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Replying To Royal.Legend:  "The only new additions i heard are McBride and the two Wallace brothers, plus we do have allot of injured players back so squad should be stronger then back in February, I'd imagine andy colgan will start in goals as he looked good in there for ashbourne this year."
Still no Kells player in the Squad.????

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4051 - 16/10/2020 15:21:53    2298100

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Replying To Fionn:  "Still no Kells player in the Squad.????"
Fionn Reilly maybe but I imagine he's gone back to his soccer club in Italy.

Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1352 - 16/10/2020 15:32:55    2298103

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Replying To Fionn:  "Still no Kells player in the Squad.????"
And rightly so. A good team without 1 county standard player would be how I'd describe kells.

southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 938 - 16/10/2020 16:04:45    2298118

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Replying To Fionn:  "Still no Kells player in the Squad.????"
It seems like a ridiculous thing to say but they dont have any individuals who massively stand out as being county material. They're still a very good team all the same, just dont have the type of player who typically makes a county set-up. I would agree for arguments sake that one or two should be tried, and in years past, others werent given a chance for reasons unknown.

Young_gael (Meath) - Posts: 596 - 16/10/2020 16:56:22    2298136

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Replying To Crinigan:  "Fionn Reilly maybe but I imagine he's gone back to his soccer club in Italy."
What about Seamus or Oisin.?

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4051 - 16/10/2020 17:07:43    2298137

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Replying To southmeathgael:  "And rightly so. A good team without 1 county standard player would be how I'd describe kells."
Not true at all. They've been the most consistent team in Meath this past 6 years. They've cleaned up in leagues and Feis cups which are more difficult to win (certainly the league). Any team can go on a lucky run in a championship, look at Simonstown in 2016. No win in their first 3 games. You don't get away with that in league football, you have to be ready to go every week. Take your eye off the ball and you'll find yourself in a relegation scrap

LoyalRoyal66 (Meath) - Posts: 85 - 16/10/2020 17:10:42    2298138

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May have missed someone but these have all been in on Meath senior panels at some stage of their time playing adult ball.

Justin Carry Lynch
Barry Tormay
Seamus Mattimoe
Beano Hanlon
Liam Ferguson

For whatever reason, none lasted.

jackhackett (Meath) - Posts: 773 - 16/10/2020 17:34:32    2298143

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Looks like no championship but the league games might be played. A bit of info below

It looks like Mickey Newman is retired from inter county with hip injury. A loss. Our two best years in recent years were 2013 and 2019. The only years Mickey Newman was available, basically full fit from injury. In 2013 he was very good in his debut year and got nominated for all star. 2014 2015 2016 2017, he suffered injuries every year and missed most league campaigns and was struggling with injuries. In 2018 took year off to get injuries sorted, came back as full forward last year, a kind of target man at times, hes more an inside forward. He was 4th top scorer in last years championship. Destroyed Donegal in league final in first half and was man of the match in our biggest game of the year v Clare where he scored 1 - 5. Very popular in the panel and he is an important player, a very good natural freetaker and he is a poacher finisher corner forward, a player who waits for break and good eye for goal. Had a good season for us last year leading the line. But with out and out target man full forward S Walsh I think that would have got the best out of Newman. Was looking forward to see him starting him with D Lenihan and S Walsh in full forward line this year. Thats our best full forward line, but its look like now they will never play with each other. Mickey Newman and lenihan have only started one game for Meath even though best inside forwards we have had in recent years.

Its means Shane Walsh will start v Dublin with I think with Thomas Reilly who was very good in early parts of league. With Lenihan Joey Wallace and James Conlon fighting for last place. I think Lenihan Walsh O Reilly will start our best option with J Wallace and J Conlon as impact subs. And young players like Jordan Morris and Jack O Connor as options of the bench with maybe Mark Sullivan. S Mattimoe would be worth looking at he had a great championship.

Meath played Cavan in a challenge game recently. Cavan game was a rough tough game. A proper tough local derby. Ronan Ryan played full back v Cavan. It looks like he could start there. As McGill and Rataoth lads are probaly not available. Lavin Ryan Toner were the full back line v Cavan. B Conlon was at centre back v Cavan I expect him to keep his place as Harnan was injured. Brennan started in goals in first half and Colgan in.second I think Colgan with start. No sign of J McEntee.

S McEntee was at midfield with Brian Menton with Ronan Jones Ethan Devine on 40. I think we will see that v Dubs with Menton B Conlon Jones Devine and McBride of bench giving us options for kickout, gives us real physicality which we lacked at centre field for years. I can see Jones Menton at midfield with Shane McEntee playing a more defensive role maybe come back sweeping up at times in the defence.
Mark Sullivan Moynalvey called up to the panel. Hes Cillians brother. Played in 2011 v kildare as a wing back in thechampionship. He has played very little since. Had a good year at full forward for Moynalvey. Could be worth looking at. And Duggie Dillon fron Navan O Mahoney also called up, an half forward. Cian McBride could be option from the bench. He made an impact with high fielding v Cavan.

