobody away on that weekend. The league is not an accurate form guide at all. The bracks got to the Division 1 A League final and then ended up staying in the senior championship by the absolute skin of their teeth in the relegation final . You couldn't be more wrong on this one. Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1012 - 21/11/2024 13:53:40 2580573 Link 1 |
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Anyone know why the seeding was voted against last night? Resoundingly defeated was how Meath Gaa socials described it. Only downside being that weaker teams can't get a lucky draw and end up in a semi final they don't belong in. Maybe I'm missing something. Great to go back to only the bottom team into relegation. Last thing players want is extra relegation games in September/October. mlc800 (Meath) - Posts: 61 - 21/11/2024 14:34:09 2580585 Link 0 |
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Crazy decision, even if you are a so called weaker team at least you have an even structure across groups, take the Bracks. Got a very tough draw in the last two years. If done we would see Pot 1 Dunshaughlin, Dunboyne, Skryne, Tones Pot 2 Ratoath, Simonstown, Summerhill, Cilles Pot 3 Kells, Don Ash, Na Fianna, Trim Pot 4 Bracks, Meath hill, Seneschalstown. Rathkenny Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1494 - 21/11/2024 15:25:30 2580602 Link 1 |
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Voted against because it was described as elitist and only for the benefit of the bigger clubs. Other comments such it was starting to take the edge off the championship.
Rickoshay (Meath) - Posts: 33 - 21/11/2024 17:44:23 2580628 Link 0 |
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Based off opinion, as Blackspot said u are way off on this one
Meathboyos86 (Meath) - Posts: 31 - 21/11/2024 17:53:10 2580630 Link 0 |