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I've noted the date and thread you posted this in. I hope that, when Cavan advance to the latter stages of this competition, and perhaps a trip to Croke Park, you stay at home. I'm proud to support my county and don't need your validation to do so. "Only fools pay to watch county football" you say!!! Disgraceful comment from a lad who posts regularly on a gaa forum. You should retract it!
Fontofwisdom (Cavan) - Posts: 128 - 05/06/2023 19:20:40 2484215 Link 2 |
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I would very much expect Cavan to make it to Croke park and if it suits me I will be there…. It doesn't mean that county football is a good watch… maybe you could take your head out of the sand and admit that the way football is played now it's terrible to watch … Thousands of people who don't attend any more can't all be wrong and by the way this is not just a Cavan thing it's all over the Country … As the old saying goes "a fool and his money are easily parted"
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3038 - 06/06/2023 10:21:27 2484290 Link 0 |
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Oh the irony, the irony! People who pay to watch County football are fools. Yet, if it suits you, you're going to pay to watch the latter stages of the Tailteann Cup!!! So by your own definition?
Fontofwisdom (Cavan) - Posts: 128 - 06/06/2023 11:48:43 2484351 Link 1 |
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Oh I know I will be a fool too…, but you who attends a lot of matches must surely agree that it's becoming turgid stuff to watch… Even at the weekend the Derry/Donegal and Tyrone/Armagh games were woeful viewing…. Teams don't even seem to try very hard until the 50/60th minute… the first half of nearly every game is a non event… It just has very little appeal anymore and this is reflected by the attendance figures all over the country….
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3038 - 06/06/2023 13:09:46 2484395 Link 0 |
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You're changing the parameters of the argument now. You originally posted insulting posts about Mickey Graham, his team, and the turgid and defensive football you claim they play. I countered you, saying that this was nonsense. Following this, noting how I agree with you that the Armagh performance was poor, I asked you to reference further examples as evidence of this claim. Instead, you referred to people like myself, who choose to support our county lads, as fools. I agree that the style played by Tyrone, Armagh, and others is a hard watch. However, I don't go to their games. I do pay to watch Cavan. What I see are players like Ciaran Brady, Oisin Kiernan, Carolan, Faulker, Clarke, two Maddens, being encouraged to go forward at every opportunity. Whats more, the team starts every games with three players who are out and out forwards. (On Saturday, they were Mckiernan, Paddy Lynch, and Oisin Brady) Were not Kerry and don't have 10 David Cliffords to throw onto the field. Nevertheless, the lads we do have out there a super players who burst a gut, often with little reward. Go to a few games and you might see this yourself.
Fontofwisdom (Cavan) - Posts: 128 - 06/06/2023 15:06:57 2484443 Link 2 |
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Oh I go to enough games to know that the football Cavan plays is rubbish…. They have some good players but our ultra negative Management set up won't let them express themselves…. especially in big games..: You take the Taltainn Cup Final v Westmeath for example… they had 24 kick outs and we conceded the whole lot and lost the game… did the same thing v Sligo and only they couldn't shoot they would have got a bag of goals… Clueless Graham couldn't see that and persisted with the same thing for the Final and we seen what happened… I know you will say " if Galligan didn't get sent off blah.., blah… " but we still lost… I think we can win it this year but it's simply not a team to be trusted under this management… He brought us from Division 1 to 4 and somehow people think this guy is a good manager…. Bonkers stuff… The acceptance of failure is our biggest problem…! ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3038 - 06/06/2023 16:57:02 2484497 Link 0 |
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Ah look, I or you can cherry pick stats to prove any point. In that year, Cavan battered Antrim in the Ulster championship and, due to not being defensive, lost to Donegal in Clones, despite a good scoring performance. I'm on a diametrically opposite plane to you. Lads like yourself go to games already planning to criticise and view what they see in a negative light. I go to watch my county do battle, hoping for them to win. Anyway, its been emotional but we're never going to agree. I'll continue to foolishly pay into county games and you should take up a hobby that doesn't anger you so much.
