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Replying To cavanman47:  "Well, Mickey is gone. Looks like it was his own choice which he deserved. He deserves immense credit for what he's achieved as manager.

It would've been wrong to speculate on replacements while he was still in the job, but now that he's gone, who do people think will get it or want to see get it?

I'd only want an outside manager I'd they were proven. McGuinness, Malachy O'Rourke, etc.
Don't think McGuinness is a realistic option tho he has been involved with Galway last year and Down this year. O'Rourke is surely looking to get back into management and bounced back well from leaving Monaghan at a similar point to where Mickey is leaving us. Plenty of merry-go-round managers would be interested and I think it's critical we avoid that trap.

In saying that, I'd be 99% sure the CB will go for a local man. Not sure we have many within the county who have the experience needed."
Malachy o Rourke would be my choice but the county board need to act quick on that . Because I could see him being lined up for the Derry job after Sunday.
I hope the county board are bold and brave in terms of approach.
Preference would be Mickey Harte or Malachy O Rourke, but also Mickey Moran, Kevin Walshe, Declan Bonner, Oisin mcconville would be my potential dark horses.
I don't believe anyone internal in the county has shown enough to get the job in the last 5 years .

asdfg (Cavan) - Posts: 316 - 11/07/2023 12:16:30    2493765

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Replying To cavanman47:  "Well, Mickey is gone. Looks like it was his own choice which he deserved. He deserves immense credit for what he's achieved as manager.

It would've been wrong to speculate on replacements while he was still in the job, but now that he's gone, who do people think will get it or want to see get it?

I'd only want an outside manager I'd they were proven. McGuinness, Malachy O'Rourke, etc.
Don't think McGuinness is a realistic option tho he has been involved with Galway last year and Down this year. O'Rourke is surely looking to get back into management and bounced back well from leaving Monaghan at a similar point to where Mickey is leaving us. Plenty of merry-go-round managers would be interested and I think it's critical we avoid that trap.

In saying that, I'd be 99% sure the CB will go for a local man. Not sure we have many within the county who have the experience needed."
McGuinness and O Rourke are even more defensive. They invented that way of playing.

Cutler (Cavan) - Posts: 33 - 11/07/2023 12:48:24    2493779

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Mickey has made the right decision and new and fresh thinking is needed but the big problem is at under age level which is a disaster and getting worse by the year and until this is rectified it makes no difference if god himself is in charge and the future is bleak is their a decent defender in the county.

breffnibluewhite (Cavan) - Posts: 452 - 11/07/2023 13:03:38    2493784

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Well if you don't think playing an Ulster final at a very unusual venue in the last week of November in an empty stadium is not a tad strange then there must be something wrong with you…. I don't know why you keep harping on about Terry Hyland as I have never mentioned him… A new manager in now and hopefully he will play a better brand of football that will at least keep supporters awake…!!!"
As far as I'm concerned, it was an Ulster Final, the venue, the fans, the month, it was the same for both teams, and not to forget, Donegal were reigning Ulster Champions. It was Cavan's first Ulster Title since the 90s, the first back to back Ulster Final appearance since the 60s so I'm sorry if you slept through all of that, but for the majority of Cavan supporters it was a fairytale couple of years and a period that Graham should be applauded for. Many a manger passed through Breffni Park since McHugh left in the late 90's and none of them came close to what Mickey Graham achieved.
I thought the supporters would be wide awake now having slept through the 5 years of the Black Death!

cavanblueman (Cavan) - Posts: 636 - 11/07/2023 14:17:18    2493797

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James Horan is at a loose end!!!

fifty (Mayo) - Posts: 108 - 11/07/2023 15:58:50    2493816

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Replying To Cutler:  "McGuinness and O Rourke are even more defensive. They invented that way of playing."
Agree. They need to look outside Ulster.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2763 - 11/07/2023 16:29:46    2493835

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Graham took over a team in Division 1 and brought them to Division 4…. Any other manager in any sport in the world would have been fired before it got to that.. He clung on because of our 2020 Ulster win that came about in the strangest of circumstances but we have regressed massively since that which is not a good sign… We did gain back to back league titles ( Div3/4 ) but that wasn't a big ask to be fair.. We got to one Taltainn cup final where our tactics and poor management cost us dear and this year wen out with a whimper to Down in the QF… How in Gods name can anyone say we have progressed under this dour management…? Wakey wakey County board… are the paltry crowds going to matches not a big enough wake up call for you…? Get rid…"
You're extremely bitter. Under the management of Graham, Cavan reached their first final and won their first Ulster title in over 20 years.

Fontofwisdom (Cavan) - Posts: 128 - 11/07/2023 20:51:38    2493889

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Replying To Fontofwisdom:  "You're extremely bitter. Under the management of Graham, Cavan reached their first final and won their first Ulster title in over 20 years."
I'm extremely right and that's why he is gone…

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1899 - 12/07/2023 13:17:40    2493970

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Replying To Fontofwisdom:  "You're extremely bitter. Under the management of Graham, Cavan reached their first final and won their first Ulster title in over 20 years."
Precisely, first back to back Ulster Finals since the 60s, the first win since the 90's, when was the last time a Cavan man managed Cavan to an Ulster Title,

But never mind foreverblue, one minute he's saying the 2020 win was a strange win, and then he calls it a great win on another thread.

