How wonderful to see so many Cavan players make so many choices for team of the year. The 2 galligans must be odds on for all star awards. Longer odds on Faulkner, Brady and a few others. However, we can hardly expect more than two. Declankillann
declankillann (Dublin) - Posts: 83 - 13/01/2021 14:20:31
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Replying To declankillann: "How wonderful to see so many Cavan players make so many choices for team of the year. The 2 galligans must be odds on for all star awards. Longer odds on Faulkner, Brady and a few others. However, we can hardly expect more than two. Declankillann" Great news and well deserved hope they get an all star give them a big incentive to go for a few more. Well done lads.
[email protected] (Cavan) - Posts: 138 - 13/01/2021 15:25:33
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i say faulkner also has a good chance as not many our standing full backs.
breffnibluewhite (Cavan) - Posts: 472 - 13/01/2021 19:19:33
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Replying To breffnibluewhite: "i say faulkner also has a good chance as not many our standing full backs." Hes the most deserving, no question. I do think they'll give it to Davy Byrne tho. Hopefully not.
cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5105 - 14/01/2021 17:31:55
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I'd say they have the team picked already, that's why they took Galligan out of midfield. MaCarthy and Fenton will get those spots.
In the forwards you have Sweeney, O'Callaghan, Kilkenny, Galligan nailed on, with between O'Connor, Scully, Rock for the last 2.
Goalie is a certainty.
Faulkners lack of pace showed him up a few times against the dub's so that might stand against him. I thought Smith had a solid year and wing back, thought Jason McLoughlin was unlucky not to get a nomination. The defenders might be Byrne, Fitzsimons, McLoughlin, Durcan, McDaid with Faulkner, Fahy, Small looking for the last spot.
wishfulthinkin (Cavan) - Posts: 1707 - 15/01/2021 13:49:13
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Replying To wishfulthinkin: "I'd say they have the team picked already, that's why they took Galligan out of midfield. MaCarthy and Fenton will get those spots.
In the forwards you have Sweeney, O'Callaghan, Kilkenny, Galligan nailed on, with between O'Connor, Scully, Rock for the last 2.
Goalie is a certainty.
Faulkners lack of pace showed him up a few times against the dub's so that might stand against him. I thought Smith had a solid year and wing back, thought Jason McLoughlin was unlucky not to get a nomination. The defenders might be Byrne, Fitzsimons, McLoughlin, Durcan, McDaid with Faulkner, Fahy, Small looking for the last spot." Raymond will get no.1. Thomas Galligan is no longer nailed on in the forwards. People presumed J McCarthy would be a wing back with Fenton and Galligan midfield. Cillian O Connor is nailed on in FF line along with Sweeney Kilkenny Con Rock. Last spot between Scully and Galligan. Brady now has good chance in half back line that McCarthy is in midfield. I think either him or Faulkner will get one too depending on what way they line out the backs.
theDagger1986 (Cavan) - Posts: 181 - 15/01/2021 15:53:14
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Gearoid at midfield so?
thegadfly (Cavan) - Posts: 290 - 17/01/2021 18:49:13
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Replying To thegadfly: "Gearoid at midfield so?" Fenton and McCarthy by a country mile. Still think there would be 15 more deserving recipients had McCarthy been nominated at half back with Galligan MF and 6 other forwards.
cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5105 - 17/01/2021 22:59:16
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Replying To theDagger1986: "Raymond will get no.1. Thomas Galligan is no longer nailed on in the forwards. People presumed J McCarthy would be a wing back with Fenton and Galligan midfield. Cillian O Connor is nailed on in FF line along with Sweeney Kilkenny Con Rock. Last spot between Scully and Galligan. Brady now has good chance in half back line that McCarthy is in midfield. I think either him or Faulkner will get one too depending on what way they line out the backs." Thomas Galligan is more deserving of an All Star than any other Cavan player and has to get one or no one will want one next year. The fact that David Clifford & Shane Walsh got nominated is the only worry there as there was no logic used in picking either of those two for what they did in the c'ship this year (or not).
Raymond then is the standout in his position and should also get one, and Faulkner the best player on the team and there are possibly less standout backs than forwards with their head up for All Stars so we might get a Third.