Fontofwisdom (Cavan) - Posts: 128 - 06/06/2023 17:40:39 2484521 Link 1 |
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You're 100% correct there. It's brutal to watch. I went to Ruislip but it suited me to go. Woeful football and as you say not just in Cavan. Everywhere. It's even difficult to watch it on the TV never mind having to pay to get in. There was a club match in Donegal a few weeks ago where the 2 goalkeepers were former outfield county players who spent the whole game playing out the field passing the ball sideways and backways. The half time score was 0-2 to 0-1. Breffni1969 (Cavan) - Posts: 510 - 07/06/2023 07:31:06 2484607 Link 0 |
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He cherry picks at everything, criticises Graham every chance he gets, yet forgets that Graham led the small parish of Mullinaghta to Leinster Championship glory, got Cavan to back to back Ulster Championships, the first manager since the 60s to do so, and our first Ulster Championship win, the first manager to do so in 30 years, and he defines that as clueless, I'd love to see what he thinks of Graham's predecessors (although he does rate TH for some strange reason), despite his abysmal record in Ulster. I can tell you know, Graham does not send his team out to be defensive, he picks a team, has his tactics, the rest is up to the players on the pitch, and if you cast your mind back to any of the big matches lost recently, I'd safely say, a lot of the turning points in those games came down to individual errors, the Tailteann Cup was there for the taking only for Martin Reilly to try a stupid cross field pass that was intercepted and led to the Westmeath goal, the turning point in the Donegal game was a long ball into the Cavan full back line and from recollection, a mistake led to the goal. Then we had the Armagh game, high expectations but the players simply didnt perform, I'd highly doubt that Graham told them to kick 16 long range shots from the 45 m line. At the end of the day, the manager picks a team, Cavan have enough experience and good players to go out and perform, but they dont, its very easy to sit back and point the blame at a manager who has achieved a lot in a young career. cavanblueman (Cavan) - Posts: 636 - 07/06/2023 09:29:23 2484631 Link 1 |
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We hammered the worst county team I have ever take the field and then lost to a very average Donegal team because of junior B type defending and for no other reason…. Going to county games years ago was greatly… you didn't know what to expect but now you know you are in for a torturous 50/60 minutes and then maybe some team might start to play when they fear the game is going away from them but mostly it's terrible stuff and people now voting with their feet… Imagine only 8000 turned up to see Dublin and Kildare in a championship game.,,, that says it all while in the meantime most hurling games are sold out long before the match day…. It's not hard to work out why….unless you're lacking in the grey matter area….!!!
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3038 - 07/06/2023 10:15:15 2484655 Link 0 |
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Lads it's a waste of everyone's time engaging Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12205 - 07/06/2023 10:28:52 2484665 Link 1 |
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It's good to engage and have different opinions and perspectives…. I don't think we have a good management set up but you do and I respect that.. l was never a TH fan as he was the first to introduce this slow game with the U21 team that while it brought success in Ulster I said at the time it would eventually take Cavan to the bottom and unfortunately I was proved right…. Hyland and now Graham are trying to mimic the top teams style of play but we don't have good enough players to do that so ultimately when we meet a half decent side we usually falter…: We even keep poor teams in games far longer than needs be by not going for the juggler and putting them away…. This is my view on things I'm afraid… I always want Cavan to do well but I think we are hamstrung by this management
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3038 - 07/06/2023 16:29:13 2484793 Link 0 |
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No comment
Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12205 - 09/06/2023 09:49:05 2485079 Link 1 |
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Please keep your answers nice and simple like that because Your 12000 odd posts don't have much comment either! You just find fault with what other posters say!
Breffni1969 (Cavan) - Posts: 510 - 09/06/2023 12:30:20 2485104 Link 1 |
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The reply that someone usually makes when they know they are in the wrong when questioned…!
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3038 - 09/06/2023 13:17:48 2485115 Link 0 |
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we need a Cavan v Meath final in this competition to generate a bith of interest otherwise cant see much of a crowd thats hoping we get that far which on current form is far from certain. breffnibluewhite (Cavan) - Posts: 479 - 11/06/2023 19:06:01 2485589 Link 0 |
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Current form? 3 wins in a row? 9 wins from 12 with 2 of the 3 losses being in dead rubbers? Promotion? Winning our last game by 16 points? Plenty of reasons why we may not make the final, but current form isn't one of those. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5197 - 11/06/2023 21:55:15 2485638 Link 0 |
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Isn't current form the most recent results? Sure we trounced Offaly in the last round and won our three group games.
Fontofwisdom (Cavan) - Posts: 128 - 11/06/2023 23:12:29 2485656 Link 0 |
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We got Down. Honestly that's the game I personally wanted, but with the draw and who we both couldn't get, it was always likely. Get them at home now, and see where we are at. Looking forward to Saturday already. Good weather given, and a festival of football the weekend for Breffni with the double header the next day too. I can see RTE or BBC wanting that game on live too Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2450 - 12/06/2023 09:20:31 2485693 Link 0 |
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100%. It's why I have stopped responding to that one person with the multiple accounts, agreeing with himself. Waste of time.
Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2450 - 12/06/2023 09:23:19 2485695 Link 0 |