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Replying To Crinigan:  "Exactly.

Like ok, play the running game with o Sullivan, McEntee, Wallace's etc but then surely he can the mix it up and bring on something different in likes of Dardis, Tobin (another decent enough free taker), O'Connor, Costello - all of whom bring something else to the table other than running at the opposition like rugby league players.

You've a huge wind at your back, get lads in who can kick a score ffs!"
Exactly

grahamc9897 (Meath) - Posts: 1176 - 09/02/2020 20:53:41    2266571

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McEntee should look at his failings before putting the blame on the ref what an embarrassment .
A small county what a statement we are a F___ing div 1 team or supposed to be we kick 14 wides have no free taker and he blames the ref for not adding extra time to the extra time !! Would yea stop

mmc (Meath) - Posts: 281 - 09/02/2020 22:44:07    2266626

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Replying To grahamc9897:  "Exactly"
Quicker Newman is back the better

Northmeath2345 (Meath) - Posts: 38 - 09/02/2020 23:13:05    2266638

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Management seem to have decided there is only one way to play and for whatever reason are too stubborn to admit it is not working and try something different.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2196 - 09/02/2020 23:39:50    2266647

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The decisions made on the sideline are nearly as bad as some of the decisions on the pitch by players.
The last two weeks before this weeks game one of the most obvious things (that needed sorting, after the goal keeper/kickouts) was that it was not fair asking lads to take frees who were not freetakers.
Why did he take Walsh today off when we were playing with the wind and he would be well able to score frees?
Why was Dardis not brought on then?
Why is Luke Mitchell not on the panel? Is it that he can not be released from the Under 20's? what a Free taker

madmeath (Meath) - Posts: 84 - 09/02/2020 23:52:35    2266648

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All willing to blame players and manager who had a difficult week personally. Why is it wrong to be truthful and point out that the officials were to blame?.
Also why was a line ball moved 20 metres in the field allowing mayo get their 8th point?.

Ashrules (Dublin) - Posts: 553 - 10/02/2020 00:08:24    2266650

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Replying To grahamc9897:  "Exactly"
Neither of the Wallace's started so I think he was trying to mix it up!
I heard Andy being interviewed yesterday- hugely frustrated / partly with the ref but I am guessing with the players too!
The amount of wides and then a stupid turnover at the end! He can't kick the ball for them!!
Every week there is a call for someone who didn't play - then they get on, do little and we move on to someone else!

Royalblufill (Meath) - Posts: 515 - 10/02/2020 07:18:30    2266664

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Replying To Ashrules:  "All willing to blame players and manager who had a difficult week personally. Why is it wrong to be truthful and point out that the officials were to blame?.
Also why was a line ball moved 20 metres in the field allowing mayo get their 8th point?."
The ball was moved forward because Keogan threw/hit the ball into the stand to prevent Mayo have taking a quick line ball. it was a stupid thing to do on his part and was rightly moved forward.

juicy (Meath) - Posts: 402 - 10/02/2020 08:56:24    2266678

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Replying To Ashrules:  "All willing to blame players and manager who had a difficult week personally. Why is it wrong to be truthful and point out that the officials were to blame?.
Also why was a line ball moved 20 metres in the field allowing mayo get their 8th point?."
That was because a Meath player punched the ball over the fence into the terrace after the ball went out for a Mayo sideline ball. Absolutely stupid thing to do which basically gifted Mayo their equalizer.

Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1374 - 10/02/2020 08:59:40    2266679

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Replying To madmeath:  "The decisions made on the sideline are nearly as bad as some of the decisions on the pitch by players.
The last two weeks before this weeks game one of the most obvious things (that needed sorting, after the goal keeper/kickouts) was that it was not fair asking lads to take frees who were not freetakers.
Why did he take Walsh today off when we were playing with the wind and he would be well able to score frees?
Why was Dardis not brought on then?
Why is Luke Mitchell not on the panel? Is it that he can not be released from the Under 20's? what a Free taker"
In this day and age when there are so many kickable frees awarded (due to amount of breaking lines you have to do againt mass defences), you have to have a high percentage free taker even if hes a bit a of a passenger in the team otherwise.

Whether that's Cathal Finnegan or Dardis or Luke Mitchell, whoever - there should be one on the field at all times. Jesus when you think of all the kickable frees that have been squandered in the past few years. Its just outrageous.

Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1352 - 10/02/2020 09:00:42    2266680

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Replying To Ratoath Royal:  "That was because a Meath player punched the ball over the fence into the terrace after the ball went out for a Mayo sideline ball. Absolutely stupid thing to do which basically gifted Mayo their equalizer."
who did it?

Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1352 - 10/02/2020 09:19:10    2266686

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Replying To Crinigan:  "Sorry lads, hate to say it but the final 15 minutes when the game was there to be taken was a shocking indictment of this management team.

Leaving aside all the tactical shortcomings discussed daily here, wtf were they doing with O'SUllivan and McEntee going for vital scores from distance frees while Barry Dardis was kicking his heels on the sideline. I mean it was embarrassing to have no free taker on the pitch at such a vital time. Dardis is exceptional from placed balls (yet has not taken one for Meath since kicking over arguably the greatest free I've ever seen a Meath player kick in Croke Park last summer, 70 yards out, way over on the right) and we had the wind at our backs. What the hell are the management thinking standing there looking at James McEntee kicking a 45? (even Menton kicks them over for his club sometimes).

And Eamonn Wallace came on of course because that's what we needed, right? And what does he do? I'll say nothing more. As predictable as night and day."
The player named as sub goalie cannot come on outfield. Barry Dardis couldn't come on as a forward yesterday.

jackhackett (Meath) - Posts: 773 - 10/02/2020 09:40:18    2266693

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Keogan

Borderroyal (Meath) - Posts: 496 - 10/02/2020 09:44:23    2266694

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Replying To Crinigan:  "who did it?"
It was Donal Keogan who did it. Dont know why he didnt just leave it off but maybe he thought no one was behind him and needed time for backs to get into postition.

SheridansTry (Meath) - Posts: 180 - 10/02/2020 09:50:04    2266697

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With the wind behind us in the first half I don't know why we didn't start launching it in. Mayo have always been suspect under a high ball. Easiest way to play football. Ball travels faster than man. Just drive the thing in

LoyalRoyal66 (Meath) - Posts: 85 - 10/02/2020 10:08:22    2266703

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Replying To jackhackett:  "The player named as sub goalie cannot come on outfield. Barry Dardis couldn't come on as a forward yesterday."
don't think thats true, i remember David Gallagher always brought out two jersies

brian (Meath) - Posts: 1973 - 10/02/2020 10:10:09    2266706

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Looking at this factually I thought defensively we were very good overall, some serious work put in and McGill was fantastic, midfield was much improved from the last two games but as had been the case both this year and last it's up front where we have our problems, we are not scoring enough simple as that, we are creating plenty of chances and producing some good build up play but out conversion rate is shocking, the two goals yesterday showed the movement and incisiveness we can create but we need far more composure and patience in front of goal and take proper shot selection, our wastefulness cost us in Omagh and it cost us yesterday and the frustration in McEntee was clear to be seen afterwards with this and the referee and by the way he is quite right to be annoyed as Meath certainly should have been granted one more play.

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3744 - 10/02/2020 10:15:28    2266708

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As previously said, defence and midfield were decent, I thought Conlon was suited to #6 and would like to see him stay there. Ronan Ryan also played well. Devine and Walsh brought a different approach in the forwards, I can only assume Walsh was injured (anyone know?) to be taken off, otherwise that was a huge mistake by management.
All the above were positives on top of Keoghan's leadership.
On the other hand, I felt sorry for Clarke as he has had some good performances and had played well up to his game changing mistake. S. McEntee well deserves his position in the backs but going forward he wasted 3 scoring opportunities yesterday at critical times which were extremely frustrating.
The two goals were great, brought a bit of belief and excitement to an otherwise subdued Meath crowd. It felt like the Mayo support outnumbered us!!
Cillian O'S tries hard but I don't think he is suitable, one great score but otherwise guilty of running into corners or trouble and losing possession.
A very disappointing end to a game that we had 2 points in the bag, would have made the last few games much more exciting to play for survival, now it's sadly back to Div 2.
It's all be said about the free-taking issue and the official blaming comments which are both management issues.

Tweety (Meath) - Posts: 31 - 10/02/2020 10:28:41    2266714

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Replying To brian:  "don't think thats true, i remember David Gallagher always brought out two jersies"
It's not true. Dardis of course was free to come on outfield. Same way any player on the bench or on the field for that matter can go in Goals.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1012 - 10/02/2020 10:37:38    2266719

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Three years in now and same mistakes still being made , both tactically and by the players.
You should nearly carry a good free taker on a day like yesterday where conditions were not ideal.
This is top level and not a place for rookie mistakes.
Should have good something from that game , a real sickner

hurlit (Meath) - Posts: 425 - 10/02/2020 11:04:44    2266734

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