No one disgraced themselves against the Dubs or went backwards in the race for an award I don't think. Cavan Management was probably at fault for the underuse of Tomas Galligan as much as he was quitened by the Dubs. He should have been brought out more or it kicked in more. The exception to that Dubs rule then was probably Ciaran Brady & Martin Reilly who pushed themeselves into nomination contention with good performances against the Dubs, but the awards will be handed out for the biggest contributors to the Ulster success. I see Martin Reilly is in Donaghy's team but I think if we are only getting 3 at most then his Ulster performances don't put him in the running. I'd have Ciaran Brady as the unlucky loser and this would be my All Start Team assuming you have to pick players in the category they were nominated in:
1. Raymond Galligan (Cavan)
2. Oisin Mullin (Mayo) 3. Mick Fitzsimons (Dublin) 4. Padraig Faulkner (Cavan)
5. Davy Byrne (Dublin) 6. John Small (Dublin) 7. Paddy Durkan (Dublin)
8. James McCarthy (Dublin) 9. Brian Fenton (Dublin)
10. Niall Scully (Dublin) 11. Con O'Callaghan (Dublin) 12. Thomas Galligan (Cavan)
13. Conor Sweeney (Tipperary) 14. Ciaran Kilkenny (Dublin) 15. Cillian O'Connor (Mayo)
Davy Byrne is out of position but he and Fitzsimons are more deserving of All Stars than Murchan & McDaid for me, and both had to be fitted in based on a good All Ireland final performances rather than just getting a few scores against the Cannon fodder.
PatTheDandy (Cavan) - Posts: 356 - 19/01/2021 10:06:33
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Replying To PatTheDandy: "Thomas Galligan is more deserving of an All Star than any other Cavan player and has to get one or no one will want one next year. The fact that David Clifford & Shane Walsh got nominated is the only worry there as there was no logic used in picking either of those two for what they did in the c'ship this year (or not).
Raymond then is the standout in his position and should also get one, and Faulkner the best player on the team and there are possibly less standout backs than forwards with their head up for All Stars so we might get a Third.
No one disgraced themselves against the Dubs or went backwards in the race for an award I don't think. Cavan Management was probably at fault for the underuse of Tomas Galligan as much as he was quitened by the Dubs. He should have been brought out more or it kicked in more. The exception to that Dubs rule then was probably Ciaran Brady & Martin Reilly who pushed themeselves into nomination contention with good performances against the Dubs, but the awards will be handed out for the biggest contributors to the Ulster success. I see Martin Reilly is in Donaghy's team but I think if we are only getting 3 at most then his Ulster performances don't put him in the running. I'd have Ciaran Brady as the unlucky loser and this would be my All Start Team assuming you have to pick players in the category they were nominated in:
1. Raymond Galligan (Cavan)
2. Oisin Mullin (Mayo) 3. Mick Fitzsimons (Dublin) 4. Padraig Faulkner (Cavan)
5. Davy Byrne (Dublin) 6. John Small (Dublin) 7. Paddy Durkan (Dublin)
8. James McCarthy (Dublin) 9. Brian Fenton (Dublin)
10. Niall Scully (Dublin) 11. Con O'Callaghan (Dublin) 12. Thomas Galligan (Cavan)
13. Conor Sweeney (Tipperary) 14. Ciaran Kilkenny (Dublin) 15. Cillian O'Connor (Mayo)
Davy Byrne is out of position but he and Fitzsimons are more deserving of All Stars than Murchan & McDaid for me, and both had to be fitted in based on a good All Ireland final performances rather than just getting a few scores against the Cannon fodder. " I think I agree with your team. Only possible exception Dean Rock in for Scully, but the annual cries from the Dublin fans and former players are for Scully this year so I think he'll get it.
cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5105 - 19/01/2021 10:42:48
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Niall Scully deserves his place. Ciaran Brady best other from a Cavan perspective. Martin Reilly too similar a player to Scully. Our best over past few years but Dubs on another level and Scully probably one of their most consistent if unsung?
Wewasrobbedin67 (Cavan) - Posts: 2 - 19/01/2021 21:03:53
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Replying To PatTheDandy: "Thomas Galligan is more deserving of an All Star than any other Cavan player and has to get one or no one will want one next year. The fact that David Clifford & Shane Walsh got nominated is the only worry there as there was no logic used in picking either of those two for what they did in the c'ship this year (or not).
Raymond then is the standout in his position and should also get one, and Faulkner the best player on the team and there are possibly less standout backs than forwards with their head up for All Stars so we might get a Third.
