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Another big loss for cavan losing Niall Murray for season was hoping he would of being one of our main players and leaders here's wishing him all the best and a speedy recovery

IanMccullagh (Cavan) - Posts: 7 - 05/02/2020 23:35:39    2265563

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Good luck to Niall Murray in his recovery, super lad and an emerging leader for Cavan. Another tough break for the county setup.

MadgeKing (Cavan) - Posts: 493 - 05/02/2020 23:46:38    2265564

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disastrous news on Niall murray being out for the season.

Thats clarke, mcveety, rehill, moynagh, mackey and murray gone from last year. 6 key players.
Feel sorry for Mickey G, survival in div 2 probably the most we can hope for this year

Pullhard1985 (USA) - Posts: 68 - 06/02/2020 08:50:33    2265584

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One can only wish Niall the best of luck with his recovery, hopefully, we will see him wear the blue jersey in 2021.

kildare blue (Cavan) - Posts: 578 - 06/02/2020 09:56:35    2265601

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Replying To fredflint:  "Lets not get carried away with one win, We will eat up Laois (who are top of the table) yet we wouldn't beat Leitrim who currently sit bottom of Div 3. Well thats clear as mud."
Well as I said the team in the first half wouldn't beat Leitrim , the team that finished would beat Laois , What's so surprising at what I said ? Did u not see the the major difference when them two quality players made when they were introduced in the second half. Let's not forget Laois is no world beaters

goonie (Cavan) - Posts: 308 - 06/02/2020 22:16:19    2265808

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Replying To Breffni24:  "To call teams from st pats unsuccessful is absolutely stupid.St Pats is and has been the most successful School team in Cavan by a long shot the last 10 years. This years Rannafast team has been very successful in which they reached a brock final last year in which they were narrowly beaten, they won a cor na nog title and also got to a dalton final. The players are competing at a high, competitive level of ulster schools A, much more competitive than any other secondary schools in Cavan showing that there players are obviously of a high standard. Also with research the majority of players from the st pats Rannafast team on the Cavan minor team play division one club football with their clubs such as southern gaels, drumlomane gaels, lough uachtar gaels and killygarry which also indicates that these player have great ability. With research you will find that most successful minor teams from other county's over the past few years players have come from schools playing at ulster schools A competitions, for example the majority of Monaghan minors last year and the year before who won the ulster championship play with st macartens and st patricians carrick both colleges playing at ulster A level with obviously the odd player from smaller less recognised schools there too. similar to the situation in what cavan and most other counties have.
Secondly, st pats macrory starting team consisted of 10 of last years minors which shows that all these players are 17 year of age going on 18 playing in an under 19 competition which is a total disadvantage as most northern teams consist of players who are 18 going on 19 years old. This st pats team at the same age group won a Rannafast cup however 11 player of the starting team who won that competition are no longer in the school as they skipped transition year, so to expect st pats to compete and win a macrory cup would be very difficult.
Maybe when the time comes that schools such as Virginia, coothill and balliboro are playing at the level that st pats are then more players from these schools will represent cavan minors. It only makes sense that there are more st pats lads than any other school on the minors as they have proven their quality.For example If you look at England soccer team selecting their squad all the players will come from the premiership as they are the best players, playing at the highest standard. So I think it's time to stop being jealous and criticising st pats because the work and effort they put in is outstanding and the players and management deserve credit. Correct me if I'm I wrong but the minor manager and selectors are from Virginia therefore they would have no biased towards st pats and I'm sure they are picking the squad not st pats so let them do their job."
First off to try and compare St Pats to other Cavan schools is ridiculous as they have over twice as many boys to pick from as any other school in the county.Why not compare them to their Ulster compatriots like St Pats Maghera,St Colmans etc.?
This years Rannafast team were beaten at the quarter final stage, is this success? they may have won a Corn na og but they haven't kicked on from there. As for your assertion that the majority of players are playing in Division 1,firstly they are playing with strong amalagations so should be in Division 1 and secondly Killygarry who had 6 players on the Rannafast panel and 4 players currently on the County U17's and who played in the Div 1 final last year have opted to play in Division 2 this year,you may have confidence in their ability but it's obvious that their mentors and coaches don't. As you say there'll be players with great ability playing Div 1 football this year, but they won't get in an asses roar of the county set up, all because they don't play with St Pats.
You state that "most successful minor teams from other county's over the past few years players have come from schools playing at ulster schools A competitions" well our county teams have been full of these players over the last 50 years but it hasn't brought us much success, two Ulster titles,it's time to take the blinkers off.
This excuse of St Pats every year that the MacRory is an U19 competition and they are at a disadvantage is just that, a lame excuse,it hasn't stopped Bailieborough Community School or Virginia College from qualifying for their respective finals at the U19 age today nor did it stop St Mogues from winning the Ward Cup last year at U19.
As for the England comparision of course all the top players are playing in the premiership as there's a transfer system in operation, if this system was in place for the minor championship it could be very interesting to see the players who the top teams would go for, unlikely to be all St Pats players.As for the minor management it is questionable if they have complete autonomy over the selection process.

