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Replying To 199710:  "Still no panel released,"
Released this morning on the Meath gaa website.

SillySimonsOpinion (Meath) - Posts: 24 - 28/03/2024 11:12:31    2534260

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Replying To FBF:  "Heard lots of that team are out injured, for Westmeath you'd have to have the likes of Charlie o Connor and John Finnerty starting.
Two of them both playing with the 20s last year and a bit of faith in some of the new lads Conor Duke has had a good preseason leading up to this game. Lads like Tom Bowden getting back fit is a bonus, adds a bit of experience to the team."
The big injury list must be the reason for the 37 man panel ? Maybe I'm wrong but thats seems like an extraordinary large panel .

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 870 - 28/03/2024 11:30:23    2534266

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Replying To Blackspot09:  "The big injury list must be the reason for the 37 man panel ? Maybe I'm wrong but thats seems like an extraordinary large panel ."
Typically a 34 man panel I think, carrying 37 lads to make up for the injuries in the squad

SillySimonsOpinion (Meath) - Posts: 24 - 28/03/2024 12:42:24    2534285

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Best of luck to the team, management and everyone else involved behind the scenes in the U20 setup. Hoping for a win and moving on, that's all we need.

SillySimonsOpinion (Meath) - Posts: 24 - 02/04/2024 13:08:06    2535175

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Only 5 lads starting tonight for the U20's that played in the minor All Ireland a few years ago and then we wonder why Meath football is the way it is. A lack of development across the board...

199710 (Meath) - Posts: 120 - 02/04/2024 13:12:34    2535177

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Replying To 199710:  "Only 5 lads starting tonight for the U20's that played in the minor All Ireland a few years ago and then we wonder why Meath football is the way it is. A lack of development across the board..."
You can argue this point both ways. Maybe there has been development of players who weren't on the minor panel...

Also I think injuries has a lot to do with this anyway.

TakeYourPoints6 (Meath) - Posts: 230 - 02/04/2024 13:26:11    2535180

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Replying To 199710:  "Only 5 lads starting tonight for the U20's that played in the minor All Ireland a few years ago and then we wonder why Meath football is the way it is. A lack of development across the board..."
If we're going to start with lads that are U18, yes if you're old enough, you're good enough, they will be ate alive by Dublin next week. I'd be really surprised if there is not a heap of changes to that team.

summerof09 (Meath) - Posts: 315 - 02/04/2024 13:52:11    2535184

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Replying To 199710:  "Only 5 lads starting tonight for the U20's that played in the minor All Ireland a few years ago and then we wonder why Meath football is the way it is. A lack of development across the board..."
Still counting about 20 lads on this panel that were apart of that minor all ireland panel. lot of injuries clearly and lads to come back. All players develop differently from minor to 20s, totally different level

SillySimonsOpinion (Meath) - Posts: 24 - 02/04/2024 14:09:52    2535186

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Best of luck to the 20s tonight, a lot of injuries is worrying. I think we will be very reliant of John Harkin and Cian Commons for scores. Both are only 18 years old. Half back line named to start today looks very strong.

Sheridan2010louth (Meath) - Posts: 143 - 02/04/2024 14:32:22    2535194

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Wishing the very best of luck to the u20s Management and team tonight Vs Westmeath

TheRoyalTribesman (Meath) - Posts: 7 - 02/04/2024 15:10:55    2535200

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Best of luck to management and players tonight , young team but I believe that's mostly due to injuries and some lads only getting back up to sharpness most notably, kelly, ennis ,leonard emmanuel. Perhaps chance for other younger players to step up.
excited to see Eamonn Armstrong and Cian Commons too.

TravellingRoyal (Meath) - Posts: 1 - 02/04/2024 15:20:52    2535205

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Replying To 199710:  "Only 5 lads starting tonight for the U20's that played in the minor All Ireland a few years ago and then we wonder why Meath football is the way it is. A lack of development across the board..."
Minor team:
1.Oisin McDermott (starting)
2.Conor Ennis (injuried)
3.Liam Kelly (injured)
4.Sean O'Hare (starting)
5.Tomas Corbett (Injuried)
6.John O'regan (starting)
7.Killian Smyth (starting)
8.Jack Kinlough (starting)
9.Paul Wilson (Rugby)
10.Shaun Leonard (injuried)
11.Sean Emmanuel (injuried)
12.Conor McWeeney (injuried)
13.Hughie Corcoran (on panel)
14.Oisín O'Murchu (didn't make it)
15.Christian Finley (injuried)

Only 2 of the starting 15 not on the panel this year. Injuries taking over but hopefully a few of them lads will be back for next week. Not the mention the development of brian o'halloran who didn't make that team, Rian McConnell also.

redracoon (Meath) - Posts: 55 - 02/04/2024 16:10:55    2535217

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It also has to be said that some of the young lads who aren't starting aren't playing regularly with their first team through no fault of their own. Kelly with Ratoath is a prime example he's competing against 3 of the best defenders in the county for a starting birth.

