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2021 Rankings So Far - 4 Like(s)

Replying To brian:  "supersub are you ranking based on who's left. That's a silly way to go about things and not really ranking teams at all, its saying here's who's left and they're the best.. Are Kildare any better than Galway or Cork (other provincial finalists). I would say they'd break even Would Kildare beat Monaghan or Tyrone? Nope not on current form Are Kildare any better than Meath, Roscommon, Clare (who beat them in St Conleths Park), Derry or Armagh. I would argue they're of a very similar standard Are Kildare better than Donegal, not even close. Donegal would run over them You're ranking Kildare above Tyrone - Tyrone who got to a division 1 semi final, dismantled and beat the defending Ulster champions and a division one team and will play another in the final. Tyrone are playing a far higher standard of football than Kildare and ranked below them. Come off it. Yes they got beat out the gates v Kerry but they're under new management. Lets not forget Meath beat Kildare out the gates last year in the championship. Kildare have played Offaly (Div 3) and Westmeath (Div 2) to get to a Leinster final. They've played no one of a better standard than them. Kildare are 6th of the teams left and trying to argue it any other way is laughable. If you're going to rank teams at least show some consistency, use the league and championship and last years championship as a consistent basis. Look at Tipp and Cavan, both dropped to division 4 this year and exited the championship with a whimper but by the logic you apply they were top 4 teams last year."
Kildare are a top 12 top 10 team at most. I think Meath are better them then are seemed to unperform in the league play off game in Newbridge. The four Division 1 Ulster teams are better then them, Dublin obviously, Kerry and Mayo Kildare would all struggle to get within 10 points of these teams. The problem I think with Kildare and Kildare fans is that they actually think that they are better then they, I know myself from a Clare point of view every time we have played them we have been more then a match for them and beat them on three occasions in the last 5 years. But we in Clare are constantly underhyped and underrated, while the opposite is true of Kildare would are often overhyped. Once upon a time I didn't mind Kildare until there recently when Johnny Doyle was talking on the GAA hour in after Clare beat them are he was very bitter over the loss to Clare. He was saying stuff like that Clare are a hurling county which is false, it's a Half an half county, and because he considered them this that Kildare should be beating them. Talk about arrogance from a county that have not achieved that much.

CartaDubh (National) - 28/07/2021 10:56:45

Route To Winning An All-Ireland - 3 Like(s)

Replying To DL_Man:  "I saw a bit of chat on twitter lately about Kerry not being tested in Munster this year, and obviously Dublin are rarely tested in Leinster anymore either. What I was wondering, is what is the toughest route any team has faced on the way to winning an all Ireland? In 2012 we defeated Cavan, Derry, Tyrone, Down, Kerry, Cork and Mayo. Now, obviously, if we'd lost one of the first four games, we would still have had a second chance in the qualifiers. But is there any team who's faced a tougher run of games on the way to winning it?"
I'd say Tyrone 05 would have to be up there as the toughest route. I think they ended up playing 10 games that summer. Beat Down in the Ulster Quarter Final. Then were taking to a replay by Cavan in the Ulster Semi. The Ulster Final against Armagh, went to a replay as well which they lost. Beat Monaghan in the 4th round of the qualifiers. Then were once again taking to a replay this time by Dublin in the All Ireland Quarter Final. Then they beat Armagh in the Semi thanks to that famous point by Peter Canavan and beat Kerry in the final.

CartaDubh (National) - 31/08/2021 10:42:08

Football All-Stars And POTY - 2 Like(s)

Replying To WanPintWin:  "Is that 5 Kerry All-stars and 2 for Tyrone? I'd assume 5 would be a record for losing semi-finalists. D Clifford plus maybe O'Sullivan will be your lot, I'd say. Ruane would be my footballer of the year at this point, but of course that could easily change after the final."
How can one's be so biased like the reality is that a lot of the Kerry players have shown how overhyped and overrated a team they are in the last three years. They are a decent team but the reality as I think Dinny Long put it on Terrace Talk is that they are a couple of players short of winning an All Ireland, plus the fact that they have a few players in the twilight of their careers. Paul Murphy, David Moran, Stephen O'Brien and Paul Geaney all nearing the end of their career. I'd say David Clifford will be the only Kerry player winning an All Star.

