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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99: "Also the Kerry players did not do that. Peter Keane claimed he had the support of the players but there was very little to back up the claim" I'm not saying whether Andy does or not (have the support of the players) and maybe he's waiting til after tonight to air his opinions but his silence has also been deafening. jack O'Connor left Kildare and Keane came out and said i have the support of the players. Andy hasn't publicly spoken (and if he does after the vote I'll be interested to hear what he says) since the county board meeting. Keane was making those in Kerry football know he had player support and maybe something similar from Andy might've helped his case for being retained tonight. Keoghan and Menton are still the senior players on the panel and their words might've helped the case for him staying. Now maybe the players are sick of Andy and that's why we've heard nothing either (I'm not saying that's the case as Andy has worked with a lot of them previously at underage/club etc) With his son being the team captain it would be wise if Donal or Bryan were the one's to speak out on behalf of the squad after tonight's vote brian (Meath) - Posts: 1973 - 12/10/2021 14:48:29 2385381 Link
Replying To Blackspot09: "That worked out well for him!!! The majority of the Meath panel are fully behind the current management." The whole panel are behind Andy, don't think people grasp the potential repercussions of this, despite what ladoosh25's completely fabricated 2 sources have said dunboynelad (Meath) - Posts: 227 - 12/10/2021 14:49:19 2385383 Link
Replying To LeitrimRoyal99: "Also the Kerry players did not do that. Peter Keane claimed he had the support of the players but there was very little to back up the claim" What a mess created by the County board.! Andy should have been given the courtesy of a proper review, and outcome within a couple of weeks of our completion of the championship. Even though personally i believe he had a fair shot at the job ,and in my view time for him to move on. Why should he stay in these circumstaces ? Timing is disgraceful ,and we know who is resposible there. From observation i think Andy will respond to this insult by telling them to get stuffed, and walk away from a situation brough about by incompetence not on his part in this instance ! nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1266 - 12/10/2021 15:05:46 2385384 Link
Replying To dunboynelad: "The whole panel are behind Andy, don't think people grasp the potential repercussions of this, despite what ladoosh25's completely fabricated 2 sources have said" And of course you know this for a fact. What makes your "sources" any more credible? I'd maybe believe you if you gave a balanced opinion on Andy but we know you're incapable of doing so. You've tried to act like you're in the know before and were shown up for not being. And have a bit of respect for everyone's opinion? Labeling a poster as you have just shows up your poor debating. brian (Meath) - Posts: 1973 - 12/10/2021 15:09:54 2385385 Link
Replying To Jinxie: "Do you know for a fact they havent? I'd expect the statements read out before tonights vote will contradict your comment" The statement, so you know they have?? latouche25 (Meath) - Posts: 540 - 12/10/2021 15:18:31 2385388 Link
Worth noting also as not sure if it's been said, it only requires 40% of the vote from clubs for Andy to remain tonight rather than it being a 50/50 majority wins - this is due to the executives vote of no confidence needing needing 60% dunboynelad (Meath) - Posts: 227 - 12/10/2021 15:19:47 2385389 Link
Replying To dunboynelad: "I don't know why anyone pays any heed to lakells25 - lie after lie to fit his embarrassing agenda, should be completely ignored. Hopefully the clubs do the right thing tonight so we don't wake up tomorrow being the laughing stock of the country and 2022 being a write off. We can then ask serious questions on the executive and the **show they caused another day." Why don't you elaborate on the accusation of me telling lie after lie. Point them out. latouche25 (Meath)** - Posts: 540 - 12/10/2021 15:23:30 2385390 Link
Replying To Jinxie: "Do you know for a fact they havent? I'd expect the statements read out before tonights vote will contradict your comment" Sure he doesn't even know for a fact that the kerry players sent a letter of support to the Kerry County Board. There is no evidence of any letter being sent to the CB. Peter Keane claimed he had the support but again no Kerry player came out and publicly confirmed this. Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1012 - 12/10/2021 15:37:55 2385394 Link
Replying To dunboynelad: "The whole panel are behind Andy, don't think people grasp the potential repercussions of this, despite what ladoosh25's completely fabricated 2 sources have said" You sound very desperate. I asked why no players came out in support of him. You say the whole panel are behind him but show no evidence of this. I didn't say I have 2 sources that the panel are not behind him. What I did say was that 2 players said they would play for him again. Why don't you read my posts properly. latouche25 (Meath) - Posts: 540 - 12/10/2021 15:41:51 2385395 Link
Replying To brian: "And of course you know this for a fact. What makes your "sources" any more credible? I'd maybe believe you if you gave a balanced opinion on Andy but we know you're incapable of doing so. You've tried to act like you're in the know before and were shown up for not being. And have a bit of respect for everyone's opinion? Labeling a poster as you have just shows up your poor debating." The players as a whole are behind Andy but there is 1 or 2 things they would not agree with him onand would like to c improved royal1967 (Meath) - Posts: 293 - 12/10/2021 15:50:00 2385398 Link
