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Replying To seanorinn:  "John Brady and his management team have it sussed and you will notice they do not panic this is a sign of a well controlled machine that has everything in hand. The best of luck to them in Ulster when they represent Cavan in the last Minor match in Ulster. Wouldn't it be fantastic if they get the last name on the trophy and bring it back to display to the true Cavan supporters.
John Brady has proven he has what it takes to be a good manager and the County Board should hold onto him as long as they can before another county tries to poach him."
Yeah John had it sussed in under 17 final and did not panic.
doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts:984 - 27/06/2017 10:20:15 2006176

With what he had at his disposal for the U17 match the result was expected as he was not able to use the quality U16 players This was agreed several months back. With the Minors John was able to use some of the U17 players as well so he had the best available to him and it showed last weekend. I would say he has shut up most of the bedgrudgers and long may he continue to do so. He has at least two more matches and who knows maybe an All Ireland as well. Now would that be brilliant or not."
The work done to date has been outstanding and hopefully the months ahead will bring further joy to all supporters. It appears that there is good forward talent on display.

kildare blue (Cavan) - Posts: 578 - 27/06/2017 16:59:34    2006414

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I think it really shows how managers are overrated. The under 17 s were absolutely annihilated in the final - does that make John Brady a bad manager ? The minors had two great wins so far in Uster - does that make him a good manager ? We like to build up managers as if they really had much control of whats happening on the pitch when the reality is they have very little. The real managers are on the field leading by example and encouraging and getting the best out of their team mates. Cavan seniors unfortunately don't have leaders on the field so it matters very little who is on the side line. Managers facilitate training and organise teams but I m afraid that's the limit of their effectiveness. Eugene McGee won Leinster and All-Ireland championships with a brilliant Offaly team , was then in charge of Cavan for four years and won absolutely nothing or never looked like winning anything.
There are numerous examples of this in all sports. If a team can make a break through and win something , then momentum can be created and the best players get on board and the manager becomes less and less important.
So good luck , John Brady in the Ulster final but I m afraid its very little about you !

tenyearplan (Cavan) - Posts: 147 - 27/06/2017 19:48:16    2006479

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Replying To tenyearplan:  "I think it really shows how managers are overrated. The under 17 s were absolutely annihilated in the final - does that make John Brady a bad manager ? The minors had two great wins so far in Uster - does that make him a good manager ? We like to build up managers as if they really had much control of whats happening on the pitch when the reality is they have very little. The real managers are on the field leading by example and encouraging and getting the best out of their team mates. Cavan seniors unfortunately don't have leaders on the field so it matters very little who is on the side line. Managers facilitate training and organise teams but I m afraid that's the limit of their effectiveness. Eugene McGee won Leinster and All-Ireland championships with a brilliant Offaly team , was then in charge of Cavan for four years and won absolutely nothing or never looked like winning anything.
There are numerous examples of this in all sports. If a team can make a break through and win something , then momentum can be created and the best players get on board and the manager becomes less and less important.
So good luck , John Brady in the Ulster final but I m afraid its very little about you !"
tenyearplan (Cavan) - Posts:104 - 27/06/2017 19:48:16

John Brady is a proven winner at management level/

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 27/06/2017 22:07:34    2006571

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Replying To seanorinn:  "tenyearplan (Cavan) - Posts:104 - 27/06/2017 19:48:16

John Brady is a proven winner at management level/"
Won one thing witj Ballyhaise and relegated year after.

doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 27/06/2017 22:43:01    2006591

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Replying To doratheexplorer:  "Won one thing witj Ballyhaise and relegated year after."
Won an U21 title with an amalgamation a few years ago as well With Lavey and KIlinkere I think it was so has won something. If you go back to looking for a new manager for the senior posts names that were bantered won nothing most of them. John Young thats with him knows how to win also.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 27/06/2017 23:16:26    2006604