CartaDubh (National) - 01/09/2021 13:28:46

NFL Div 2 - 2 Like(s)

Replying To bennybunny:  "It won't be easy in Ennis for sure. However, I would expect Mayo to win. Clare rely heavily on Tubridy for scoring. He is top quality but Mayo carry greater overall scoring power. Better strength in depth too. More experienced. Clare have done really well. I would love to see them in Division 1 and beat Kerry too. The latter is unlikely and Mayo are better equipped for Division 1."
Probably overall Mayo have that more strength and depth alright. But we are not fully reliant on Tubridy for scorers, Eoin Cleary has been or main score getter for the last year or so. While Jamie Malone probably will be back from injury for the Mayo game which will give us another attacking threat. The thing is a team has to be very disciplined against us as both Cleary from the left foot and Tubridy off the right are both very good free takers, so any free given in and around the 45 or even just outside the 45 on either side of the field is a scoring chance in the form both Cleary and Tubridy are in at the moment.

CartaDubh (National) - 05/06/2021 09:36:26

NFL Div 2 - 2 Like(s)

Replying To bennybunny:  "Ya. You are right. Eoin Cleary is a fine player too. I didn't mean to be dismissive. For the record I hope you beat Mayo. I was hoping Cork would beat ye by four points so we would a chance to play Mayo and have a crack of Division 1. I think we would be well beaten had that opportunity arisen. I just think Mayo are overall a better side than Clare."
Know I didn't think you were being dismissive even though probably some people in the media might be at times. But sure maybe that is used as motivation at times for the team. Anyway Mayo probably will be a bit too strong for us but I prefer to play them then Kerry as we don't have that mental block against Mayo as we aren't used to getting beat by them every year. That's what drives me mad about the provincial championships we would love to even play some of the ulster teams or the Connacht teams in an open draw formal as we wouldn't have the same of them as we would have had against Kerry, which I'm sure is the same in Leinster for teams playing Dublin. Finally you would never know and I live in hope, and maybe Colm and the team can take inspiration from Cavan's win against Donegal in the Ulster Final last year.

CartaDubh (National) - 06/06/2021 14:06:31

Football All-Stars And POTY - 2 Like(s)

Replying To Aibrean:  "How quickly amnesia sets in! Ok, 2020 was a write-off but Kerry drew with Dublin in the 2019 final (ok, they lost the replay) and could easily have beaten Tyrone last Saturday - losing by 1 point after extra-time. In fact, the 'reality' (your word) is that Kerry were arguably the second best team in the country over the last 3 years - not too bad for an "overhyped and over-rated team"."
Ya it's really the media's fault, they hype up Kerry based on tradition. Yes Kerry could have very easily won that game on Saturday but hearing things all year about how Kerry were going to win the all Ireland and once Dublin were gone that they were going to cake walk to the All Ireland. Look Kerry are still in the top 5 teams in the country but they probably don't have a strong enough squad or a good enough team to win the All Ireland. Compare Kerry's back line to the likes of Tyrone's, Mayo's or Dublin's and they aren't as good. Also some of their forwards are not playing as good as they were and David Clifford was the one keeping them in the game on Saturday need more from the likes of Seanie O'Shea if they are going to get to the next level and win the All Ireland.

CartaDubh (National) - 01/09/2021 16:23:41

Kerry Lads And Tattoos - 2 Like(s)
Apart from Micheál Burns, there doesn't actually seem to be too many current Kerry players with tattoos or noticeable tattoos anyway, even going back the years Galvin and Barry John Keane used to have them alright. But it seems more like that he was just having a dig at Galvin more then anything but look at there are these loons in society nowadays anyway fair play to the lads that have the tattoos it's their choice and their body.

CartaDubh (National) - 04/08/2021 15:47:45

Intercounty Players Who Had One Or Two Good Seasons And Then Just Disappeared..Both Codes - 1 Like(s)

Replying To TippRed:  "I can't say if there was a second Shane Moloney but the guy in 15 was very young, just out of minor I think and got a lot of airtime after his match winning point. I think Conor Whelan burst on the scene at this time too. Hard to believe that's 6 years ago. Shane Moloney must be around 24/5 now. I still picture him as a young player scoring a memorable point in a pressure cooker situation."
That Shane Maloney was Minor All Ireland Winning Captain in 2011, so he probably would be about 28 now, was probably around 22 in 2015. Came on in a lot of games in the two years after 2015, I think he came late in the final in 2017. John Lee was another one from Galway looked like he was going to be a star centre back for Galway for several years but seemed to go over night and apart from one or two seasons didn't hear much from him after that.

