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Replying To cavanman47:  "The CB offered him a 2 year extension.

Some clubs (a minority, not a majority) wanted rid.

He made a decision to step down (which he had already strongly considered) based on this."
Where are you going with the CB offering him a 2 year extension…. you are clueless… he had a year done of the 2 year extension they had given him and he had all intentions of seeing the 2nd year out only the CB stepped in and got rid of him as the clubs were going to forward a vote of no confidence in him…. Only one member of the CB were in favour of him staying on… They had seen enough… Nobody turning up to matches was the final straw…

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1900 - 17/08/2023 17:06:35    2501055

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The same players that somehow managed to win an Ulster title with also brought Cavan down to Division 4 because of bad management…. He is the only manager in Cavans history to bring Cavan down to Division 4 … He will always have that on his CV…. It's an embarrassment McHugh never achieved that's for sure…but he is gone now and hopefully the new man in charge will bring a change in the way we are playing… The few supporters left must have been bored completely out of their minds…

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1900 - 17/08/2023 17:18:34    2501056

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Martin McHugh took Cavan in 1994/5 from Division 3 strugglers up to Division 1.. Mickey Graham took Cavan from Division 1 all the way to the depths of Division 4 in just 3 years in charge… he managed to get an Ulster title by pure fluke and then the team went south…. When it comes to management at any level Mickey Graham and Martin McHugh are light years apart….Put that in your pipe but it might not fit as you are already smoking something that is badly effecting you …"
Pure fluke... what are you on about lad.

The one that Martin won was a pure Fluke with the point that never was. Your rhetoric is laughable.

Ring the missus to come get you

ponger (Cavan) - Posts: 540 - 18/08/2023 10:11:23    2501107

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Replying To ponger:  "Pure fluke... what are you on about lad.

The one that Martin won was a pure Fluke with the point that never was. Your rhetoric is laughable.

Ring the missus to come get you"
Foreverblue2 thinks cavan should avoid Jim McGuinness because he didn't manage another county job after winning an all Ireland. But Martin McHugh is great because he won 1 ulster with cavan. Don't remember Martin managing any other county but foreverblue2's fact books may have all the answers.

Thejampot (Leitrim) - Posts: 255 - 18/08/2023 13:37:18    2501165

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Replying To ponger:  "Pure fluke... what are you on about lad.

The one that Martin won was a pure Fluke with the point that never was. Your rhetoric is laughable.

Ring the missus to come get you"
Foreverblue2 thinks cavan should avoid Jim McGuinness because he didn't manage another county job after winning an all Ireland. But Martin McHugh is great because he won 1 ulster with cavan. Don't remember Martin managing any other county but foreverblue2's fact books may have all the answers.

Thejampot (Leitrim) - Posts: 255 - 18/08/2023 13:40:21    2501168

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Replying To ponger:  "Pure fluke... what are you on about lad.

The one that Martin won was a pure Fluke with the point that never was. Your rhetoric is laughable.

Ring the missus to come get you"
The whole of the country knows the wins against Monaghan and Down were more than lucky… the Final it self was a deserved win most probably because Donegal took us for granted after the lesson they gave us the year before…. The only team in Ulster to win a title and then drop into Division 4… that's the sign of a well managed team ponger..

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1900 - 18/08/2023 15:55:45    2501209

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Replying To Thejampot:  "Foreverblue2 thinks cavan should avoid Jim McGuinness because he didn't manage another county job after winning an all Ireland. But Martin McHugh is great because he won 1 ulster with cavan. Don't remember Martin managing any other county but foreverblue2's fact books may have all the answers."
Everyone knows he didn't manage another County team because he said when he finished up with Cavan he would never manage another county… He managed his club Killcar for a while…. I never said to avoid McGuinness because he didn't manage anyone else … I said it was because of the type of football he would have the team playing… although it wouldn't be much different than the sleep fest Graham was having them play…:.

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1900 - 18/08/2023 16:02:15    2501211

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Everyone knows he didn't manage another County team because he said when he finished up with Cavan he would never manage another county… He managed his club Killcar for a while…. I never said to avoid McGuinness because he didn't manage anyone else … I said it was because of the type of football he would have the team playing… although it wouldn't be much different than the sleep fest Graham was having them play…:."
Cant believe that some people cant see how Mcguinness team evolved from a very negative team to try and combat Dublins brilliance and give his team a fighting chance against them to playing tight defensive football and breaking at lightning speed using long footpasses into his full forward line and as a result blew Mayo away in a ten minute period with three great goals and won Sam. It was not his fault that all the Mickey mouse coaches in the country copied his defensive plan as it kept many of them in a job as their teams were hard to beat. Some clowns in cavan would not like him as cavan manager he would not touch it with a forty foot pole as there is no up and coming talent in Cavan.

breffnibluewhite (Cavan) - Posts: 452 - 21/08/2023 20:19:41    2501689

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Everyone knows he didn't manage another County team because he said when he finished up with Cavan he would never manage another county… He managed his club Killcar for a while…. I never said to avoid McGuinness because he didn't manage anyone else … I said it was because of the type of football he would have the team playing… although it wouldn't be much different than the sleep fest Graham was having them play…:."
Thats just nonsense, McHugh never said he wouldnt manager another County again, he merely said he was taking time out for family reasons.

