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Agree on the above but you would think Jack Regan is a bigger man more skillful and could have worked his way out of the Kildalkey marking situation same as Mark O'Sullivan. They just let Kildalkey rule them and played into Kildalkey hands. Kilkdalkey goalie was excellent and kept them in the game. Kildalkey scores were taken well where as Kiltale choice at times were questionable.

Clan Na Gael and Kilmessan was a good game Kilmessan still have enough to keep there heads above water. CNG have a problem with full back and Centre forward. Two vital positions and both lads struggled there at the weekend.

Trim are in form they are getting into championship mode. I know Kiltale bet them in the HL but when the need to be right they are. All coming together

Ratoath - they will be hard beat and Kiltale will struggle unless there big guns perform and sake off there complacence

ALLGAA32 (Meath) - Posts: 64 - 13/08/2020 16:27:05    2287444

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I don't follow the hurling as much as I do the football - so not really sure how it is structured in the 2020 format. I know this is a hurling weekend and from what I can see - the leagues look to be set up very much in Trim's favour.

Longwood v Killyon - both in Trim's group and Trim won handy the first day out so would expect they will top this group.

Ratoath v Kiltale - Kiltale losing the first round - I presume this is do or die for them? This looks like a really tough group - last years winners and runners up

D'Boyne v NOM - are either of these real contenders?

BHG v Kilmessan - Kilmessan drew with Clan Na Gael firts week so presume this is do or die for them too!

Royalblufill (Meath) - Posts: 515 - 19/08/2020 10:06:54    2288200

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When was the last time Kiltale failed to make the knockout stages of the championship?

Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1374 - 23/08/2020 13:46:39    2288742

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i make it 2006

dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 790 - 23/08/2020 22:24:28    2288827

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In a semi final at least , every year since 2004 / 2005 ish.
Not sure when failed to make knock outs last , be in around 2004 also ?

Amazing record when you think about it.

hurlit (Meath) - Posts: 425 - 24/08/2020 09:54:11    2288861

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Very poor games all round this weekend. Streaming not a great way to see the games but at least we could see them.
Longwood beating Killyon bit of a shock to most people except Longwood people,
NOM closer to Dunboyne than expected, good sign for NOM or bad sign for Dunboyne ?
Ratoath beating Kiltale no real surprise, that said would not have been surprised if Kiltale won,
Kilmessan beating BHG no real shock.

So next up Ratoath V Kildalkey, tight affair between 2 of the 3 sides capable of winning Jubliee, for me Kildalkey might shade this one.
Trim V Longwood, One way trafffic, Trim
CNG V BHG, CNG to win but not by enough.
Dunboyne V Na Fianna, Na Fianna to shade this one.

Qtr Finals
Ratoath V Na Fianna (Think i have the groups right way around) Ratoath at a canter
Longwood V Killmessan ( Kilmessan for me)

Semi Finals
Trim V Ratoath (Close call here, football could play a big part, if either of them fail to progress in football then they will have a slight advantage, that said i think Ratoath will progress here on very small margin but its a game that could go either way.
Kildalkey V Kilmessan, both teams with mix of youth, expierence and elder statesmen, Kildalkey will have to much for Kilmessan here.

From here i cant see any major upset occuring, for me its between Trim, Ratoath & Kildalkey who are the 3 best teams in the championship and anyone of them can beat each other on the day.

All 3 have football distractions with Senior Inter and Junior so injuries could be a major issue.

Whats the story in Kiltale, second team were destroyed by Kildalkey, or was the score misprinted ?

What's the thinking folks on the reaminder of games.

We need the case numbers to cool down or our champo might have to stop.

StickFan (Meath) - Posts: 217 - 25/08/2020 13:06:03    2289071

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Final round of championship this weekend.

