Most of the teams in group 2 are only intermediate standard. Clubs need to accept this and the whole meath hurling championship needs to be reviewed. Realistically 2 groups of 5 and top 2 in each group to semis. Bottom team in each group to relegation play off.
Realistically some teams need to go intermediate for example two of longwood, dunderry and boardsmill.
Foley91 (Meath) - Posts: 418 - 04/07/2023 13:45:08
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Sorry my bad. Boardsmill are gone down intermediate so maybe 2 from Longwood, Blackhall Gaels and Dunderry. This isnt a slight on these clubs but some pain has to be taken. If they are good enough for senior they will be back up.
It will also make intermediate more competitive where at the moment trims and kildalkeys 2nd teams are some of the strongest teals which cant be right.
Foley91 (Meath) - Posts: 418 - 04/07/2023 14:03:05
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Going back to mixed groups of 6, or groups of 4 won't add any more urgency into the SHC groups.
Are Trim, Kildalkey or Kiltale going to fret about getting 2 or 3 wins vs. Longwood, Blackhall Gaels, Dunderry etc?
We need to cut at least 2 teams from the SHC.
CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1668 - 04/07/2023 18:56:17
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its always a bit rubbish when you see second teams doing too well in intermediate, it kills likes of Tones ,Kells and Kilskyre/Moylagh where meath hurling people should be delighted to see game grow. or maybe they dont really care about those clubs. i think Trim won the intermediate in late 90s .
dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 790 - 04/07/2023 19:12:12
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While i dont think any second team will win the intermediate i think some of the intermediate clubs don't put enough focus on the league and cups and hence are not championship ready when the time comes, clubs like Rathmoylan, longwood, don/ash, kilskyre and gael colmcille playing div 3 and looking to win inter champ wont work for the most part. Think Kilskyre are the only div 3 inter team who look to be progressing but they cant be without any player especially their county lads, think they will have a big say in the intermediate this year assuming no players are travelling. Would like to see a bit more cut throat in the Senior A, 4 from 6 to qualify is to many.
pixey (Meath) - Posts: 60 - 05/07/2023 12:47:53
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Replying To Foley91: "Most of the teams in group 2 are only intermediate standard. Clubs need to accept this and the whole meath hurling championship needs to be reviewed. Realistically 2 groups of 5 and top 2 in each group to semis. Bottom team in each group to relegation play off.
Realistically some teams need to go intermediate for example two of longwood, dunderry and boardsmill." Totally agree. I think at the time the championship was switched up Kiltale were head and above most and the rest were all on their day capable of pulling a result on their day. When it first came in it seemed to work for a year or two. Today however the likes of trim, kildalkey and kiltale and perhaps ratoath, have all moved onto another level leaving the rest far behind. Id like to see your format and perhaps get double header, home and away going so the lads getting good amount of games and bringing some bite to them.
Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 642 - 05/07/2023 15:04:56
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Trim v Kiltale: Trim have a winning edge to them nowadays, Trim by 5. Kilmessan v Clann na Gael: Kilmessan to edge it by the minimum, nothing between the two teams. Drumree v Navan : Drumree by 3, Navan are a better team this year than previous years, just think Drumree will have a bit more bite. Rathmolyan v Boardsmill : Hard to call, Boardsmill hit hard with lads travelling it seems, if Dixon Hatton and Gibbons are all available to them, Boardsmill by 2.
Saturday
Ratoath V Killyon: Ratoath taking the foot off the gas in hurling possibly and Killyon will be waiting to take advantage, not sure they can though, Draw. Kildalkey v Na Fianna: Rathmolyan the venue makes it all to play for here I think, Na Fianna always close to top teams in championship hurling, just think they will fall short, Kildalkey by the minimum. Dunboyne v Longwood: Longwood playing division 3 hurling and it will show here, No Healy will really twist the knife, dunboyne by 10. Blackhall V Dunderry: Relegation decider here, whitty a huge loss for blackhall, with him they stay up, without him I'm not so sure, Dunderry by 4. Dunboyne v Kilskyre: Kilskyre are improving big time and are underdogs for the intermediate championship, fancy them to put down a statement win here, Kilskyre by 12. Ashbourne v Kilmessan: You'd always back the first team to have enough, Ashbourne by 3. Trim v Wolfe Tones: Will keogan and o Reilly play? Tones by 1 if so.
