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Replying To Cavan_Shambles: "Don't pay any heed to posters who defend the indefensible." Don't pay any heed to posters who defend the indefensible. Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 477 - 20/06/2021 13:08:56 Yep the reality is this has knocked Cavan football back at least 3 to 4 years and that is if we are capable of getting up through the Divisions again which currently you wouldn't be to confident off. We are also going to lose players some which would have happened anyway because of age but others may decide playing in Division 4 isn't for them. A few of them have Ulster medal from minor up to Senior and have dedicated the best parts of their lives to play for Cavan and may decide that its time to call it a day. RHF (Cavan) - Posts: 878 - 22/06/2021 09:07:42 2352528 Link
When you look at Wicklow today against a side who did not win a match in D4 this season shows the depths we have reached. Jack L (None) - Posts: 3141 - 27/06/2021 22:30:06 2353961 Link
Replying To Jack L: "When you look at Wicklow today against a side who did not win a match in D4 this season shows the depths we have reached." Maybe time to stop going on about Wicklow. Div3 was a major disappointment as was the loss to Wicklow. However we are not a Div4 team in ability terms and we are Ulster champions. So lets lay of the negativity for a week or two till we at least get past the Tyrone game. fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1485 - 28/06/2021 10:19:39 2354045 Link
Replying To Jack L: "When you look at Wicklow today against a side who did not win a match in D4 this season shows the depths we have reached." exactly. Also looking at Donegal yesterday it is baffling how we beat them last year and now we cant win against div 3 teams. s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5520 - 28/06/2021 10:28:34 2354050 Link
Replying To s goldrick: "exactly. Also looking at Donegal yesterday it is baffling how we beat them last year and now we cant win against div 3 teams." Beating them was a complete and utter fluke…. but it was sweet all the same… ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3027 - 28/06/2021 12:41:04 2354116 Link
Replying To ForeverBlue2: "Beating them was a complete and utter fluke…. but it was sweet all the same…" A fluke? We tactically nullified their main men. We won the midfield battle. We were better prepared tactically and we were mentally more hungry than they were. What was flukey about it? cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5193 - 28/06/2021 14:04:12 2354165 Link
Replying To cavanman47: "A fluke? We tactically nullified their main men. We won the midfield battle. We were better prepared tactically and we were mentally more hungry than they were. What was flukey about it?" And we had a ref that gave us nothing and played 20 mins with 14 men. Nothing flukey about it and only a traitor to the county would say such a thing. fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1485 - 28/06/2021 15:45:12 2354227 Link
Replying To fredflint: "And we had a ref that gave us nothing and played 20 mins with 14 men. Nothing flukey about it and only a traitor to the county would say such a thing." Spot on! fifty (Mayo) - Posts: 108 - 28/06/2021 19:12:47 2354316 Link
Replying To fredflint: "And we had a ref that gave us nothing and played 20 mins with 14 men. Nothing flukey about it and only a traitor to the county would say such a thing." There is something very pathetic about people who have decided that our 2020 ulster championship win was a fluke. l still watch the final match on youtube and it does my heart good the manner in which Cavan took their scores that day. PURE CLASS. Declankillann. declankillann (Dublin) - Posts: 83 - 28/06/2021 20:07:12 2354337 Link
Yeah. We have every right as fans to expect better than what we've seen in the league this year. But the way some "fans" are using the poor league showings to attempt to de-value what was a full-value win last year in the face of some serious adversity is indeed pathetic. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5193 - 28/06/2021 20:17:32 2354343 Link
Replying To fredflint: "And we had a ref that gave us nothing and played 20 mins with 14 men. Nothing flukey about it and only a traitor to the county would say such a thing." Fluke or no fluke. Winning the Ulster title meant nothing against Wicklow. Wicklow survived in D3 and made a humble exit from the championship yesterday. Winning an Ulster title last year and will not be competing for SAM next year unless they somehow reach an Ulster final/ FACT Jack L (None) - Posts: 3141 - 28/06/2021 21:09:21 2354370 Link
The Ulster Final was a class game of ball Cavan pulled Donegal into a battle and they weren't ready for it The best game of the year IMO Maroonedinlongford2 (Galway) - Posts: 39 - 28/06/2021 21:24:42 2354374 Link
Replying To Maroonedinlongford2: "The Ulster Final was a class game of ball Cavan pulled Donegal into a battle and they weren't ready for it The best game of the year IMO" No denying an Ulster success. Twill be hard to repeat these heroics against London, Waterford, Sligo, Leitrim and co. Hope there is no slip up in any of these matches and compete with Tipp for promotion. No match cannot be taken for granted. Every match will need to be treated with the same respect as the Ulster final of 2020. Jack L (None) - Posts: 3141 - 28/06/2021 22:30:11 2354393 Link