aceofspades (Cavan) - Posts: 257 - 07/02/2020 18:34:19    2266008

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Replying To aceofspades:  "First off to try and compare St Pats to other Cavan schools is ridiculous as they have over twice as many boys to pick from as any other school in the county.Why not compare them to their Ulster compatriots like St Pats Maghera,St Colmans etc.?
This years Rannafast team were beaten at the quarter final stage, is this success? they may have won a Corn na og but they haven't kicked on from there. As for your assertion that the majority of players are playing in Division 1,firstly they are playing with strong amalagations so should be in Division 1 and secondly Killygarry who had 6 players on the Rannafast panel and 4 players currently on the County U17's and who played in the Div 1 final last year have opted to play in Division 2 this year,you may have confidence in their ability but it's obvious that their mentors and coaches don't. As you say there'll be players with great ability playing Div 1 football this year, but they won't get in an asses roar of the county set up, all because they don't play with St Pats.
You state that "most successful minor teams from other county's over the past few years players have come from schools playing at ulster schools A competitions" well our county teams have been full of these players over the last 50 years but it hasn't brought us much success, two Ulster titles,it's time to take the blinkers off.
This excuse of St Pats every year that the MacRory is an U19 competition and they are at a disadvantage is just that, a lame excuse,it hasn't stopped Bailieborough Community School or Virginia College from qualifying for their respective finals at the U19 age today nor did it stop St Mogues from winning the Ward Cup last year at U19.
As for the England comparision of course all the top players are playing in the premiership as there's a transfer system in operation, if this system was in place for the minor championship it could be very interesting to see the players who the top teams would go for, unlikely to be all St Pats players.As for the minor management it is questionable if they have complete autonomy over the selection process."
"First off to try and compare St Pats to other Cavan schools is ridiculous as they have over twice as many boys to pick from as any other school in the county."
Then this would indicate that the probability of a st pats player on the county is obviously higher than a player from any other school, therefore this is the reason why there are more??
And to compare Virginia and bailieborough success to st pats success is even more ridiculous, it's like comparing Dublin winning the all Ireland with Leitrim gaining promotion out of division 4.
To what I've been informed st pats won the Cavan institute blitz this year beating every other school in Cavan comfortably with only 3 or 4 of their starting team playing the rest were players who weren't given game time throughout the macrory campaign.
Unfortunately Cavan football isn't up there with the Tyrones and Donegals so I don't think st pats players are the reason Cavan haven't had success throughout the years, it's just that these other county's are far ahead of us. And I certainly don't think that the players the minor management have left off the squad this year are going to be the difference of winning an ulster title or not. Maybe I'm wrong but is there any players in the county who should be on the minor team?

Breffni24 (Cavan) - Posts: 2 - 08/02/2020 09:56:31    2266062

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Replying To Breffni24:  "
Replying To aceofspades:  "First off to try and compare St Pats to other Cavan schools is ridiculous as they have over twice as many boys to pick from as any other school in the county.Why not compare them to their Ulster compatriots like St Pats Maghera,St Colmans etc.?
This years Rannafast team were beaten at the quarter final stage, is this success? they may have won a Corn na og but they haven't kicked on from there. As for your assertion that the majority of players are playing in Division 1,firstly they are playing with strong amalagations so should be in Division 1 and secondly Killygarry who had 6 players on the Rannafast panel and 4 players currently on the County U17's and who played in the Div 1 final last year have opted to play in Division 2 this year,you may have confidence in their ability but it's obvious that their mentors and coaches don't. As you say there'll be players with great ability playing Div 1 football this year, but they won't get in an asses roar of the county set up, all because they don't play with St Pats.
You state that "most successful minor teams from other county's over the past few years players have come from schools playing at ulster schools A competitions" well our county teams have been full of these players over the last 50 years but it hasn't brought us much success, two Ulster titles,it's time to take the blinkers off.
This excuse of St Pats every year that the MacRory is an U19 competition and they are at a disadvantage is just that, a lame excuse,it hasn't stopped Bailieborough Community School or Virginia College from qualifying for their respective finals at the U19 age today nor did it stop St Mogues from winning the Ward Cup last year at U19.
As for the England comparision of course all the top players are playing in the premiership as there's a transfer system in operation, if this system was in place for the minor championship it could be very interesting to see the players who the top teams would go for, unlikely to be all St Pats players.As for the minor management it is questionable if they have complete autonomy over the selection process."
"First off to try and compare St Pats to other Cavan schools is ridiculous as they have over twice as many boys to pick from as any other school in the county."
Then this would indicate that the probability of a st pats player on the county is obviously higher than a player from any other school, therefore this is the reason why there are more??
And to compare Virginia and bailieborough success to st pats success is even more ridiculous, it's like comparing Dublin winning the all Ireland with Leitrim gaining promotion out of division 4.
To what I've been informed st pats won the Cavan institute blitz this year beating every other school in Cavan comfortably with only 3 or 4 of their starting team playing the rest were players who weren't given game time throughout the macrory campaign.
Unfortunately Cavan football isn't up there with the Tyrones and Donegals so I don't think st pats players are the reason Cavan haven't had success throughout the years, it's just that these other county's are far ahead of us. And I certainly don't think that the players the minor management have left off the squad this year are going to be the difference of winning an ulster title or not. Maybe I'm wrong but is there any players in the county who should be on the minor team?"
I doubt that. Virginia have a very strong senior side with players like McCabe and McEvoy who are talented athletes that represented Ireland at international soccer level.