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Replying To seanorinn:  "Won an U21 title with an amalgamation a few years ago as well With Lavey and KIlinkere I think it was so has won something. If you go back to looking for a new manager for the senior posts names that were bantered won nothing most of them. John Young thats with him knows how to win also."
Ehh.... he won 3 under 21 championships in a row with Assan Gaels

ramor101 (Cavan) - Posts: 289 - 28/06/2017 09:03:24    2006656

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Nice coverage of minors on TG4 on Monday night, repeated on Sat morning at 11.35am.

breffni47 (Cavan) - Posts: 34 - 28/06/2017 09:05:09    2006657

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Replying To ramor101:  "Ehh.... he won 3 under 21 championships in a row with Assan Gaels"
Replying To seanorinn: "Won an U21 title with an amalgamation a few years ago as well With Lavey and KIlinkere I think it was so has won something. If you go back to looking for a new manager for the senior posts names that were bantered won nothing most of them. John Young thats with him knows how to win also."
Ehh.... he won 3 under 21 championships in a row with Assan Gaels
ramor101 (Cavan) - Posts:239 - 28/06/2017 09:03:24 200

Thank you for that information this adds to my argument that both John's are proven winner. I wish them well with their team in Ulster and the all Ireland series.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 28/06/2017 09:40:35    2006671

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Important Minor Fixture Date Saturday August 5th to Monday August 7th
Ulster Winners v Connacht Runners up
Ulster Runners up v Connacht Winners
Both Connacht Semi-Finals take place tonight

Breffnisbest (Cavan) - Posts: 473 - 28/06/2017 11:24:21    2006736

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Replying To seanorinn:  "John Brady and his management team have it sussed and you will notice they do not panic this is a sign of a well controlled machine that has everything in hand. The best of luck to them in Ulster when they represent Cavan in the last Minor match in Ulster. Wouldn't it be fantastic if they get the last name on the trophy and bring it back to display to the true Cavan supporters.
John Brady has proven he has what it takes to be a good manager and the County Board should hold onto him as long as they can before another county tries to poach him."
Yeah John had it sussed in under 17 final and did not panic.
doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts:984 - 27/06/2017 10:20:15 2006176

With what he had at his disposal for the U17 match the result was expected as he was not able to use the quality U16 players This was agreed several months back. With the Minors John was able to use some of the U17 players as well so he had the best available to him and it showed last weekend. I would say he has shut up most of the bedgrudgers and long may he continue to do so. He has at least two more matches and who knows maybe an All Ireland as well. Now would that be brilliant or not."
Are there a lot of quality Under 16's this year? Any names stand out?
It is very surprising that the Under 16 management have chosen not to defend the Gerry Reilly cup this year in light of the fact that next year is the first year that Minor reverts to Under 17 I would have thought that this would give 3 or 4 great competitive matches to this group of players.
A baffling decision.

Breffnisbest (Cavan) - Posts: 473 - 28/06/2017 11:32:07    2006740

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Replying To seanorinn:  "Replying To seanorinn: "Won an U21 title with an amalgamation a few years ago as well With Lavey and KIlinkere I think it was so has won something. If you go back to looking for a new manager for the senior posts names that were bantered won nothing most of them. John Young thats with him knows how to win also."
Ehh.... he won 3 under 21 championships in a row with Assan Gaels
ramor101 (Cavan) - Posts:239 - 28/06/2017 09:03:24 200

Thank you for that information this adds to my argument that both John's are proven winner. I wish them well with their team in Ulster and the all Ireland series."
There were other managers involved there.

doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 28/06/2017 12:24:17    2006767

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Replying To doratheexplorer:  "
Replying To seanorinn:  "Replying To seanorinn: "Won an U21 title with an amalgamation a few years ago as well With Lavey and KIlinkere I think it was so has won something. If you go back to looking for a new manager for the senior posts names that were bantered won nothing most of them. John Young thats with him knows how to win also."
Ehh.... he won 3 under 21 championships in a row with Assan Gaels
ramor101 (Cavan) - Posts:239 - 28/06/2017 09:03:24 200