Replying To Jack L: "Fluke or no fluke. Winning the Ulster title meant nothing against Wicklow. Wicklow survived in D3 and made a humble exit from the championship yesterday. Winning an Ulster title last year and will not be competing for SAM next year unless they somehow reach an Ulster final/ FACT" Yes that is an amazing FACT, one we are all very aware of thanks. fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1485 - 28/06/2021 23:35:58 2354414 Link
It was a total freak result which is shown by the type of results and performances largely the same group of players are producing since….. A fluke result is one that rarely happens and if it was no fluke then we should have nothing to worry about against Tyrone…. ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3027 - 28/06/2021 23:46:40 2354417 Link
Wicklows Championship exit to Wexford just makes our pathetic effort against them seem even more embarrassing…. We must have done a Donegal and took the opposition for granted… All down to pure bad management… ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3027 - 29/06/2021 08:53:32 2354455 Link
Replying To ForeverBlue2: "It was a total freak result which is shown by the type of results and performances largely the same group of players are producing since….. A fluke result is one that rarely happens and if it was no fluke then we should have nothing to worry about against Tyrone…." Well it looks like if we do lose to Tyrone one man (ie you,) will be happy on the Sunday morning pile on on these forums. We all know the result against Wuckow was bad and unacceptable, we all know what it means. But yet you and one or two others are determined to keep going on about it. To what end? What is the point to all your ranting? Do you want Graham sacked 2 weeks out from Tyrone, do you think your ultra negativity us a help or are you just one of these people that can find no joy in life and can only find joy in bthing and moaning all the time? My personal opinion on Tyrone is we will probably come up a bit short on the day as current form suggests we've too much improvement to make to turn them over. However I expect we will show we are close enough. If this comes to pass i will not be calling for Graham's head as he has 2 good ulster campaigns behind him, 2 wins against monaghan, only 1 defeat and an ulster title in the last 2 seasons. fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1485 - 29/06/2021 13:04:12 2354586 Link
Replying To fredflint: "Well it looks like if we do lose to Tyrone one man (ie you,) will be happy on the Sunday morning pile on on these forums. We all know the result against Wuckow was bad and unacceptable, we all know what it means. But yet you and one or two others are determined to keep going on about it. To what end? What is the point to all your ranting? Do you want Graham sacked 2 weeks out from Tyrone, do you think your ultra negativity us a help or are you just one of these people that can find no joy in life and can only find joy in bthing and moaning all the time? My personal opinion on Tyrone is we will probably come up a bit short on the day as current form suggests we've too much improvement to make to turn them over. However I expect we will show we are close enough. If this comes to pass i will not be calling for Graham's head as he has 2 good ulster campaigns behind him, 2 wins against monaghan, only 1 defeat and an ulster title in the last 2 seasons." Good post, Even if we take a heavy beating, which is possible for about 27 counties when they play Tyrone in Omagh, the worst thing we could do is get rid of Graham. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5193 - 29/06/2021 13:18:00 2354588 Link
Replying To cavanman47: "Good post, Even if we take a heavy beating, which is possible for about 27 counties when they play Tyrone in Omagh, the worst thing we could do is get rid of Graham." He will be gone after this year's Championship….. he is not the 1st manager to lead us to an Ulster title but he is the 1st to lead us into Division 4 which is totally unacceptable…. No manager in history could or should survive 3 relegations in a row…. Winning Ulster was brilliant but there is no way anyone can say Graham has made progress by landing the County in basement football…. I have no doubt we can put it up to Tyrone but our football is not in a good place at present ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3027 - 29/06/2021 16:13:47 2354655 Link
Replying To ForeverBlue2: "He will be gone after this year's Championship….. he is not the 1st manager to lead us to an Ulster title but he is the 1st to lead us into Division 4 which is totally unacceptable…. No manager in history could or should survive 3 relegations in a row…. Winning Ulster was brilliant but there is no way anyone can say Graham has made progress by landing the County in basement football…. I have no doubt we can put it up to Tyrone but our football is not in a good place at present" Yes, mickey Graham is not the 1st man to win an ulster title with Cavan We had Mickie Graham 2020 (9 months ago) Martin McHugh 1997 (24 years ago) Mick Higgins 1969 (52 years ago) So in half a century that's your not so long list fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1485 - 29/06/2021 16:53:25 2354667 Link