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After a six day turn around, why do you try every way you can to trod on your own county, you have a serious problem you would be better get help and see someone soon.
blueman1903 (Cavan) - Posts: 885 - 25/07/2016 18:20:47 1889933 Link 1 |
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Yeah and last year people were hailing the achievements of Roscommon as a stick to beat Hyland with, Dean being one of the loudest. They were also shouting for McStay to be headhunted immediately as he was the next level up of manager that we so crave and deserve. Funny how no one mentions playing against New York football team unless it's some dry dig at winning the Inter Continental Cup or something.
Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 25/07/2016 19:36:07 1889973 Link 1 |
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Blueman...Clare played Laois on the 10th July, Sligo on the 16th July, Roscommon on the 23rd July, 3 games in 13 days, so if youre playing a 6 day turnaround on Cavan losing to Derry, I think its you that needs some help....Didnt Derry also have a 6 day turnaround? In addition, we played Carlow 6 days before the Derry Match, Derry played Meath, remind me again what Division Carlow play in? deanmartin (Cavan) - Posts: 643 - 26/07/2016 09:40:24 1890152 Link 0 |
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Hardtimes...Given the failures of Roscommom (whom we failed to beat in recent years), yet a hurling County beat them with ease, then McStay and Hyland should be beaten with the same stick!! Needless to say, knowing our County Board, they'll probably give it to Niall Lynch have his successful tenure as Co U21 manager....oh wait deanmartin (Cavan) - Posts: 643 - 26/07/2016 09:44:24 1890156 Link 0 |
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Tipp being a "hurling county" is the latest little gem you are hanging your arguments around Deano, they didn't just start playing football this year you know and frankly its insulting to them. I think it is time for Terry to go but my overriding feeling is disappointment for him, the players and true supporters unlike so many people on here suddenly crawling out of their holes again (and talking through them too) who are actually glad Cavan lost as it allows them to gloat...that can never be the measure of someone who genuinely cares about Cavan football
breffni47 (Cavan) - Posts: 34 - 26/07/2016 10:27:24 1890185 Link 1 |
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Why the hell does everyone want to get rid of Mr Hyland and his team. My target for our county seniors was promotion to division 1 well thats reached. Anything else after that was a bonus. Let's see how things pan out next year. If Mr Lynch does not make any progress with the U21 team next year he is hardly the man to take over the job is he. Maybe Mr Hyland should bring in some people with new ideas and fresh thinking this might be a step forward. It's time now that Cavan set out their own stall and stopped imitating other teams. Bring in fresh ideas. I wish everyone would just stop looking for managements heads and let things rest now for 2016. If things go belly up I don't think Mr Hyland will want to continue anyway. So give it a break. Most of us have our own ideas but thats all they are for no one will listen to us. The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 26/07/2016 11:45:22 1890263 Link 0 |
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Everyone knows that Tipperary and Clare are predominately hurling Counties, in fact, they've admitted that themselves, so hardly an insult to them. A lot of work has been put in to the football in both Counties, but they have faced a lot of obstacles in the past, no more so than the lack of support from their respective County Boards. Cavan has always been a footballing stronghold, so naturally, people are very disappointed when they see the likes of Tipp and Clare competing in All Ireland Q/Finals whilst our campaign has once again failed miserably. People seem to think that promotion to Division 1 should be Terry's lifeline, but most teams use the league as a chance to bed in and try out younger players. deanmartin (Cavan) - Posts: 643 - 26/07/2016 11:54:18 1890273 Link 0 |
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I'm sorry, but the line "Let's see how things pan out next year" just doesn't cut it. Yes we reached Division 1 and yes, congrats to Terry and his team for that. . .BUT. .draw a line under that in early May and look forward. We ar efacing into a championship and have made little or no progress over the past few years, what is our aim. . beat Armagh - naturally, they are in disarray and we should be beating them beat Tyrone and finally take that next step to an Ulster final - we fell short. Not the end of the world as the current Tyrone team are a terrific team Qualifiers: Beat Carlow - naturally, there's a huge gulf in class between us and them beat Derry - again, a team in disarray, hopeless in Ulster and way behind us in terms of their development - OOPS! this loss is simply unacceptable IMO. not to mention the fact that 90% of posters were querying why Terry was persisting with an out of form player starting ahead of those who had gained us promotion. The same player who cost us the game 2 weeks ago. Decimating the promotion-winning full-back line is not the mark of a man who is up to the job of taking this team to the next level I'm afraid. I hold no bias here, no dislike or destain - for the good of Cavan football, it is simply time for a change. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5194 - 26/07/2016 12:23:17 1890303 Link 0 |
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People seem to think that promotion to Division 1 should be Terry's lifeline, but most teams use the league as a chance to bed in and try out younger players. deanmartin (Cavan) - Posts:579 - 26/07/2016 11:54:18 1890273 The only way Mr Martin to find out if the Cavan seniors are progressing is to compete against the best. They have this opportunity now to show you and others they have made progress. I know what you are saying regarding new blood but this only applies to teams who have a reserve of fringe players. Right now as it stands Cavan don't have this luxury so back off enjoy the summer and look forward to February 2017 The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 26/07/2016 12:26:30 1890306 Link 0 |
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Sean....in regards to the best, do you mean Tyrone...how many times have we played them in recent times and how many times have we won? Have we not competed against the best in the Championship over the last 5 years - shall we give Terry another 5 years to see how he gets on? deanmartin (Cavan) - Posts: 643 - 26/07/2016 14:03:46 1890394 Link 1 |
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Speaking about progress Sean, how are they doing down in the rebel County, is Frank Murphy still running the show, sure we might get him to Cavan some day, see what improvements can be made in Breffni Park. Yourself and Tomsmith could meet him to discuss the way forward, we'll get a bit of food brought in from the meadowview. deanmartin (Cavan) - Posts: 643 - 26/07/2016 15:58:36 1890482 Link 0 |
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Tomsmith here Naw I would feel that seanorinn has long cut his ties with Cork. i feel that is was about 1974 or 1975 when he landed with a bang in Cavan town and I recall a rendering of My banks by the own lovely Lee, followed by City by the lee and a closing number of the Night the Goats broke loose...... being belted out in the Dew Drop Inn and you would hear a pin drop. But back to the discussion in hand I feel that Terence Hyland has done a great job for Cavan and the Hounds should be called back from him and not drive him away tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 3982 - 26/07/2016 16:49:14 1890511 Link 0 |
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Have to disagree Tom, a Cork man with a good voice....dont think so buddy, and back in 74/75, you wouldnt get away with a Cork song in the Dew Drop, particularly when in uniform!