Kildalkey vs Ratoath. Tough one to call. Ratoath dismantled a kiltale team falling from grace and kildalkey dismissed the same. On form you would have to pick kildalkey but Ratoath could edge this one.
Ratoath by 2

Longwood vs Trim. Very hard to see anything other than a Trim win here. Beat Killyon by 16 pulling up coming to the last using subs theat werent needed. Big pitch will suit Trim aswell with them being able to express themselves through space and pace. Longwood will be happy with a 1/4 final spot this year could be dubbed as the great escape .
Trim by 10+

Blackhall Geals vs Clan na Geal. BHG not living upto last years hype when running trim close, carrying a few lads and really should have beaten an aged Kilmessan side who are falling through the cracks or Meath Hurling. The Clans riding high at the minute, havent lost a game of football or Hurling in Meath In a long time such is the success of having a winning habit.
Clan na Geal by 6+

Na Fianna vs Dunboyne. Dunboyne are starting to bounce back from a few years of despair of which they were lucky enough that worse teams were in the same groups as them. NA fianna could be hindered by the fact the footballers are in semi final but good dual players always prevail. I just think Na Fianna might have to much for Dunboyne with youth/fitness being the catalyst for their success.
Na Fianna by 4+


Any thoughts

lordofthecrack (Meath) - Posts: 43 - 02/09/2020 10:39:19    2290170

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Replying To lordofthecrack:  "Final round of championship this weekend.

Kildalkey vs Ratoath. Tough one to call. Ratoath dismantled a kiltale team falling from grace and kildalkey dismissed the same. On form you would have to pick kildalkey but Ratoath could edge this one.
Ratoath by 2

Longwood vs Trim. Very hard to see anything other than a Trim win here. Beat Killyon by 16 pulling up coming to the last using subs theat werent needed. Big pitch will suit Trim aswell with them being able to express themselves through space and pace. Longwood will be happy with a 1/4 final spot this year could be dubbed as the great escape .
Trim by 10+

Blackhall Geals vs Clan na Geal. BHG not living upto last years hype when running trim close, carrying a few lads and really should have beaten an aged Kilmessan side who are falling through the cracks or Meath Hurling. The Clans riding high at the minute, havent lost a game of football or Hurling in Meath In a long time such is the success of having a winning habit.
Clan na Geal by 6+

Na Fianna vs Dunboyne. Dunboyne are starting to bounce back from a few years of despair of which they were lucky enough that worse teams were in the same groups as them. NA fianna could be hindered by the fact the footballers are in semi final but good dual players always prevail. I just think Na Fianna might have to much for Dunboyne with youth/fitness being the catalyst for their success.
Na Fianna by 4+


Any thoughts"
"Trim 10+"....not a chance, Longwood will push them all the way and I won't be surprised if they beat them. And don't underestimate Kildalkey. Ratoath impressive but with Kildalkey, they have been there and done that...Apart from Kilmessan they are the only team left in the championship with players who have success under their belts.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1080 - 02/09/2020 21:21:30    2290291

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Replying To MillerX:  "
Replying To lordofthecrack:  "Final round of championship this weekend.

Kildalkey vs Ratoath. Tough one to call. Ratoath dismantled a kiltale team falling from grace and kildalkey dismissed the same. On form you would have to pick kildalkey but Ratoath could edge this one.
Ratoath by 2

Longwood vs Trim. Very hard to see anything other than a Trim win here. Beat Killyon by 16 pulling up coming to the last using subs theat werent needed. Big pitch will suit Trim aswell with them being able to express themselves through space and pace. Longwood will be happy with a 1/4 final spot this year could be dubbed as the great escape .
Trim by 10+

Blackhall Geals vs Clan na Geal. BHG not living upto last years hype when running trim close, carrying a few lads and really should have beaten an aged Kilmessan side who are falling through the cracks or Meath Hurling. The Clans riding high at the minute, havent lost a game of football or Hurling in Meath In a long time such is the success of having a winning habit.
Clan na Geal by 6+