UsernameInvalid (Meath) - Posts: 355 - 02/04/2024 17:55:01    2535236

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A good win and had the work done in the first half, leaked a few too many goal chances and Dublin next week won't let us off the hook like Westmeath did. But we looked like a fairly well coached team and played with good intent and intensity. We now have a free shot at Dublin and can test where we're at. Win the game and we're in a semi final. Lose the game and we play the winners of Laois or Wicklow in a quarter final. Hopefully some of the injured players can make their way back to fitness too

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1465 - 02/04/2024 22:47:32    2535289

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Thoughts after that, not the best performance but still 18 scores to 7. Better team, Murphy up front was very dangerous ran out of stem in the finish. O'Halloran good carried a mountain of ball for them wasn't really challenged inside too much. Extremely open down the middle they ran through are half back line very easy. Midfield strong and good in the air O'Connor good find. Overall good to get over the line in first outing of u20

Unitedroyal (Meath) - Posts: 6 - 02/04/2024 22:56:56    2535292

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I was a bit worried going into the game with the amount of injuries but was really happy with the performance. I like the mix O'Bric has with primarily the 2021 minors who won an all ireland, the 2022 minors where Jamie Murphy and Rian Stafford had excellent games kicking 10 points between them, and finally the 2023 minors where I thought Cian Commons and Eamon Armstrong played well.

Sheridan2010louth (Meath) - Posts: 143 - 03/04/2024 07:52:24    2535310

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A good win but if you look at the stats its extremely worrying. Westmeath hit the crossbar and the post in each half, kicked 5 balls into the keepers hands from less than 25 yards. And Killian Smith cleared one off the line that went over for a point.

Some of these lads haven't even played adult football and you could see it last night. We were slow to make subs when lads were struggling, We were cut open by a very average team on the night, Midfield was cleaned out in the second half. Westmeath only converted 28% of there chances which if they had improved that stat which they easily could have then its a different story. Id have different opinions of lads who played well. There is a big difference between running around and carrying the ball into channels and creating the attack and you saw that with a number of lads last night average in attack and at defending. Westmeath's attacks in the first half all came down the stand side and were allowed inside our 45 yard very easily. A lot's been said about the injured lads when they come back, some of these lads haven't kicked a ball or played in months so the championship could be over before it starts for them. They should be released back to their clubs to play next week and get ready for either the semi of the quarter final. Anyone that has played or who coaches will know you need a few games to get the eye in, nothing beats games to bring your fitness up. It was already mentioned that some of these lads didn't play much ball with there clubs so that's another issue for management, do they go with the name or with the form player.

Our defence was extremely poor last night and we couldn't cope with them running at us and I'm sure Dublin management were there last night and they would have saw that. We broke far to many balls which seemed to be the game plan. We had big men inside and we only kicked in a few long balls. I think there will be a few places up for grabs next week especially in the backs and one or two in the half forward line. The question is will the management team do what is right or stick with the same going into the Dublin game.

199710 (Meath) - Posts: 120 - 03/04/2024 09:05:39    2535322

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Replying To 199710:  "A good win but if you look at the stats its extremely worrying. Westmeath hit the crossbar and the post in each half, kicked 5 balls into the keepers hands from less than 25 yards. And Killian Smith cleared one off the line that went over for a point.

Some of these lads haven't even played adult football and you could see it last night. We were slow to make subs when lads were struggling, We were cut open by a very average team on the night, Midfield was cleaned out in the second half. Westmeath only converted 28% of there chances which if they had improved that stat which they easily could have then its a different story. Id have different opinions of lads who played well. There is a big difference between running around and carrying the ball into channels and creating the attack and you saw that with a number of lads last night average in attack and at defending. Westmeath's attacks in the first half all came down the stand side and were allowed inside our 45 yard very easily. A lot's been said about the injured lads when they come back, some of these lads haven't kicked a ball or played in months so the championship could be over before it starts for them. They should be released back to their clubs to play next week and get ready for either the semi of the quarter final. Anyone that has played or who coaches will know you need a few games to get the eye in, nothing beats games to bring your fitness up. It was already mentioned that some of these lads didn't play much ball with there clubs so that's another issue for management, do they go with the name or with the form player.