BreffniGuide (Cavan) - Posts: 474 - 08/02/2020 23:45:26    2266228

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No trip to Laois today for us , might suit Cavan, the extra week to get players back from the injury . Anyone know how far the likes of Madden , McLoughlin or Conor Smith is from returning.

goonie (Cavan) - Posts: 308 - 09/02/2020 11:25:28    2266291

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Replying To goonie:  "No trip to Laois today for us , might suit Cavan, the extra week to get players back from the injury . Anyone know how far the likes of Madden , McLoughlin or Conor Smith is from returning."
All Mickey had said was that they might be back for the game after the break which was two weeks today. We'll now have to play 5 games in six weeks.

BreffniGuide (Cavan) - Posts: 474 - 09/02/2020 16:36:41    2266420

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Replying To BreffniGuide:  "All Mickey had said was that they might be back for the game after the break which was two weeks today. We'll now have to play 5 games in six weeks."
We definitely could do with no more injury's .

goonie (Cavan) - Posts: 308 - 09/02/2020 18:38:48    2266491

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Replying To goonie:  "We definitely could do with no more injury's ."
The match is on next Sunday the 16th at 1pm

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 11/02/2020 23:40:55    2267195

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Replying To The Quiet Man:  "The match is on next Sunday the 16th at 1pm"
That time as been changed to 1400hrs Sunday.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 12/02/2020 12:45:30    2267276

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I didn't travel to Portlaoise today. listened on Radio. Sounded like a great performance from the lads. Anyone there to report on their views of the game. according to Northern Sound, Killian Gunner , Martin Reilly, Pierson were great.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5520 - 16/02/2020 15:46:12    2267956

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Well done Mickey Graham and his players, that's a serious result on the road in brutal conditions against a team with their tails up.

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1485 - 16/02/2020 15:54:46    2267958

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Anyone at the game today, who impressed?

CavanAgain (Cavan) - Posts: 196 - 16/02/2020 16:53:09    2267972

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Replying To CavanAgain:  "Anyone at the game today, who impressed?"
The holla , Pierson, Martin Reilly, , too be honest you couldn't fault any of the players effort , G.McKiernan still isn't firing on all cylinders hopefully he can find his form again because we will need his fire power, young Murray again had a great impact , I taught the ref was very poor . This morning we were bottom of the table this evening we are joint top , Div 2 is going to be close , 8 points and we should be safe

goonie (Cavan) - Posts: 308 - 16/02/2020 17:40:02    2267985

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Replying To CavanAgain:  "Anyone at the game today, who impressed?"
Very good win. Had a feeling this Laois team were being bigged up more than they were fit for. The lads managed the game very well in the conditions and reduced Laois to pot shots for goals at the end. Marty Reilly was unreal, Gunner played one of his best games for Cavan, amount of ball he won and turned over in the tackle was unreal. Conroy, Kiernan, Holla, Faulkner, Pierson all good too. Murray full of running when he came on. Good team performance, not many who played poor today. Hopefully that's the start of a good run. Nice to see goals too, we don't often score 3

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2450 - 16/02/2020 17:40:35    2267986

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Replying To goonie:  "The holla , Pierson, Martin Reilly, , too be honest you couldn't fault any of the players effort , G.McKiernan still isn't firing on all cylinders hopefully he can find his form again because we will need his fire power, young Murray again had a great impact , I taught the ref was very poor . This morning we were bottom of the table this evening we are joint top , Div 2 is going to be close , 8 points and we should be safe"
You could add Faulkner, Gerry Smith and Oisin Kiernan too. Defensively we were good, Pierson very good up front but needed more help at times trying to push up on the Laois defence in the first half. Great to see Madden coming on, hopefully Conor Smith will be back soon too to add to our attack, Midfield still a problem

Cavan_Ned (Cavan) - Posts: 93 - 16/02/2020 18:33:06    2268001

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How did they line out today? Delighted for the lads. Hats off.

thegadfly (Cavan) - Posts: 290 - 16/02/2020 19:02:10    2268008

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