The gamed evolved through the years and Jim Gavin set the standards, McGuinness had to find a way to beat the Dubs and by God he did and he'll be forever remembered for doing so, the difference being, he had a group of players to suit his system so trying to predict what he's going to do in his next job is impossible, he would have learned quite a lot over his time in soccer and completing his Uefa Coaching badge, not just about tactics but also as a man manager and new ideas so I've no doubt we'll see a new Donegal next year and they'll probably be in the reckoning for Ulster. He would've been ideal for Cavan, he would have brought a professionalism and a discipline to Cavan that we've never seen before.

As Mickey Graham, Mickeys name will be forever in the record books as the man that brought the Anglo Celt Cup back to Cavan after many many years and your whinging and moaning wont make a difference!

cavanblueman (Cavan) - Posts: 636 - 22/08/2023 15:29:03    2501794

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Replying To cavanblueman:  "Thats just nonsense, McHugh never said he wouldnt manager another County again, he merely said he was taking time out for family reasons.

The gamed evolved through the years and Jim Gavin set the standards, McGuinness had to find a way to beat the Dubs and by God he did and he'll be forever remembered for doing so, the difference being, he had a group of players to suit his system so trying to predict what he's going to do in his next job is impossible, he would have learned quite a lot over his time in soccer and completing his Uefa Coaching badge, not just about tactics but also as a man manager and new ideas so I've no doubt we'll see a new Donegal next year and they'll probably be in the reckoning for Ulster. He would've been ideal for Cavan, he would have brought a professionalism and a discipline to Cavan that we've never seen before.

As Mickey Graham, Mickeys name will be forever in the record books as the man that brought the Anglo Celt Cup back to Cavan after many many years and your whinging and moaning wont make a difference!"
If you were in the know at the time you would be privy to the fact than Martin Mc Hugh actually did say he would never manage a County team again after leaving Cavan but that hardly matters now… McGuinness did find away of beating Dublin but in doing so ruined club football in Donegal… Championship games ending 0-2 to 0-1 up there must have been a riveting watch… You are right in saying he would have brought a more professional approach to our set up but I very much doubt if he was ever going to be interested in the Cavan job… Mickey Graham will as you rightly say be remembered for leading Cavan to an Ulster title but he will also be remembered as the first Cavan manager to deliver Cavan to the depths of Division 4 football… that's not moaning it's just facts

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1900 - 22/08/2023 17:45:10    2501822

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I heard from a trustworthy source that only 3 candidates interviewed and that everything is being kept hush hush. He's never seen anything like it before. When you strip everything away and hear that you're only 4 candidates are the ones being apparently interviewed it's not much cause for celebration. Donegal awoke yesterday morning to the news that Jim Mc Guinness was back, what news will we wake to tomorrow. Even if you don't have the quality of footballers within the county getting a manager in with serious credentials gives the entire county including supporters a huge lift! I guarantee you Donegal will be fitter faster and hungrier next year- will Cavan be under our new manager. Ps for anyone dissing Mickey Grahams credibility after taking us to an Ulster title would want to go away and look at themselves!

visionary (Cavan) - Posts: 18 - 23/08/2023 07:45:25    2501847

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Replying To visionary:  "I heard from a trustworthy source that only 3 candidates interviewed and that everything is being kept hush hush. He's never seen anything like it before. When you strip everything away and hear that you're only 4 candidates are the ones being apparently interviewed it's not much cause for celebration. Donegal awoke yesterday morning to the news that Jim Mc Guinness was back, what news will we wake to tomorrow. Even if you don't have the quality of footballers within the county getting a manager in with serious credentials gives the entire county including supporters a huge lift! I guarantee you Donegal will be fitter faster and hungrier next year- will Cavan be under our new manager. Ps for anyone dissing Mickey Grahams credibility after taking us to an Ulster title would want to go away and look at themselves!"
No cause for celebration. you are 100% correct. Jimmy mcguinness has an outstanding cv as a manager. He is a professional man with many qualifications and experience in management. Donegal are very lucky to have him back. but you would just know that to hear him interviewed. and that is what his dressing room have to listen to. teachers make good managers because their job is to be good communicaters to youngsters. if you cant earn lads respect and keep him interested everything else to him is plain noise.
on graham. discounting the ulster win can you say with a straight face that big S has left the team in better shape than he found it? talking to a group of knowledgable football supporters at the week end and the feeling is that cavan were never further from an all ireland final than they are now. we lost our minds on the back of that sole win whereas other teams collect provincial medals like stamps with no fuss. when you see lads with tears in their eyes and wibbly voices after a provincial win you would suspected that in their own heads they had reached the height of their ambition. and down they went after that. we have a senior ulster titles like old hay in this county and more than anybody else in the province. id certainly take a 2 or 3 of seasons of div 1 football rather than another once off ulster title.