No one disgraced themselves against the Dubs or went backwards in the race for an award I don't think. Cavan Management was probably at fault for the underuse of Tomas Galligan as much as he was quitened by the Dubs. He should have been brought out more or it kicked in more. The exception to that Dubs rule then was probably Ciaran Brady & Martin Reilly who pushed themeselves into nomination contention with good performances against the Dubs, but the awards will be handed out for the biggest contributors to the Ulster success. I see Martin Reilly is in Donaghy's team but I think if we are only getting 3 at most then his Ulster performances don't put him in the running. I'd have Ciaran Brady as the unlucky loser and this would be my All Start Team assuming you have to pick players in the category they were nominated in:
1. Raymond Galligan (Cavan)
2. Oisin Mullin (Mayo) 3. Mick Fitzsimons (Dublin) 4. Padraig Faulkner (Cavan)
5. Davy Byrne (Dublin) 6. John Small (Dublin) 7. Paddy Durkan (Dublin)
8. James McCarthy (Dublin) 9. Brian Fenton (Dublin)
10. Niall Scully (Dublin) 11. Con O'Callaghan (Dublin) 12. Thomas Galligan (Cavan)
13. Conor Sweeney (Tipperary) 14. Ciaran Kilkenny (Dublin) 15. Cillian O'Connor (Mayo)
Davy Byrne is out of position but he and Fitzsimons are more deserving of All Stars than Murchan & McDaid for me, and both had to be fitted in based on a good All Ireland final performances rather than just getting a few scores against the Cannon fodder. " Think James McCarthy will be selected at Centre back, Thomas Galligan at midfield. Rock will be in the forwards, It will be between Faulkner and Byrne in the full back line
FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2791 - 20/01/2021 10:43:18
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@FoolsGold I thought someone said they had to be selected in the category they were nominated in?
PatTheDandy (Cavan) - Posts: 356 - 20/01/2021 11:07:50
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Unless they have changed the rules? There was previous players selected in positions where they weren't nominated. Colm Cavanagh at full back,when nominates at midfield. Brian Howard at centre back when nominated at half forward
FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2791 - 20/01/2021 12:29:03
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Replying To PatTheDandy: "Thomas Galligan is more deserving of an All Star than any other Cavan player and has to get one or no one will want one next year. The fact that David Clifford & Shane Walsh got nominated is the only worry there as there was no logic used in picking either of those two for what they did in the c'ship this year (or not).
Raymond then is the standout in his position and should also get one, and Faulkner the best player on the team and there are possibly less standout backs than forwards with their head up for All Stars so we might get a Third.
No one disgraced themselves against the Dubs or went backwards in the race for an award I don't think. Cavan Management was probably at fault for the underuse of Tomas Galligan as much as he was quitened by the Dubs. He should have been brought out more or it kicked in more. The exception to that Dubs rule then was probably Ciaran Brady & Martin Reilly who pushed themeselves into nomination contention with good performances against the Dubs, but the awards will be handed out for the biggest contributors to the Ulster success. I see Martin Reilly is in Donaghy's team but I think if we are only getting 3 at most then his Ulster performances don't put him in the running. I'd have Ciaran Brady as the unlucky loser and this would be my All Start Team assuming you have to pick players in the category they were nominated in:
1. Raymond Galligan (Cavan)
2. Oisin Mullin (Mayo) 3. Mick Fitzsimons (Dublin) 4. Padraig Faulkner (Cavan)
5. Davy Byrne (Dublin) 6. John Small (Dublin) 7. Paddy Durkan (Dublin)
8. James McCarthy (Dublin) 9. Brian Fenton (Dublin)
10. Niall Scully (Dublin) 11. Con O'Callaghan (Dublin) 12. Thomas Galligan (Cavan)
13. Conor Sweeney (Tipperary) 14. Ciaran Kilkenny (Dublin) 15. Cillian O'Connor (Mayo)
Davy Byrne is out of position but he and Fitzsimons are more deserving of All Stars than Murchan & McDaid for me, and both had to be fitted in based on a good All Ireland final performances rather than just getting a few scores against the Cannon fodder. " Why Oisin Mullin? Very inconsistent imo
thegadfly (Cavan) - Posts: 290 - 20/01/2021 21:36:39
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Replying To thegadfly: " Replying To PatTheDandy: "Thomas Galligan is more deserving of an All Star than any other Cavan player and has to get one or no one will want one next year. The fact that David Clifford & Shane Walsh got nominated is the only worry there as there was no logic used in picking either of those two for what they did in the c'ship this year (or not).
Raymond then is the standout in his position and should also get one, and Faulkner the best player on the team and there are possibly less standout backs than forwards with their head up for All Stars so we might get a Third.
No one disgraced themselves against the Dubs or went backwards in the race for an award I don't think. Cavan Management was probably at fault for the underuse of Tomas Galligan as much as he was quitened by the Dubs. He should have been brought out more or it kicked in more. The exception to that Dubs rule then was probably Ciaran Brady & Martin Reilly who pushed themeselves into nomination contention with good performances against the Dubs, but the awards will be handed out for the biggest contributors to the Ulster success. I see Martin Reilly is in Donaghy's team but I think if we are only getting 3 at most then his Ulster performances don't put him in the running. I'd have Ciaran Brady as the unlucky loser and this would be my All Start Team assuming you have to pick players in the category they were nominated in:
1. Raymond Galligan (Cavan)
2. Oisin Mullin (Mayo) 3. Mick Fitzsimons (Dublin) 4. Padraig Faulkner (Cavan)
5. Davy Byrne (Dublin) 6. John Small (Dublin) 7. Paddy Durkan (Dublin)
8. James McCarthy (Dublin) 9. Brian Fenton (Dublin)
10. Niall Scully (Dublin) 11. Con O'Callaghan (Dublin) 12. Thomas Galligan (Cavan)
13. Conor Sweeney (Tipperary) 14. Ciaran Kilkenny (Dublin) 15. Cillian O'Connor (Mayo)
Davy Byrne is out of position but he and Fitzsimons are more deserving of All Stars than Murchan & McDaid for me, and both had to be fitted in based on a good All Ireland final performances rather than just getting a few scores against the Cannon fodder. " Why Oisin Mullin? Very inconsistent imo" Mostly for his performance in the first half of the AI final to be honest which I was very impressed with, plus a few other purple patches in other games. With the way the Dubs brushed everyone aside his first half performance deserves an All Star on it's own I think. He would have had Mayo alot closer if their forwards didn't spurn many of the other chances he created in that first half too.