Our defence was extremely poor last night and we couldn't cope with them running at us and I'm sure Dublin management were there last night and they would have saw that. We broke far to many balls which seemed to be the game plan. We had big men inside and we only kicked in a few long balls. I think there will be a few places up for grabs next week especially in the backs and one or two in the half forward line. The question is will the management team do what is right or stick with the same going into the Dublin game."
It definitely isn't worrying and definitely wouldn't read too much into next week either. Why not give the lads that are to come back next week an extra week off to recover, it's a free hit next week. Liam Kelly, Sean Emmanuel, Conor McWeeney, Shaun Leonard still to come into the mix. The aim last night was to win and that's all that was needed, a lot of pressure but on this group to perform last night with a lot of responsibility on lads who have 1 if not 2 more years at this grade. Guaranteed quarter final, winning thar should be the aim

SillySimonsOpinion (Meath) - Posts: 24 - 03/04/2024 10:32:10    2535341

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Replying To SillySimonsOpinion:  "It definitely isn't worrying and definitely wouldn't read too much into next week either. Why not give the lads that are to come back next week an extra week off to recover, it's a free hit next week. Liam Kelly, Sean Emmanuel, Conor McWeeney, Shaun Leonard still to come into the mix. The aim last night was to win and that's all that was needed, a lot of pressure but on this group to perform last night with a lot of responsibility on lads who have 1 if not 2 more years at this grade. Guaranteed quarter final, winning thar should be the aim"
Everything on here is about the lads that are missing and by accounts some wont even make it because of the nature of there injury. Its disrespectful to the lads that are fit and ready to play. I'm not saying that those lads are not good players far from it but integrating players back in who hasn't kicked a ball in months is not the easiest thing to do. Championships now a days are won with 30 odd lads and not just the 15 or 20 that are in the squad each week. Only time will tell but for me focus on who we have and anything after that is a bonus.

199710 (Meath) - Posts: 120 - 03/04/2024 13:10:45    2535362

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Replying To 199710:  "A good win but if you look at the stats its extremely worrying. Westmeath hit the crossbar and the post in each half, kicked 5 balls into the keepers hands from less than 25 yards. And Killian Smith cleared one off the line that went over for a point.

Some of these lads haven't even played adult football and you could see it last night. We were slow to make subs when lads were struggling, We were cut open by a very average team on the night, Midfield was cleaned out in the second half. Westmeath only converted 28% of there chances which if they had improved that stat which they easily could have then its a different story. Id have different opinions of lads who played well. There is a big difference between running around and carrying the ball into channels and creating the attack and you saw that with a number of lads last night average in attack and at defending. Westmeath's attacks in the first half all came down the stand side and were allowed inside our 45 yard very easily. A lot's been said about the injured lads when they come back, some of these lads haven't kicked a ball or played in months so the championship could be over before it starts for them. They should be released back to their clubs to play next week and get ready for either the semi of the quarter final. Anyone that has played or who coaches will know you need a few games to get the eye in, nothing beats games to bring your fitness up. It was already mentioned that some of these lads didn't play much ball with there clubs so that's another issue for management, do they go with the name or with the form player.

Our defence was extremely poor last night and we couldn't cope with them running at us and I'm sure Dublin management were there last night and they would have saw that. We broke far to many balls which seemed to be the game plan. We had big men inside and we only kicked in a few long balls. I think there will be a few places up for grabs next week especially in the backs and one or two in the half forward line. The question is will the management team do what is right or stick with the same going into the Dublin game."
Agreed defensively we were very open, our half back were non existent at stoping players coming through and although are wing forwards scored most of Westmeath attacks came through 5 and 7. The first goal was a disaster so early on, again the wing forward got a run on us. Second goal was a number of errors, I thought o Connor was doing well and the minute he went off his man scored the goal. Will have to work on this if we've a chance to turnover the dubs.

Mmmeath (Meath) - Posts: 12 - 03/04/2024 14:09:12    2535378

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