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Agree with the Mickey Harte comment above. Could he be persuaded?

Newman21 (Donegal) - Posts: 36 - 14/08/2023 12:08:44    2500446

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Have people not realised, applications are closed and the new manager will come from the previous 4 names mentioned. My bet is that it will either be Jayo or Galligan with the grim reaper (black death) as advisor to whichever one gets it. And be warned, if that is the case, you think Cavan football was in a bad state, it's only going to get worse.

cavanblueman (Cavan) - Posts: 636 - 15/08/2023 09:15:45    2500579

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Replying To cavanblueman:  "Have people not realised, applications are closed and the new manager will come from the previous 4 names mentioned. My bet is that it will either be Jayo or Galligan with the grim reaper (black death) as advisor to whichever one gets it. And be warned, if that is the case, you think Cavan football was in a bad state, it's only going to get worse."
No, I didn't realise applications are closed.

Who within the county board has officially confirmed this?

And who has confirmed that those are the only 4 applicants?

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5010 - 15/08/2023 09:59:50    2500588

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Replying To cavanman47:  "No, I didn't realise applications are closed.

Who within the county board has officially confirmed this?

And who has confirmed that those are the only 4 applicants?"
Ah stop....applications closed last week, interviews starting this month. Backroom teams were put together and presented.

cavanblueman (Cavan) - Posts: 636 - 15/08/2023 10:49:27    2500594

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Replying To cavanblueman:  "Have people not realised, applications are closed and the new manager will come from the previous 4 names mentioned. My bet is that it will either be Jayo or Galligan with the grim reaper (black death) as advisor to whichever one gets it. And be warned, if that is the case, you think Cavan football was in a bad state, it's only going to get worse."
There is no limit on applications. The only deadline was the date for clubs to put forward candidates. Other outside candidates could still apply. If the likes of Harte or such did apply, they're hardly gonna tell him to jog on as it's too late. Like he won't, I'm just saying as an example. It's a process, and a serious candidate would absolutely be considered still

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2380 - 15/08/2023 11:02:39    2500599

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Replying To Newman21:  "Agree with the Mickey Harte comment above. Could he be persuaded?"
No chance would he walk on a county unless it was a significant step up to a top table job in my opinion

Calving4Sam (Cavan) - Posts: 69 - 15/08/2023 14:53:12    2500647

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Replying To cavanblueman:  "Have people not realised, applications are closed and the new manager will come from the previous 4 names mentioned. My bet is that it will either be Jayo or Galligan with the grim reaper (black death) as advisor to whichever one gets it. And be warned, if that is the case, you think Cavan football was in a bad state, it's only going to get worse."
If it's down to those 2 then we are in trouble… Jayo would probably be the better of the 2 but I have no real reason for saying that… Cavan made a bad choice the last time in giving it to a rookie when we were a Division 1/2 type team… Graham brought us to the depths of Division 4 and implemented a dreadful style of football that drove thousands of supporters into such despair that they simply stopped going to games…. The paltry attendances at recent home matches bares testimony to this… I will say that our Championship win in Covid riddled circumstances while brilliant in such terrible times probably bought him a lot more time than what was merited… He wanted to stay on again but the CB advised against this as the clubs were going to take a vote against him… I think the CB have acted too slowly on this and if they end up appointing either of the 2 mentioned it's a road to nowhere… they might as well let Micky Graham stay on if that's all they can come up with…. As for your reference to the grim reaper…I don't think he should be involved in any capacity….!

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1899 - 15/08/2023 17:11:24    2500671

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "If it's down to those 2 then we are in trouble… Jayo would probably be the better of the 2 but I have no real reason for saying that… Cavan made a bad choice the last time in giving it to a rookie when we were a Division 1/2 type team… Graham brought us to the depths of Division 4 and implemented a dreadful style of football that drove thousands of supporters into such despair that they simply stopped going to games…. The paltry attendances at recent home matches bares testimony to this… I will say that our Championship win in Covid riddled circumstances while brilliant in such terrible times probably bought him a lot more time than what was merited… He wanted to stay on again but the CB advised against this as the clubs were going to take a vote against him… I think the CB have acted too slowly on this and if they end up appointing either of the 2 mentioned it's a road to nowhere… they might as well let Micky Graham stay on if that's all they can come up with…. As for your reference to the grim reaper…I don't think he should be involved in any capacity….!"
Cavan made a bad choice appointing Mickey Graham.

Well that's a unique take!!

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5010 - 15/08/2023 21:22:18    2500692

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Replying To cavanman47:  "Cavan made a bad choice appointing Mickey Graham.

Well that's a unique take!!"
1997 Ulster Senior Championship Winners - Cavan - Manager - Martin McHugh
2020 Ulster Senior Championship Winners - Cavan - Manager - Mickey Graham

There you go @foreverblue, thats what the records show. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!

cavanblueman (Cavan) - Posts: 636 - 16/08/2023 09:58:37    2500723

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Replying To cavanman47:  "Cavan made a bad choice appointing Mickey Graham.

Well that's a unique take!!"
Well if a manager take you from Division 1 to 4 and has his team playing sleep induced football then it stands to reason he was a bad choice… only lasted so long because of a very lucky 2020 Ulster Championship campaign….