He would definitely win the "Player who made the Dubs look beatable for about 10 minutes of the year Award" for me if there was one..
Ahead of Ciaran Brady an honourable 2nd.
And no one in 3rd. A sad and empty spot on the podium to reflect the dominace of Dublin.
PatTheDandy (Cavan) - Posts: 356 - 21/01/2021 10:37:10
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Oisin Kiernan should definitely have got a nomination. Performed in all the games Gerry Smith had a good Ulster championship but struggled v Dublin and caught in possession a few times.
FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2791 - 21/01/2021 11:15:25
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Cavan have got 12 Ulster GAA All Stars and Thomas Galligan player of the year.
Breffnisbest (Cavan) - Posts: 472 - 22/01/2021 10:33:05
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Replying To PatTheDandy: " Replying To thegadfly: "[quote=PatTheDandy: "Thomas Galligan is more deserving of an All Star than any other Cavan player and has to get one or no one will want one next year. The fact that David Clifford & Shane Walsh got nominated is the only worry there as there was no logic used in picking either of those two for what they did in the c'ship this year (or not).
Raymond then is the standout in his position and should also get one, and Faulkner the best player on the team and there are possibly less standout backs than forwards with their head up for All Stars so we might get a Third.
No one disgraced themselves against the Dubs or went backwards in the race for an award I don't think. Cavan Management was probably at fault for the underuse of Tomas Galligan as much as he was quitened by the Dubs. He should have been brought out more or it kicked in more. The exception to that Dubs rule then was probably Ciaran Brady & Martin Reilly who pushed themeselves into nomination contention with good performances against the Dubs, but the awards will be handed out for the biggest contributors to the Ulster success. I see Martin Reilly is in Donaghy's team but I think if we are only getting 3 at most then his Ulster performances don't put him in the running. I'd have Ciaran Brady as the unlucky loser and this would be my All Start Team assuming you have to pick players in the category they were nominated in:
1. Raymond Galligan (Cavan)
2. Oisin Mullin (Mayo) 3. Mick Fitzsimons (Dublin) 4. Padraig Faulkner (Cavan)
5. Davy Byrne (Dublin) 6. John Small (Dublin) 7. Paddy Durkan (Dublin)
8. James McCarthy (Dublin) 9. Brian Fenton (Dublin)
10. Niall Scully (Dublin) 11. Con O'Callaghan (Dublin) 12. Thomas Galligan (Cavan)
13. Conor Sweeney (Tipperary) 14. Ciaran Kilkenny (Dublin) 15. Cillian O'Connor (Mayo)
Davy Byrne is out of position but he and Fitzsimons are more deserving of All Stars than Murchan & McDaid for me, and both had to be fitted in based on a good All Ireland final performances rather than just getting a few scores against the Cannon fodder. " Why Oisin Mullin? Very inconsistent imo" Mostly for his performance in the first half of the AI final to be honest which I was very impressed with, plus a few other purple patches in other games. With the way the Dubs brushed everyone aside his first half performance deserves an All Star on it's own I think. He would have had Mayo alot closer if their forwards didn't spurn many of the other chances he created in that first half too.
He would definitely win the "Player who made the Dubs look beatable for about 10 minutes of the year Award" for me if there was one..
Ahead of Ciaran Brady an honourable 2nd.
And no one in 3rd. A sad and empty spot on the podium to reflect the dominace of Dublin."]Good post. I just thought him a bit too inconsistent. Your prob right though.
thegadfly (Cavan) - Posts: 290 - 22/01/2021 18:08:36
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Replying To FoolsGold: "Oisin Kiernan should definitely have got a nomination. Performed in all the games Gerry Smith had a good Ulster championship but struggled v Dublin and caught in possession a few times." I watched most of the Ulster championship games back in full and you're right. Gerry Smith was absolutely outstanding. He possibly hasn't received enough recognition for his performances imo.
thegadfly (Cavan) - Posts: 290 - 22/01/2021 18:14:08
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