Creilly_Baby (Cavan) - Posts: 39 - 23/08/2023 12:28:16    2501891

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Replying To Creilly_Baby:  "No cause for celebration. you are 100% correct. Jimmy mcguinness has an outstanding cv as a manager. He is a professional man with many qualifications and experience in management. Donegal are very lucky to have him back. but you would just know that to hear him interviewed. and that is what his dressing room have to listen to. teachers make good managers because their job is to be good communicaters to youngsters. if you cant earn lads respect and keep him interested everything else to him is plain noise.
on graham. discounting the ulster win can you say with a straight face that big S has left the team in better shape than he found it? talking to a group of knowledgable football supporters at the week end and the feeling is that cavan were never further from an all ireland final than they are now. we lost our minds on the back of that sole win whereas other teams collect provincial medals like stamps with no fuss. when you see lads with tears in their eyes and wibbly voices after a provincial win you would suspected that in their own heads they had reached the height of their ambition. and down they went after that. we have a senior ulster titles like old hay in this county and more than anybody else in the province. id certainly take a 2 or 3 of seasons of div 1 football rather than another once off ulster title."
If you discount Jim Gavin's All Irelands, his record is actually very ordinary

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12116 - 23/08/2023 13:57:21    2501930

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Harsh truth - We are a club first county. Club football will always be king in Cavan. The county team and county football in general is an afterthought.

Ned_Stormcrow (Cavan) - Posts: 1071 - 23/08/2023 14:07:32    2501936

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Replying To Breffni40:  "If you discount Jim Gavin's All Irelands, his record is actually very ordinary"
thats a poor choice of comparison lad. outside his six all ireland senior titles jim gavin has won five div 1 league titles, seven leinster titles, along with the 2 leinster titles and one all ireland he won with the Dublin u21s before getting the big job as manager. Outside his single provincial title graham got us 3 demotions, and the two promotions back to div 2. but we still reside in that tailtenannn cup. which I swore I would never learn to spell correctly.

Creilly_Baby (Cavan) - Posts: 39 - 23/08/2023 16:10:47    2501966

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Replying To visionary:  "I heard from a trustworthy source that only 3 candidates interviewed and that everything is being kept hush hush. He's never seen anything like it before. When you strip everything away and hear that you're only 4 candidates are the ones being apparently interviewed it's not much cause for celebration. Donegal awoke yesterday morning to the news that Jim Mc Guinness was back, what news will we wake to tomorrow. Even if you don't have the quality of footballers within the county getting a manager in with serious credentials gives the entire county including supporters a huge lift! I guarantee you Donegal will be fitter faster and hungrier next year- will Cavan be under our new manager. Ps for anyone dissing Mickey Grahams credibility after taking us to an Ulster title would want to go away and look at themselves!"
I'll call it here and say Raymond Galligan will get it and dont be surprised if Hyland is in his background team.

cavanblueman (Cavan) - Posts: 636 - 23/08/2023 17:01:47    2501972

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Replying To Ned_Stormcrow:  "Harsh truth - We are a club first county. Club football will always be king in Cavan. The county team and county football in general is an afterthought."
Pure nonsense, one of most better looked after County teams in the Country, unfortunately, the talent in Cavan
is no up there with other counties.

cavanblueman (Cavan) - Posts: 636 - 23/08/2023 17:03:43    2501973

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Irish news has an article up that Galligan has got the Cavan job.

culchie123 (Cavan) - Posts: 17 - 23/08/2023 18:10:21    2501984

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Galligan confirmed as manager. Quite a good backroom team he has put together which a lot of the time is half the battle. Wish him all the best. It's left field, but he's the man now and time to get behind him and support him and the lads. Best of luck Ray.

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2380 - 23/08/2023 21:19:25    2501997

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This beggars belief, a lad with zero managerial experience has become an inter county football manager. It's a slap in the face to any coach old or young who work their way up the coaching ladder whilst Raymond Galligan walks straight into management with the county board holding the door open for him. I couldn't care less who his back room team is, it's irrelevant as he wouldn't even warrant a spot on ticket as selector. I'm beyond livid.

visionary (Cavan) - Posts: 18 - 23/08/2023 22:02:00    2501999

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