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1899 - 16/08/2023 10:17:22    2500731

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Replying To cavanman47:  "Cavan made a bad choice appointing Mickey Graham.

Well that's a unique take!!"
He's all about unique takes. I'd ignore. He's doing his thing of complaining before any announcement, so if the new manager fails or if he succeeds then he wins both ways. Standard for him

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2380 - 16/08/2023 11:04:36    2500744

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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "He's all about unique takes. I'd ignore. He's doing his thing of complaining before any announcement, so if the new manager fails or if he succeeds then he wins both ways. Standard for him"
It's all about common sense….. The paltry attendance figures at Cavans last number of home games would surely suggest to even someone as narrow minded and naive as you that supporters had given up on Graham and the team's terrible style of boring football…. CB had to act but left it at least 2 years too long…

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1899 - 16/08/2023 13:17:02    2500781

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Replying To cavanblueman:  "1997 Ulster Senior Championship Winners - Cavan - Manager - Martin McHugh
2020 Ulster Senior Championship Winners - Cavan - Manager - Mickey Graham

There you go @foreverblue, thats what the records show. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!"
Martin McHugh took Cavan in 1994/5 from Division 3 strugglers up to Division 1.. Mickey Graham took Cavan from Division 1 all the way to the depths of Division 4 in just 3 years in charge… he managed to get an Ulster title by pure fluke and then the team went south…. When it comes to management at any level Mickey Graham and Martin McHugh are light years apart….Put that in your pipe but it might not fit as you are already smoking something that is badly effecting you …

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1899 - 16/08/2023 13:23:30    2500784

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Martin McHugh took Cavan in 1994/5 from Division 3 strugglers up to Division 1.. Mickey Graham took Cavan from Division 1 all the way to the depths of Division 4 in just 3 years in charge… he managed to get an Ulster title by pure fluke and then the team went south…. When it comes to management at any level Mickey Graham and Martin McHugh are light years apart….Put that in your pipe but it might not fit as you are already smoking something that is badly effecting you …"
And tell me, how did Martin get on in Division one ? In a group amongst, Wexford, Offaly, Monaghan & Sligo, he won 2 game, a measly 1 game more than Mickey in 2019.
When it comes to management, Mickey led a small parish team to Leinster club glory so i'd put him ahead of McHugh when it comes to management!

cavanblueman (Cavan) - Posts: 636 - 16/08/2023 17:02:03    2500861

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Replying To cavanblueman:  "And tell me, how did Martin get on in Division one ? In a group amongst, Wexford, Offaly, Monaghan & Sligo, he won 2 game, a measly 1 game more than Mickey in 2019.
When it comes to management, Mickey led a small parish team to Leinster club glory so i'd put him ahead of McHugh when it comes to management!"
You definitely are smoking something….and it's not good..!

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1899 - 17/08/2023 10:07:12    2500912

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "You definitely are smoking something….and it's not good..!"
Answer the question...how did Martin get on in Division 1 and what else did he win as a manager that makes him stand out above Graham?

cavanblueman (Cavan) - Posts: 636 - 17/08/2023 12:08:14    2500953

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Replying To cavanblueman:  "Answer the question...how did Martin get on in Division 1 and what else did he win as a manager that makes him stand out above Graham?"
Mc Hugh brought Cavan from Division 3 to 1 while Graham brought us from Division 1 down to Division 4 yet you believe Graham should be classed as the better manager…. You're logic is mind boggling.. Micky Grahams management style has put Cavan back years… With him being so good ( in your delusional opinion ) I wonder why the clubs and CB wanted rid of him…?

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1899 - 17/08/2023 13:15:41    2500973

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Sorry sorry, my mistake, stumbled into the wrong group again. I was after the forum on the New Cavan Manager

Calving4Sam (Cavan) - Posts: 69 - 17/08/2023 13:23:30    2500974

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Mc Hugh brought Cavan from Division 3 to 1 while Graham brought us from Division 1 down to Division 4 yet you believe Graham should be classed as the better manager…. You're logic is mind boggling.. Micky Grahams management style has put Cavan back years… With him being so good ( in your delusional opinion ) I wonder why the clubs and CB wanted rid of him…?"
The CB offered him a 2 year extension.

Some clubs (a minority, not a majority) wanted rid.

He made a decision to step down (which he had already strongly considered) based on this.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5010 - 17/08/2023 14:01:18    2500988

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Mc Hugh brought Cavan from Division 3 to 1 while Graham brought us from Division 1 down to Division 4 yet you believe Graham should be classed as the better manager…. You're logic is mind boggling.. Micky Grahams management style has put Cavan back years… With him being so good ( in your delusional opinion ) I wonder why the clubs and CB wanted rid of him…?"
McHugh brought Cavan to Division one but he also brought them back to Division Two, relegated from a group consisting of Wexford, Offaly, Monaghan & Sligo!

Graham brought us to Division 4 as he was experimenting with players and looking to bring in new blood, he did that, brought Cavan to successive Ulster Finals, winning one of them along the way and he also brought back to Division Two.

So again I ask you, what else of note has McHugh done as a manager that Graham hasnt?

cavanblueman (Cavan) - Posts: 636 - 17/08/2023 16:13:26    2501041

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