Na Fianna vs Dunboyne. Dunboyne are starting to bounce back from a few years of despair of which they were lucky enough that worse teams were in the same groups as them. NA fianna could be hindered by the fact the footballers are in semi final but good dual players always prevail. I just think Na Fianna might have to much for Dunboyne with youth/fitness being the catalyst for their success.
Na Fianna by 4+


Any thoughts"
"Trim 10+"....not a chance, Longwood will push them all the way and I won't be surprised if they beat them. And don't underestimate Kildalkey. Ratoath impressive but with Kildalkey, they have been there and done that...Apart from Kilmessan they are the only team left in the championship with players who have success under their belts."
Longwood don't have the firepower to hassle Trim last the 20th minute. It will be a good tight sticky first period but Trims fitness should get the better of them not to mention skill level.

Ratoath put a kiltale side that has 7 out of the last 9 championships to the sword so I'd say they are fairly equipt. Ratoath are up and coming and are a force to be reckoned with

lordofthecrack (Meath) - Posts: 43 - 02/09/2020 23:31:14    2290306

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Just for fun.
Here are the predictions based on how much they beat the other team in the group by (i.e Kildalkey beat Kiltale by 2 and Ratoath beat Kiltale by 1)

Kildalkey V Ratoath
Kildalkey by 1

Trim V Longwood
Trim by 12

Clan NaGael V Blackhall
Clan Na Gael by 9

Na Fianna V Dunboyne
Na Fianna by 1

BelieveinMeath (Meath) - Posts: 121 - 03/09/2020 15:58:48    2290426

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Trim to beat longwood easily , longwood can not compete with the top 3 teams in navan , if they could play every match in rathmolyon or dunshaughlin they are hard to beat yes , big pitch you cant carry so many.
Lucky they were in weaker group

Kildalkey and ratoath is a dead rubber lets be honest , ratoath have important semi final next sunday which may distract them. kildalkey only play junior football so wont be to bothered about injury.
kildalkey but only just


Group b is very poor

Athboy to beat bhg easily , will it be enough to get through im not sure
Hard to believe a very poor kilmessan team could make knock outs

Na fianna and dunboyne is toss of a coin , il go with dunboyne

Navan to beat bhg in the relegation

Kiltale to beat killyon is group a relegation , but only just

hurlit (Meath) - Posts: 425 - 04/09/2020 09:12:56    2290499

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Replying To hurlit:  "Trim to beat longwood easily , longwood can not compete with the top 3 teams in navan , if they could play every match in rathmolyon or dunshaughlin they are hard to beat yes , big pitch you cant carry so many.
Lucky they were in weaker group

Kildalkey and ratoath is a dead rubber lets be honest , ratoath have important semi final next sunday which may distract them. kildalkey only play junior football so wont be to bothered about injury.
kildalkey but only just


Group b is very poor

Athboy to beat bhg easily , will it be enough to get through im not sure
Hard to believe a very poor kilmessan team could make knock outs

Na fianna and dunboyne is toss of a coin , il go with dunboyne

Navan to beat bhg in the relegation

Kiltale to beat killyon is group a relegation , but only just"
Ratoath and kildalkey not a dead rubber, winner into a semi final againstr either longwood or Kilmessan/CNG, loser into a qtr where the winner of that meet Trim in semi final.

StickFan (Meath) - Posts: 217 - 04/09/2020 14:15:16    2290550

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The benifit of going straight to a semi and have 3 or 4 week break from championship or playing a 1/4 final and building momentum by regular games is very minimal.
Both have upsides and downsides
Both teams progress , so its not exactly all on the line is it

hurlit (Meath) - Posts: 425 - 04/09/2020 17:16:28    2290581

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I'd agree with stickfan here!
A lot easier for the team who wins Kildalkey Ratoath to get to county final than the loser imo

Trim v Longwood: Trim seem to be missing A few through injury and longwood can beat anyone on there day, trim by 7 though too much hurlers all over!