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1067 - 16/10/2020 18:12:16    2298152

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Replying To LoyalRoyal66:  "Not true at all. They've been the most consistent team in Meath this past 6 years. They've cleaned up in leagues and Feis cups which are more difficult to win (certainly the league). Any team can go on a lucky run in a championship, look at Simonstown in 2016. No win in their first 3 games. You don't get away with that in league football, you have to be ready to go every week. Take your eye off the ball and you'll find yourself in a relegation scrap"
Fully agree - Seamus, Oisin or Fionn deserved a squad call up at least.

Aaron Lynch of Trim is another...

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4051 - 16/10/2020 18:37:43    2298155

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Replying To Fionn:  "Fully agree - Seamus, Oisin or Fionn deserved a squad call up at least.

Aaron Lynch of Trim is another..."
How do you know all these lads? Is there a wolf among the flock? :)

Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1352 - 16/10/2020 19:12:46    2298163

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What age is mark o sullivan.thegoalie thing has me baffled.ballinbrackey goalie is he in panel.paddy connelly ballivor has had some year is he on there.frank reilly surely get a rattle on squad at least.see how he gets on.managers differ if your not on there radar ur not goin get chance full stop.prob nedd a selector or someone routing for ya in with meath.

Borderroyal (Meath) - Posts: 496 - 16/10/2020 19:13:33    2298164

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Replying To LoyalRoyal66:  "Not true at all. They've been the most consistent team in Meath this past 6 years. They've cleaned up in leagues and Feis cups which are more difficult to win (certainly the league). Any team can go on a lucky run in a championship, look at Simonstown in 2016. No win in their first 3 games. You don't get away with that in league football, you have to be ready to go every week. Take your eye off the ball and you'll find yourself in a relegation scrap"
You've come up with some right doozies but that's up there with them. Harder to win the league than the championship???!!!
I'd argue that the main reason that Kells have won the League is that other teams have had to do without their county players while Kells, rightly or wrongly, have always had their full team available.

Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1374 - 16/10/2020 20:01:50    2298179

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Replying To winatallcost:  "Any news on a Meath squad? Any additions from earlier this year. Think alot of the backs positions are sewn up. Interested to see who will be in goals and the full forward line."
IHickey from seneschalstown, Lynch from trim and Dillon from o mahonys all new additions. O brien from o mahonys gone back home galway

QuarantineJoe (Meath) - Posts: 2 - 16/10/2020 20:38:57    2298191

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Replying To Borderroyal:  "What age is mark o sullivan.thegoalie thing has me baffled.ballinbrackey goalie is he in panel.paddy connelly ballivor has had some year is he on there.frank reilly surely get a rattle on squad at least.see how he gets on.managers differ if your not on there radar ur not goin get chance full stop.prob nedd a selector or someone routing for ya in with meath."
Mark Sullivan played under 21 football in 2011 part of the team who beat Jim Galvins Dublin but lost to Longford in next round. He played at wing back under Banty in 2011 for Meath seniors. I think he played 2 matchs in early stage of O Dowd reign at centre forward in 2013, but hasnt played Id say in 6 or 7 years . He would be 28 or 29. Played in the same under 21 team as Brian Menton. He did have a good championship with Moynalvey at full forward.

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1067 - 16/10/2020 20:57:30    2298196

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Replying To Furlong1949:  "Looks like no championship but the league games might be played. A bit of info below

It looks like Mickey Newman is retired from inter county with hip injury. A loss. Our two best years in recent years were 2013 and 2019. The only years Mickey Newman was available, basically full fit from injury. In 2013 he was very good in his debut year and got nominated for all star. 2014 2015 2016 2017, he suffered injuries every year and missed most league campaigns and was struggling with injuries. In 2018 took year off to get injuries sorted, came back as full forward last year, a kind of target man at times, hes more an inside forward. He was 4th top scorer in last years championship. Destroyed Donegal in league final in first half and was man of the match in our biggest game of the year v Clare where he scored 1 - 5. Very popular in the panel and he is an important player, a very good natural freetaker and he is a poacher finisher corner forward, a player who waits for break and good eye for goal. Had a good season for us last year leading the line. But with out and out target man full forward S Walsh I think that would have got the best out of Newman. Was looking forward to see him starting him with D Lenihan and S Walsh in full forward line this year. Thats our best full forward line, but its look like now they will never play with each other. Mickey Newman and lenihan have only started one game for Meath even though best inside forwards we have had in recent years.