But you cant beat facts and you cant rewrite history, Cavan are in the record books for winning an Ulster Title in 2020, and Mickey Graham is in for having managed them and that's all that matters!

cavanblueman (Cavan) - Posts: 636 - 12/07/2023 15:42:31    2493988

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Replying To fifty:  "James Horan is at a loose end!!!"
Aye.. good shout

ponger (Cavan) - Posts: 540 - 12/07/2023 17:00:55    2494004

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Give it to Damien Donoghue. There's nobody in the county more passionate and has done reasonably well at underage level. Get someone like Kevin Walsh in around him as coach or maybe Paddy Tally might fancy something closer to home. Donoghue will actually go watch club games too.

LackenQuality79 (Cavan) - Posts: 28 - 12/07/2023 19:29:47    2494023

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "I'm extremely right and that's why he is gone…"
Oh ForeverBlue2 what will you do now that you don't have anyone to criticise. You come across as someone who had a fallout with the previous management or just a bitter person,hoping Cavan lose so you can give out. Maybe you are just a disgruntled U10 manager.
You will of course criticise the nest decision by the County board but question is, who do u want as manager

Desman (Monaghan) - Posts: 34 - 12/07/2023 20:33:35    2494029

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Replying To Fontofwisdom:  "You're extremely bitter. Under the management of Graham, Cavan reached their first final and won their first Ulster title in over 20 years."
Worth ignoring that poster. They've been denigrating and diminishing our Ulster win since soon after it happened. They're never happy and never will be

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2380 - 13/07/2023 08:44:28    2494058

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Replying To LackenQuality79:  "Give it to Damien Donoghue. There's nobody in the county more passionate and has done reasonably well at underage level. Get someone like Kevin Walsh in around him as coach or maybe Paddy Tally might fancy something closer to home. Donoghue will actually go watch club games too."
Ah Jesus will ya stop! It's a Manager we are looking for .

Breffni1969 (Cavan) - Posts: 510 - 13/07/2023 11:37:59    2494092

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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "Worth ignoring that poster. They've been denigrating and diminishing our Ulster win since soon after it happened. They're never happy and never will be"
Happy now we are shot of this clueless management team…..

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1899 - 13/07/2023 19:31:17    2494214

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Replying To Breffni1969:  "Ah Jesus will ya stop! It's a Manager we are looking for ."
There seems to be a bit a slight bit disrespect towards Donohue, likely due to his media commitments. But if we do end up looking internally, he would be my choice.
I liked what he done with the under 20s group last year. Smart, fast and clever football.
I was at the 20s game this year and they actually done a lot well in that game . It was more an individuals/leadership issue as opposed to a preparation or coaching one . The key difference was, Donohue never got a second bite of the cherry this year . How many chances did the minors and seniors get to fix things and try new things ?
From what I have heard his due diligence and preparation is top class so I would have no issue if it ends up going to him and the county board back him with a decent ticket.

asdfg (Cavan) - Posts: 316 - 14/07/2023 07:37:18    2494244

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Happy now we are shot of this clueless management team….."
Happy now...nah, you're forever blue, Jim Gavin could take over Cavan and you'd still find the negatives in it.

cavanblueman (Cavan) - Posts: 636 - 14/07/2023 09:38:09    2494259

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Replying To cavanblueman:  "Happy now...nah, you're forever blue, Jim Gavin could take over Cavan and you'd still find the negatives in it."
Jim Gavin wouldn't be that silly…!

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 1899 - 14/07/2023 10:15:44    2494274

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Replying To asdfg:  "There seems to be a bit a slight bit disrespect towards Donohue, likely due to his media commitments. But if we do end up looking internally, he would be my choice.
I liked what he done with the under 20s group last year. Smart, fast and clever football.
I was at the 20s game this year and they actually done a lot well in that game . It was more an individuals/leadership issue as opposed to a preparation or coaching one . The key difference was, Donohue never got a second bite of the cherry this year . How many chances did the minors and seniors get to fix things and try new things ?
From what I have heard his due diligence and preparation is top class so I would have no issue if it ends up going to him and the county board back him with a decent ticket."
So what's his track record that would make him a contender?

Breffni1969 (Cavan) - Posts: 510 - 14/07/2023 11:40:44    2494302

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i hope Donohoe management is better than his commentary on games. When we started out division 4 campaign 2 years ago and were barely scraping past teams he was on about good time management and running down the clock etc etc this was in a match against Carlow who were beaten by sligo the previous week by approx 20 points. It was 3 or 4 games in before he even realised we were playing very poorly against very limited teams not all ireland contenders and we managed to come down to their level. I gave up on him after listening to a few of these match commentaries.

breffnibluewhite (Cavan) - Posts: 452 - 14/07/2023 12:18:12    2494315

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