Replying To nobull456: "What a mess created by the County board.! Andy should have been given the courtesy of a proper review, and outcome within a couple of weeks of our completion of the championship. Even though personally i believe he had a fair shot at the job ,and in my view time for him to move on. Why should he stay in these circumstaces ? Timing is disgraceful ,and we know who is resposible there. From observation i think Andy will respond to this insult by telling them to get stuffed, and walk away from a situation brough about by incompetence not on his part in this instance !" He has said with backing of clubs, "myself and the management team will be back at work on Wednesday morning for the good of Meath football." No way he will go. seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2196 - 12/10/2021 15:55:12 2385400 Link
Replying To LeitrimRoyal99: "Colm Parkinson's Joe.ie GAA podcast today calling out the stupidity of our county board. Same with Tommy Rooney, Ger Gilroy and Eoin Sheehan on Off the ball. And from a more local perspective Davy Rispin and Mickey Brennan talking about the recklessness of it. Regardless of what you think about Andy McEntee, voting a manager out 3 months after the team has been knocked out and with players already working away on gym programs it is absolute lunacy to vote in a new manager. This discussion isn't even about whether it's the wrong decision to try and push out Andy. It's about the timing and the lack of a replacement. That's the embarrassing part of it" Chronicle now say, 2/3 majority needed to remove him. So looks like a safe bet to stay. seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2196 - 12/10/2021 16:02:52 2385401 Link
In 2012 all banty needed was 25 votes so not much has changed .... in more ways that 1 .. Andy easily get that Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 12/10/2021 16:18:41 2385403 Link
Replying To brian: "I'm not saying whether Andy does or not (have the support of the players) and maybe he's waiting til after tonight to air his opinions but his silence has also been deafening. jack O'Connor left Kildare and Keane came out and said i have the support of the players. Andy hasn't publicly spoken (and if he does after the vote I'll be interested to hear what he says) since the county board meeting. Keane was making those in Kerry football know he had player support and maybe something similar from Andy might've helped his case for being retained tonight. Keoghan and Menton are still the senior players on the panel and their words might've helped the case for him staying. Now maybe the players are sick of Andy and that's why we've heard nothing either (I'm not saying that's the case as Andy has worked with a lot of them previously at underage/club etc) With his son being the team captain it would be wise if Donal or Bryan were the one's to speak out on behalf of the squad after tonight's vote" I would imagine that the players are staying well away from making statements to the media and rightly so, but I am sure they are all advising their club delegates to support Andy in the vote. kingofclubs (Meath) - Posts: 330 - 12/10/2021 16:33:10 2385406 Link
The last thing I'll say on this before the vote. If anybody thinks that the Meath team would be better next year with a new manager appointed in November than with the continuity of Andy then a) you're really overeating the overall level of player around Meath or b) you dislike Andy so much that it's clouded your judgement. If the vote was in July between Andy and maybe a Colm O'Rourke then there would rightly be a fierce debate about it. To suggest Meath would be better in 2022 and then eventually in a better place for the minors of 2020&2021 to come into by replacing the manager with a phantom candidate in November is really not thinking straight. All prominent media members I've heard talk about this (Tommy Rooney, Anthony Moyles, Tommy Rooney, Fergal Lynch, Davy Rispin and Mickey Brennan, Colm Parkinson) share this viewpoint, stability and incremental improvements while building a team is what is required before the influx of the last 2 minor teams with their proper pathway to under 20's. Let's hope the club delegates don't embarrass us further and ruin any chance in 2022 tonight LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1527 - 12/10/2021 17:42:03 2385414 Link
Replying To latouche25: "The Kerry players sent a letter of support to the county board in support of Peter Keane. The Meath players have not." Are you sure about that ? As far as I am aware the players have sent a letter. As in Kerry's case it wasn't known until afterwards. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 12/10/2021 18:30:39 2385418 Link
Replying To Jinxie: "Do you know for a fact they havent? I'd expect the statements read out before tonights vote will contradict your comment" I expect the same. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 12/10/2021 18:31:28 2385419 Link
Replying To royal1967: "The players as a whole are behind Andy but there is 1 or 2 things they would not agree with him onand would like to c improved" I'd say that's probably a fair statement. Of course things need to be improved, but on the whole I think the vast majority of the players want him to continue for another year at this time of the year. They were all expecting him to be there and now for a process to be set up with someone maybe appointed in December is crazy. The players know this as does the vast majority of Meath supporters, if this was to be done, July or August was the time. Not now royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 12/10/2021 18:40:33 2385423 Link
Andy Stays!!!!! Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1012 - 12/10/2021 20:54:55 2385429 Link
Common sense prevails southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 938 - 12/10/2021 21:01:19 2385430 Link