Its means Shane Walsh will start v Dublin with I think with Thomas Reilly who was very good in early parts of league. With Lenihan Joey Wallace and James Conlon fighting for last place. I think Lenihan Walsh O Reilly will start our best option with J Wallace and J Conlon as impact subs. And young players like Jordan Morris and Jack O Connor as options of the bench with maybe Mark Sullivan. S Mattimoe would be worth looking at he had a great championship.

Meath played Cavan in a challenge game recently. Cavan game was a rough tough game. A proper tough local derby. Ronan Ryan played full back v Cavan. It looks like he could start there. As McGill and Rataoth lads are probaly not available. Lavin Ryan Toner were the full back line v Cavan. B Conlon was at centre back v Cavan I expect him to keep his place as Harnan was injured. Brennan started in goals in first half and Colgan in.second I think Colgan with start. No sign of J McEntee.

S McEntee was at midfield with Brian Menton with Ronan Jones Ethan Devine on 40. I think we will see that v Dubs with Menton B Conlon Jones Devine and McBride of bench giving us options for kickout, gives us real physicality which we lacked at centre field for years. I can see Jones Menton at midfield with Shane McEntee playing a more defensive role maybe come back sweeping up at times in the defence.
Mark Sullivan Moynalvey called up to the panel. Hes Cillians brother. Played in 2011 v kildare as a wing back in thechampionship. He has played very little since. Had a good year at full forward for Moynalvey. Could be worth looking at. And Duggie Dillon fron Navan O Mahoney also called up, an half forward. Cian McBride could be option from the bench. He made an impact with high fielding v Cavan."
Thanks furlong hopefully the championship goes ahead, I see from the gpa survey that three quarters of the players that replied want the championship to go ahead.

Royal.Legend (Meath) - Posts: 685 - 16/10/2020 21:34:55    2298210

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Replying To LoyalRoyal66:  "Not true at all. They've been the most consistent team in Meath this past 6 years. They've cleaned up in leagues and Feis cups which are more difficult to win (certainly the league). Any team can go on a lucky run in a championship, look at Simonstown in 2016. No win in their first 3 games. You don't get away with that in league football, you have to be ready to go every week. Take your eye off the ball and you'll find yourself in a relegation scrap"
i've heard it all now, the league and feis cup are harder to win than the championship.
I wanted kells to win two weeks ago, an honest bunch of players who have been consistently good the last few years. however some of the stuff on here and social media lately from their supporters has been embarrassing.
The simple fact of the matter is, kells haven't won a keegan cup because they haven't been good enough. They had an extra man and a penalty going into added time in the final and still couldn't see the game out.
good team with no extraordinary talents, personally i would have Mattimoe involved. but this campaign that there should be X amount of Kells/North Meath men on the panel is nonsense.

Meathmaverick (Meath) - Posts: 106 - 16/10/2020 22:06:04    2298222

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Replying To Furlong1949:  "Looks like no championship but the league games might be played. A bit of info below

It looks like Mickey Newman is retired from inter county with hip injury. A loss. Our two best years in recent years were 2013 and 2019. The only years Mickey Newman was available, basically full fit from injury. In 2013 he was very good in his debut year and got nominated for all star. 2014 2015 2016 2017, he suffered injuries every year and missed most league campaigns and was struggling with injuries. In 2018 took year off to get injuries sorted, came back as full forward last year, a kind of target man at times, hes more an inside forward. He was 4th top scorer in last years championship. Destroyed Donegal in league final in first half and was man of the match in our biggest game of the year v Clare where he scored 1 - 5. Very popular in the panel and he is an important player, a very good natural freetaker and he is a poacher finisher corner forward, a player who waits for break and good eye for goal. Had a good season for us last year leading the line. But with out and out target man full forward S Walsh I think that would have got the best out of Newman. Was looking forward to see him starting him with D Lenihan and S Walsh in full forward line this year. Thats our best full forward line, but its look like now they will never play with each other. Mickey Newman and lenihan have only started one game for Meath even though best inside forwards we have had in recent years.

Its means Shane Walsh will start v Dublin with I think with Thomas Reilly who was very good in early parts of league. With Lenihan Joey Wallace and James Conlon fighting for last place. I think Lenihan Walsh O Reilly will start our best option with J Wallace and J Conlon as impact subs. And young players like Jordan Morris and Jack O Connor as options of the bench with maybe Mark Sullivan. S Mattimoe would be worth looking at he had a great championship.

Meath played Cavan in a challenge game recently. Cavan game was a rough tough game. A proper tough local derby. Ronan Ryan played full back v Cavan. It looks like he could start there. As McGill and Rataoth lads are probaly not available. Lavin Ryan Toner were the full back line v Cavan. B Conlon was at centre back v Cavan I expect him to keep his place as Harnan was injured. Brennan started in goals in first half and Colgan in.second I think Colgan with start. No sign of J McEntee.