CartaDubh (National) - 08/06/2021 10:04:35

Mayo V Tyrone All-Ireland Football Final - 1 Like(s)

Replying To Lockjaw:  "Not really relevant to this thread, and I'm looking a bit into the future, but what a championship 2022 should be! You'll have Mayo/Tyrone - the all Ireland Champions Dublin desperate to reclaim the title. Kerry possibly under new management absolutely ravenous to end their AI Famine. Teams like Donegal, Monaghan, Armagh, Derry, Meath, Kildare, Cork, Galway all have potential and will be seeking to challenge the top teams. For this year's final it is so hard to call. You couldn't say that either team have no flaws. Tyrone's kick outs were poor yesterday & mayo's first half performance against Dublin would be very concerning to their supporters. Both teams will obviously fancy their chances and it could come down to which team remains the more composed and limits unnecessary mistakes."
The likes of Cork have no chance of winning or for several next year, need a new management team. Have good underage teams, but have had really good underage teams the last 10 years and done nothing. Kildare also are nowhere near challenging, Meath are improving but a bit away. Armagh probably need a better defence and some man markers, or need to get a better defensive structure in place to challenge. Derry have a lot of good players and could cause a shock in Ulster in the coming years. Both Donegal and Monaghan will take something from Tyrone getting to the All Ireland and winning as they are never far away from Tyrone. Galway just seem to be lacking something it's hard to pinpoint the likes of Conroy, Comer and Walsh are serious and the likes of Cooke and Tierney are also very good. If they can get the likes of Cillian McDaid, Micheál and John Daly, Adrian Varley and Ian Burke back they will add depth back into their squad. I think both Tyrone and Mayo play a fairly similar type of game, and are strong at the running game, very good backs and man markers, also have some neat and lively forwards. Both overall I think Tyrone might shade it, Mayo I think for some reason would have preferred Kerry as they would have been able to do something similar to them that Tyrone done.

CartaDubh (National) - 30/08/2021 11:52:27

Clare Footballers - 1 Like(s)

Replying To club51:  "Hard luck lads, very nearly pulled it off, highly unfair Kildare going up and ye guys not. Ye fear no one, tare into the Kerry lads in a few weeks time , get that big field monster ye have to knock lumps out them. Clare is everyone's second favorite team at the moment (outside of their own county)"
Ay Yeah twas probably the Cork that cost us promotion. I believe we are a better team then Cork and we should have got a result against. We had drawn level in added time, with a man advantage but we let Cork waltz up the field instead to kick a leading under no pressure which was utterly frustrating. I think we will give it a good battle against Kerry, but if the game was on in Cusack Park I feel we might have a better chance. Kerry are looking formidable at the moment, but I think we can cause them some problems. Best of luck to ye in Mayo, ye look the form team and best team in Connacht, but I'm sure that there will be some sort of fight in either Roscommon or Galway which will hopefully make for an enjoyable and interesting Connacht championship.

CartaDubh (Clare) - 15/06/2021 21:02:37

NFL Div 2 - 1 Like(s)

Replying To TippRed:  "Clare football team are a bit of an enigma. They always seem to be able to hold their own in the league against teams of a decent tradition. They are well able to compete in Division 2 and never seem overawed. But they never seem as comfortable in the Championship. Tipp and Limerick are always a match for them and they never seem to bring their league form into meetings with Cork and Kerry."
In fairness we have had some decent runs in the qualifiers pushed Kerry to 4 points in 2014 and should have beaten Kildare in 14. 2015 we never really got going crippled with injuries we had six or seven forwards injured in the lead up the Cork game that year which has been the only year we have played Cork in championship. 2016 had a brilliant run in the qualifiers got to the All Ireland Quarter Final. 2017 we had a great to beat Kerry were a point up about 10 minutes into the second half with Kerry down a man Jamie Malone rattled the crossbar which would have put 4 up and in a strong position. While he also missed an early goal chance against Mayo in 17 which would have put us 8 points against them, which really shows that you have to take your chance against the better team. In 2018 we had a lot of new players in the panel as there had been a lot players from 2017 that were no longer in the panel for various reasons, such as retirement, taking a break, emigration and injury, so we had a lot of newcomers and inexperienced players playing against Kerry and we took an awful beating against them. We also threw away a 4 point injury lead against Armagh in 18 in a game we ended up losing by 4 points. In 19 we started stugglish to the Munster Championship but had a decent run in the qualifiers and we could have beaten Meath to make the super 8's. Last year we never got going after the covid restart to both the league and championship as our performances were poor. We can be a mixed bag and even though we have stayed up at times in the league we have struggled for consistency we can have a great win one week and the next play awful, like in the league in 2020 we had a great win at home to Kildare in tough conditions, then the next week we go play away to Roscommon where we only score 4 points. So that probably sums us up. This year is probably one of the only times we have been consistent in the league as we have put together 3 good performances and now seem to have a stronger panel, in the years gone by we have had very good starting 15 but at times in the past there has been a drop off in the standard of quality coming from the bench and players that have come off the bench have struggled to make an impact off the bench.