Thank you for that information this adds to my argument that both John's are proven winner. I wish them well with their team in Ulster and the all Ireland series."
There were other managers involved there."
There were other managers involved there.
doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts:989 - 28/06/2017 12:24:17 2006767


Yes with Assan Gaels but not with our county minors.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 28/06/2017 13:41:57    2006827

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Replying To breffni47:  "Nice coverage of minors on TG4 on Monday night, repeated on Sat morning at 11.35am."
Hi, Is this still available on the TG4 website (player). could you post a link please.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5520 - 28/06/2017 17:23:18    2007014

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Replying To s goldrick:  "Hi, Is this still available on the TG4 website (player). could you post a link please."
http://www.tg4.ie/en/player/home/?pid=5484254974001&teideal=GAA%202017&series=GAA%202017&dlft=34

eduardo66 (Cavan) - Posts: 64 - 28/06/2017 18:03:35    2007036

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Can anybody tell me how many players have played Full Back and Centre Half back during the Ulster Minor League and Championship?
Now I don't mean they wore Number 3 and 6 but they played in these positions

Breffnisbest (Cavan) - Posts: 473 - 29/06/2017 16:03:45    2007537

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Refreshing to see a Cavan team without a blanket defensive mindset, playing to their strengths attacking with speed and accuracy. Not so refreshing to see the usual management bashing in this county even when the team is an Ulster final playing flowing football. Good luck to Team and Management in Ulster Final hope they bring it home and these talented footballers are nurtured to enhance the senior team in the coming years.

BreffniBlue (Cavan) - Posts: 278 - 29/06/2017 17:37:04    2007587

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Replying To BreffniBlue:  "Refreshing to see a Cavan team without a blanket defensive mindset, playing to their strengths attacking with speed and accuracy. Not so refreshing to see the usual management bashing in this county even when the team is an Ulster final playing flowing football. Good luck to Team and Management in Ulster Final hope they bring it home and these talented footballers are nurtured to enhance the senior team in the coming years."
Well said, best of luck in Ulster and all Ireland series to a talented team.

blueman1903 (Cavan) - Posts: 885 - 29/06/2017 17:59:22    2007616

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Replying To Breffnisbest:  "Can anybody tell me how many players have played Full Back and Centre Half back during the Ulster Minor League and Championship?
Now I don't mean they wore Number 3 and 6 but they played in these positions"
Paddy Meade played full back in all league and c'ship games. With regard to no 6 centre half back the following players played this position in league and c'ship - Philip Rogers; Kevin Hendrick; Danny Cusack; Oisin Kiernan; Cormac Timoney and Evaan Fortune.

Virginiablue75 (Cavan) - Posts: 27 - 29/06/2017 18:01:02    2007617

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Replying To Virginiablue75:  "Paddy Meade played full back in all league and c'ship games. With regard to no 6 centre half back the following players played this position in league and c'ship - Philip Rogers; Kevin Hendrick; Danny Cusack; Oisin Kiernan; Cormac Timoney and Evaan Fortune."
Paddy Meade played full back in all league and c'ship games. With regard to no 6 centre half back the following players played this position in league and c'ship - Philip Rogers; Kevin Hendrick; Danny Cusack; Oisin Kiernan; Cormac Timoney and Evaan Fortune.
Virginiablue75 (Cavan) - Posts:26 - 29/06/2017 18:01:02 2007617


The reason the fullback was out is because he broke his wrist or arm not sure he did not play in the U17 final.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 29/06/2017 20:14:56    2007676

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These good minor teams are most of the 3 in a row Gerry Reilly cup winning teams which leads me to the question as to why we have no U16 team in this years competition.... Does anyone know why we are not takeing part as it has served us well in recent years....?

Sean.66 (Cavan) - Posts: 293 - 29/06/2017 22:17:12    2007727

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