S McEntee was at midfield with Brian Menton with Ronan Jones Ethan Devine on 40. I think we will see that v Dubs with Menton B Conlon Jones Devine and McBride of bench giving us options for kickout, gives us real physicality which we lacked at centre field for years. I can see Jones Menton at midfield with Shane McEntee playing a more defensive role maybe come back sweeping up at times in the defence.
Mark Sullivan Moynalvey called up to the panel. Hes Cillians brother. Played in 2011 v kildare as a wing back in thechampionship. He has played very little since. Had a good year at full forward for Moynalvey. Could be worth looking at. And Duggie Dillon fron Navan O Mahoney also called up, an half forward. Cian McBride could be option from the bench. He made an impact with high fielding v Cavan."
Good information Furlong. Had heard very little up to now. Looking forward to see these lads tomorrow.

winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 594 - 16/10/2020 22:51:00    2298239

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Replying To Borderroyal:  "What age is mark o sullivan.thegoalie thing has me baffled.ballinbrackey goalie is he in panel.paddy connelly ballivor has had some year is he on there.frank reilly surely get a rattle on squad at least.see how he gets on.managers differ if your not on there radar ur not goin get chance full stop.prob nedd a selector or someone routing for ya in with meath."
Puck has been called into panel. Ballinabrackey gk

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 16/10/2020 23:34:35    2298254

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Replying To Royal.Legend:  "Thanks furlong hopefully the championship goes ahead, I see from the gpa survey that three quarters of the players that replied want the championship to go ahead."
Thanks Royallegend.
Meath (FL v Dublin) - Andrew Colgan, Eoin Harkin, Seamus Lavin, David Toner; Brían Conlon, Shane McEntee, Donal Keogan; Bryan Menton, Ronan Jones; Ethan Devine, Cillian O'Sullivan, Jason Scully; Thomas O'Reilly, Donal Lenihan, Barry Dardis.

Team picked a real strange one. McGill is missing and seems rest of Rataoth lads I think thats expected, but McGill a massive loss one of the best full backs in the country. Harkin is unproven, Shane Gallagher and Ronan Ryan are proven county players and good defenders, they must injured. No James McEntee or Harnam also must be injured. For me McGill Ryan Gallagher J McEntee P Harnan are first choice defenders. What about Gavin McCoy or Niall kane also options and Robin Clarke another option at the back. Midfield is good with Jones and Menton. Half forwards expected but with McMahon gone very surprised Campion not starting or even Costello. And big surprise Shane Walsh not starting. Looking at that team Conor McGill Shane Gallagher James McEntee Ronan Ryan Byran McMahon Paraig Harnan Two Wallaces Shane Walsh and Mickey Newman are missing thats 8 first teams players. Injuries, players in close contact, maybe a dummy team if not thats the most experimental side McEntee has picked since 2018. Maybe its a dummy team, I dont think one or two might not start. Very surprised by the team selection of Harkin Scully and Dardis is out of the blue. I dont think many would have had them starting and probaly not on the match day panel.

That team has 8 changes to the team that played Meaths last game in the league this year. That team has 9 changes to the team that started v Dublin in last years leinster final. We had settled team last year. I am genuinely puzzled by this selection.

The Dublin forwards told Bernard Flynn and journalist that Meath defenders they faced in last years leinster final were the toughest they faced in the last few years. Meath have issues upfront. Every team in div 1 have better forwards but Meath are good at the back. Kept Dublin to lowest score in championship in first half since 2011 Donegal semi final.
Lavin McGill Gallagher and Koeghan were outstanding v Callaghan and co up to 53rd min, then game was up. Meath kept Mannion Callaghan Kilkenny and Costello to 2 points from play up to 53rd min. Kilkenny was very quite on Keoghan. Meath forwards were shocking poor Meath lack quality upfront. No marque top class forwards but there is young forward talent coming through. But no gurantee there is another Giles or O Rourke on the horizon.
But Dublin forwards Callaghan and kilkenny and Mannion did tell Bernard Flynn and journalist that the best defenders they faced in the last few years were Meath, McGill and keoghan are two top class defenders. McGill Koeghan Gallagher Lavin were excellent one on one defending you dont seem much anymore. Why Meath were promoted and reached super 8 last year was because of the defence . The Defence that played v Dublin last year 4 are missing today in Conor McGill Padraig Harnan Shane Gallagher and James McEntee. I would be expecting the worst after seen that team picked for today, not confident at all.

Furlong1949 (Meath) - Posts: 1067 - 17/10/2020 08:30:17    2298274

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Replying To Royal.Legend:  "Thanks furlong hopefully the championship goes ahead, I see from the gpa survey that three quarters of the players that replied want the championship to go ahead."
The Ratoath lads not included, might be related to high numbers of Covid 19 in Ratoath area but the surprise for me is the omission of Cian McBride from the panel named this morning.

Meathball (Meath) - Posts: 140 - 17/10/2020 09:38:53    2298280

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