CartaDubh (National) - 31/05/2021 12:50:18

Come On Engerland.....Peoples' Views??? - 1 Like(s)

Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Actually there is a great clip on YouTube of fella giving out about the queen coming to Ireland and fellas who support English teams he says we should support Irish teams like St. Pats. He was asked who is his favourite player for St. Pats and he said "the fella in the green" he then says we should nt support English teams just irish teams and Celtic of course Wgat a muppet! You can google it by typing in "St Pats fan""
I heard the story actually behind that recently your man in question actually has no interest or doesn't have the first clue about soccer. The only reason he said St Pats was because they lives close to Inchicore and he got them mixed up with Shamrock Rovers.

CartaDubh (National) - 10/07/2021 08:11:31

Kildare Vs Dublin - 1 Like(s)

Replying To brian:  "The same keith barr who said he didn't even notice Lyons and had to be told about that afterwards The same referee who told Peter Fitzpatrick he was giving a penalty if he hadn't given a goal Every county benefits from terrible decisions we can all play the game. Anyways to the matter at hand. I've heard Kildare are probably missing a few key players and Dublin are getting some back which would suggest to me this game will only go one way. Kildare might hang on til half time or 50 minutes but I'd imagine once Dessie starts running the bench they'll burn off Kildare. Would be really great to see Kildare put up a performance and be there going into the last 10 minutes but given some of those missing unfortunately I don't see that happening. Wexford and Meath hunted in packs and Kildare will have to do that for 70+ minutes this weekend too. The worst thing is that even if Kildare do everything right and get 100% out of themselves on the day they could still lose by 10 - 15 points. Dublin were outstanding in the first half v Meath and abysmal in the second half. They'll look to make a statement this weekend and some of their leaders Fenton, Kilkenny, Mccarthy will demand more from their team mates."
I'm not sure what the referee was giving a penalty for the Joe Sheridan incident as just put his head down and dived for the line was no way fouled. Still probably the worst decision ever made in the history of the GAA only mad in the crowd or watching on TV to somehow see that it was carried over the line was the referee. If anything it probably should have been a free out before that as a result of a Meath player being in the square before the ball came in.

CartaDubh (National) - 30/07/2021 09:01:42

Lee Keegan Appreciation - 1 Like(s)

Replying To maximus02:  "Watched the game back last night and didn't realise at the time how well Lee played. Once again in an AI final he was immense and IMO was man of the match. Its increasingly looking likely he won't get his hands on Sam and it really is a travesty. Always performs on the big day and usually under adverse conditions. Must surely be Mayo's greatest ever player and up there with the greatest defenders to have played the game. A fantastic warrior. A 5th All Star beckons (although i doubt this will be any consolation to him) and possibly another player of the year nomination. Here is a good link of the analysis of Lee's play on the day! (https://www.mayonews.ie/sports/37379-lee-s-performance-for-the-ages)"
Morgan would have been my man of the match, but Keegan along with I thought Stephen Coen both were the stand outs for Mayo. He has had some great All Ireland final performances and had a brilliant year this year I think he is probably the best Mayo player ever or definitely in the last 20 or 30 years. The likes of Boyle, Higgins, Andy Moran and Ciaran McDonald would be up there as well, but Keegan has continuously performed in the big days.

CartaDubh (National) - 16/09/2021 09:03:55