deanmartin (Cavan) - Posts: 643 - 26/07/2016 17:09:51 1890538 Link 0 |
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Speaking about progress Sean, how are they doing down in the rebel County, is Frank Murphy still running the show, sure we might get him to Cavan some day, see what improvements can be made in Breffni Park. Yourself and Tomsmith could meet him to discuss the way forward, we'll get a bit of food brought in from the meadowview. deanmartin (Cavan) - Posts:583 - 26/07/2016 15:58:36 1890482 Tomsmith here Naw I would feel that seanorinn has long cut his ties with Cork. i feel that is was about 1974 or 1975 when he landed with a bang in Cavan town and I recall a rendering of My banks by the own lovely Lee, followed by City by the lee and a closing number of the Night the Goats broke loose...... being belted out in the Dew Drop Inn and you would hear a pin drop. But back to the discussion in hand I feel that Terence Hyland has done a great job for Cavan and the Hounds should be called back from him and not drive him away tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts:2669 - 26/07/2016 16:49:14 1890511 Mr Martin I don't think there is a Cork person that has much time for Mr Frank MUrphy sure isn't he Mr GAA. Mr Smith you know nothing about me for we arrived in Cavan several years before the date you mention. Also the Dew Drop was out of bounds to all that wore the uniform bet you did not know that. So Cavan have met Tyrone a few times but next year should tell you and everyone if Mr Hyland is the man for the job or not. All I am saying is twelve more months will not make much of a difference to find out. This is my opinion. The fact I have lived in Cavan for most of my adult live does not make me a Cavan person as you well know. (Since I was 20 years now 66 years) I am qualified however to have an opinion about my adopted county as my wife daughter and two grandchildren are all Cavan . But back to the discussion in hand I feel that Terence Hyland has done a great job for Cavan and the Hounds should be called back from him and not drive him away You will find in my posts that I agree with you about Mr Hyland. The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 26/07/2016 17:21:54 1890553 Link 0 |
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I would fear that if TH stays on we could end up like the Down team of 2016. cavan97 (Cavan) - Posts: 369 - 26/07/2016 17:46:24 1890562 Link 0 |
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roscommon had a 6-day turnaround after losing a replayed connacht final. intruth both Clare and Roscommon looked jaded. Derry and Tipp looked good and there was nothing in it, but for the unfortunate slip by Thomas Mallon while kicking out the ball that went straight to the tipp man and resulted in the goal, Derry would have won. you are reading too much in to narrow defeats in knockout competitions. The league is where it's at. look where we are... Div 1. We will be playing: Dublin,kerry,mayo,Donegal,Monaghan,Roscommon and Tyrone next year in a proper competition.
s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5520 - 26/07/2016 22:14:24 1890685 Link 1 |
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beat Derry - again, a team in disarray, hopeless in Ulster and way behind us in terms of their development - OOPS! this loss is simply unacceptable IMO. stupid statement. you guys have an opion about someone and then you invent "facts" to suit your opinion. There is little between derry,Roscommon and ourselves. it all depends on little things on the day s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5520 - 26/07/2016 22:49:26 1890704 Link 0 |
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Derry - again, a team in disarray There was a time when we the only teams we beat were those in disarray , now they're beating us!!!!As for Derry I suppose a county that has plied its trade in the top two divisions since 2008 when the leagues were restructured, played in 3 Div 1 league finals winning one ,won a div 2 title and beaten Ulster finalists , all in the last 8 years ,yea I can see how they'd be in disarray alright. As for being useless in the Ulster Championship, bit of the pot and kettle thing going on there,since Cavan's last appearance in the Ulster Final in 2001 every other county has appeared in the final at least once. aceofspades (Cavan) - Posts: 257 - 27/07/2016 10:13:13 1890821 Link 1 |
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SGoldrick - I'll tell you whats between Derry, Roscommon and ourselves, Derry beat us in the league and Championship this year, and as for Roscommon, need I say more!
deanmartin (Cavan) - Posts: 643 - 27/07/2016 10:24:20 1890827 Link 0 |
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Derry's current state vs. their status since 2008 are 2 very different things. Up until last year, they had Paddy Bradley and Enda Muldoon puling the strings (and others like McCloy at the back too). cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5194 - 27/07/2016 11:21:53 1890859 Link 1 |