Sunday
Kildalkey v Kells: Kildalkey have a strong second team, are always pushing for a play off spot, Kells need to be on top of their game if they want a result, Kildalkey by 2
ClashofAsh85 (Meath) - Posts: 20 - 06/07/2023 12:50:58
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Tonight's the start .
SHC Trim v kiltale - Trim by 4 Kilmessan v CNG - CNG by 6
IHC Drumree V NOM - Drumree by 2 Rathmoylan v Boardsmill - Rathmoylan by 7
Joe_soap1 (Meath) - Posts: 84 - 07/07/2023 10:47:56
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SHC Trim v kiltale - Trim - Trim are flying and Kiltale are mid-stream so Trim by 10 Kilmessan v Clan na Gael - Clan na Gael they have had there league win and are building - Clan by 4 Ratoath v Killyon - Ratoath they can do the business and had a good league - Ratoath by 6 Kildalkey v Na Fianna - This will be the match of the weekend and the two team are similar - Draw Dunboyne v Longwood - Dunboyne might just have the edge - Dunboyne by 5 Blackhall v Dunderry - Blackhall if they keep there focus as Dunderry have had to many players gone to make an impact -Blackhall by 5
Trim to win Senior
IHC Drumree V Navan O'Mahonys - Drumree are physical and gave Clan na Gael a game for 40min in the league final - Drumree by 7 Rathmoylan v Boardsmill - As mentioned Boardsmill are struggling - Rathmoylan by 8
Rathmoylan for Intermediate
ALLGAA32 (Meath) - Posts: 64 - 07/07/2023 12:26:23
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Trim v Kiltale: Trim by four after a tight enough game. Kilmessan v Clann na Gael: Think Clann na Gael are looking fairly good so them by 1. Drumree v Navan : Drumree have enough experienced lads to see this one out. Drumree by 2 Rathmolyan v Boardsmill : Rathmolyon should be winning this and in reality, the intermediate championship. Rathmolyon by 4
Saturday
Ratoath V Killyon: Cóin flíp, but going for Kiltale.
Kildalkey v Na Fianna: Not too sure what to make of Kildalkey so far, but still fancy them to get out by 4 Dunboyne v Longwood: Easiest one to call for the weekend. Dunboyne by 10.
Blackhall V Dunderry: Blackhall by 2 Dunboyne v Kilskyre: Kilskyre looked very poor at times in the league, but that was without the county lads. Should be comfortable here, by 8. Ashbourne v Kilmessan: Ashbourne unlucky in the Div 3 final but Kilmessan beat them handy enough last year. Draw Trim v Wolfe Tones: Tones by 4
Kildalkey v Kells: Giving this to Kildalkey but wouldn't be surprised if Kells smelt an upset
RR (Meath) - Posts: 165 - 07/07/2023 16:13:41
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We couldn't even make it through one round of the hurling championship without a walkover.
RR (Meath) - Posts: 165 - 08/07/2023 09:49:53
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Three Senior and two Intermediate games clash with the Limerick v Galway game this evening. Something seriously wrong here. It's either stupidity or complete disregard for the clubs and the code involved.
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Replying To MillerX: "Three Senior and two Intermediate games clash with the Limerick v Galway game this evening. Something seriously wrong here. It's either stupidity or complete disregard for the clubs and the code involved." That happened last year too only with Clare and Kilkenny in the AISF, so nice to see they changed it to the other one this year!
RR (Meath) - Posts: 165 - 08/07/2023 12:16:48
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Replying To RR: "We couldn't even make it through one round of the hurling championship without a walkover." this is unbelieveable stuff, shame on them
pixey (Meath) - Posts: 60 - 08/07/2023 12:59:28
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Replying To MillerX: "Three Senior and two Intermediate games clash with the Limerick v Galway game this evening. Something seriously wrong here. It's either stupidity or complete disregard for the clubs and the code involved." as for this, its laughable, is there any cop on within the fixtures committe, also should finance not be saying something here,
pixey (Meath) - Posts: 60 - 08/07/2023 13:01:42
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Replying To RR: "We couldn't even make it through one round of the hurling championship without a walkover." It's always amusing how a team can have 25 players for the previous year's junior/junior 2 final, and then can't even find 15 players once they're to play a higher grade a few months later...
CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1668 - 08/07/2023 15:12:06
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They had 3 championship teams last year. What is going on over there?
hurlit (Meath) - Posts: 425 - 09/07/2023 19:37:27
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Leave the Cup min trim, Kiltale are a spent force, no young quality coming through, ratoath should have been beaten by Killyon who are no world beaters, Na Fianna had kildalkey bet but couldnt see it out, dont think trim will lose a game from here on. next round, Kiltale v Ratoath, ratoath to win by 5, Killyon V kildalkey, kildalkey win a tight affair again, Na Fianna V trim, trim to win handy, 6 plus,
intermediate is a joke, walkover, second team winning by 20 plus, hurling in this county has gone through the crossroads and taken the wrong turn, county board dont care about the small ball. no plan, no investment and not one of the top table will push hurling despite been supposedlly hurling people. rant over
pixey (Meath) - Posts: 60 - 10/07/2023 09:52:27
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First Round wrapped up, a lot of teams know exactly where they are now. SHC Trim will take a lot of stopping and I can't see anybody stopping them, Kiltale we're missing a lot of big names, if they don't return they could find themselves without a knockout spot. Kildalkey most likely will get second in this group, I fancy Na Fianna to also get a qtr final place. Either team could have won this game with 5 minutes to go. Killyon won't be out of their depth in the group but like the weekend they will have a lot of unlucky small margin losses. Clann na Gael and Kilmessan will come through the B group. Dunderry probably favourites for the drop, but between longwood, blackhall and dunboyne, all of these teams can beat eachother, dunboyne look disappointing and probably should have been beaten.
IHC Boardsmill gave Rathmolyon a reality check at the weekend, a lot of people expecting an easy win for the village on here. Seems like Boardsmill aren't as struggling as they made themselves out to be ? Drumree still look strong and they will be desperate to finally get their hands on the cup at the end of the year, they need to find consistency before they do that. Kildalkeys second string will surely get weaker as the championship continues, kells will struggle to get a win in the A group. Disappointing from dunboynes seconds, Kilskyre will be raring to get going in the next round and will have a big say after topping group B. Don't think any other team are in the conversation for the intermediate.
ClashofAsh85 (Meath) - Posts: 20 - 10/07/2023 11:19:27
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Replying To ClashofAsh85: "First Round wrapped up, a lot of teams know exactly where they are now. SHC Trim will take a lot of stopping and I can't see anybody stopping them, Kiltale we're missing a lot of big names, if they don't return they could find themselves without a knockout spot. Kildalkey most likely will get second in this group, I fancy Na Fianna to also get a qtr final place. Either team could have won this game with 5 minutes to go. Killyon won't be out of their depth in the group but like the weekend they will have a lot of unlucky small margin losses. Clann na Gael and Kilmessan will come through the B group. Dunderry probably favourites for the drop, but between longwood, blackhall and dunboyne, all of these teams can beat eachother, dunboyne look disappointing and probably should have been beaten.
IHC Boardsmill gave Rathmolyon a reality check at the weekend, a lot of people expecting an easy win for the village on here. Seems like Boardsmill aren't as struggling as they made themselves out to be ? Drumree still look strong and they will be desperate to finally get their hands on the cup at the end of the year, they need to find consistency before they do that. Kildalkeys second string will surely get weaker as the championship continues, kells will struggle to get a win in the A group. Disappointing from dunboynes seconds, Kilskyre will be raring to get going in the next round and will have a big say after topping group B. Don't think any other team are in the conversation for the intermediate." I believe Kildalkey still have players to come back, who can play 2nd team. I wouldn't write them off yet.
TownJohnT (Meath) - Posts: 86 - 11/07/2023 10:09:31
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