Ratoath v Kildalkey: Both beat Kiltale and looked comfortable, interesting if McGill and McMahon are back for ratoath, kildalkey by 4

Clann v BHG: Clann by 4 but not enough to qualify

Na Fianna v Dunboyne: Having seen dunboyne v navan I can only see a Naf win, two average teams?

Meathgaalad (Meath) - Posts: 171 - 04/09/2020 23:04:00    2290616

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Trim hurling well again this year I wouldn't rule out their chances of winning the championship they are a dark horse for it that no team should underestimate in the knockout stages deep into the competition. I think Kiltale will want to take back their crown after losing out to Kildalkey last year in an entertaining final. However I think Kildalkey will have taken a lot of confidence from last years win and will have no reason not to believe they can do it again. A very interesting knockout stage to come and will be interesting to see who lifts the senior hurling this year.

MeathGaa2004 (Meath) - Posts: 25 - 05/09/2020 01:01:02    2290633

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Replying To StickFan:  "Ratoath and kildalkey not a dead rubber, winner into a semi final againstr either longwood or Kilmessan/CNG, loser into a qtr where the winner of that meet Trim in semi final."
Knockout pairings are below, still an easier route to the final for winner of Ratoath v Kildalkey I think

• Predetermined knockout draws as follows
o 1st in B1 v 2nd in A2 in quarter-final - winner plays 1st in A1 in semi-final
o 1st in B2 v 2nd in A1 in quarter-final - winner plays 1st in A2 in semi-final
• 1 senior B team is promoted to senior A for following year based on knockout progress - however if
both teams exit at same stage then a playoff is required.
• Bottom teams in A1 and A2 playoff with loser relegated to Senior B for following year. Bottom
teams in B1 and B2 playoff with loser relegated to IHC for the following year.

hurlingroyals (Meath) - Posts: 45 - 05/09/2020 09:25:00    2290646

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Replying To MeathGaa2004:  "Trim hurling well again this year I wouldn't rule out their chances of winning the championship they are a dark horse for it that no team should underestimate in the knockout stages deep into the competition. I think Kiltale will want to take back their crown after losing out to Kildalkey last year in an entertaining final. However I think Kildalkey will have taken a lot of confidence from last years win and will have no reason not to believe they can do it again. A very interesting knockout stage to come and will be interesting to see who lifts the senior hurling this year."
Very hard for kiltale to take back there crown when they're playing a relegation game today!

Meathgaalad (Meath) - Posts: 171 - 05/09/2020 10:24:29    2290652

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Ratoath have a good chance this year it will be interesting to see how they get on against Kildalkey. They are hurling well at the moment putting Kiltale in a relegation playoff showing that.

MeathGaa2004 (Meath) - Posts: 25 - 05/09/2020 13:41:36    2290672

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Replying To Meathgaalad:  "Very hard for kiltale to take back there crown when they're playing a relegation game today!"
Yeah good point my apologies on that one, they definitely won't get relegated anyway and should win the playoff with ease.

MeathGaa2004 (Meath) - Posts: 25 - 05/09/2020 18:07:15    2290708

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Replying To Meathgaalad:  "I'd agree with stickfan here!
A lot easier for the team who wins Kildalkey Ratoath to get to county final than the loser imo

Trim v Longwood: Trim seem to be missing A few through injury and longwood can beat anyone on there day, trim by 7 though too much hurlers all over!

Ratoath v Kildalkey: Both beat Kiltale and looked comfortable, interesting if McGill and McMahon are back for ratoath, kildalkey by 4

Clann v BHG: Clann by 4 but not enough to qualify

Na Fianna v Dunboyne: Having seen dunboyne v navan I can only see a Naf win, two average teams?"
Some result for Ratoath

head4dblackspot (Meath) - Posts: 513 - 05/09/2020 20:26:42    2290727

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