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Replying To The Quiet Man:  "cavanblueman your reply epitomises the ignorance of so many when it comes to why.
Charlie Clarke wanted to play for Cavan there was no question about that but because of his career certain elements within the training set up made it impossible for him for example coming in at 6 am for a training session he had to milk his cattle things like this could have been excluded from his itinerary for training. Cavan needed this lad we lost him. He was all ready paying from his own pocket people to cover for him while he went to play matches. Could the county Board have helped here I am sure they could have for sure. Anyway he is too old now but I am sure we have players now in the same boat I believe Barry Reilly is a Dairy Farmer I may be wrong??"
Yes you are right, Barry reilly is a dairy farmer.

blueman1903 (Cavan) - Posts: 726 - 28/06/2018 18:55:01    2116502

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Replying To blueman1903:  "Yes you are right, Barry reilly is a dairy farmer."
The CHC ruled that "the infraction was not proven",

I suppose as a Cavan supporter I should be elated that the two got their red cards over turned. Sadly they the CHC are making a mockery of the rules and regulations. No case to answer or not enough evidence cop out. Is it no wonder our referees are as bad as they are?? is it they know they are wasting their time applying the rules of the game.
Anyway it's done and dusted but it will sadly make no difference to the result.

mowbar (Cavan) - Posts: 452 - 28/06/2018 23:11:48    2116556

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Great news for you with the red cards - what a shot in the arm for ye - Advantage Cavan. STOP been so negative on her, support your team, beat Tyrone, get to the Super 8's and see what happens

OrielPower (Monaghan) - Posts: 101 - 29/06/2018 07:50:43    2116581

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Replying To mowbar:  "The CHC ruled that "the infraction was not proven",

I suppose as a Cavan supporter I should be elated that the two got their red cards over turned. Sadly they the CHC are making a mockery of the rules and regulations. No case to answer or not enough evidence cop out. Is it no wonder our referees are as bad as they are?? is it they know they are wasting their time applying the rules of the game.
Anyway it's done and dusted but it will sadly make no difference to the result."
Listen Mowbar.

The worst either did was pull/push/jostle - those are not red card offences. If you think they are then I am glad you are not a referree as there wouldnt be a player left on the field in any match you went to.

The only players I saw punching were Down players and I was sitting at the front of the stand right beside the row. If you dont believe me watch it on the Sunday game again.

What it does make a mockery of is Tomas o Se and Des Cahill and the garbage they were talking.

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1303 - 29/06/2018 08:57:45    2116590

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Good news on the red cards. Having Mcvitty available is a huge plus. I think moynagh missing would've been a blessing in disguise but he's as good as what's there at the same time.

No harm to see Cormac Reilly's decisions overturned either.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 3943 - 29/06/2018 09:12:56    2116594

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The dismissals last Saturday had a Cormac Reilly factor, his performances in games where Cavan were playing is there for all to see. I date it back to the Roscommon Under 21 All Ireland Semi Final played in Longford a number of years ago.

kildare blue (Cavan) - Posts: 563 - 29/06/2018 09:35:33    2116600

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Replying To kildare blue:  "The dismissals last Saturday had a Cormac Reilly factor, his performances in games where Cavan were playing is there for all to see. I date it back to the Roscommon Under 21 All Ireland Semi Final played in Longford a number of years ago."
In fairness to Cormac Reilly, the 3 big calls (2 blacks and a red) he got right. He could've bottled it and let those guys off and Cavan would have lost. He did us no harm in that game.

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1303 - 29/06/2018 10:22:38    2116614

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Replying To fredflint:  "
Replying To mowbar:  "The CHC ruled that "the infraction was not proven",

I suppose as a Cavan supporter I should be elated that the two got their red cards over turned. Sadly they the CHC are making a mockery of the rules and regulations. No case to answer or not enough evidence cop out. Is it no wonder our referees are as bad as they are?? is it they know they are wasting their time applying the rules of the game.
Anyway it's done and dusted but it will sadly make no difference to the result."
Listen Mowbar.

The worst either did was pull/push/jostle - those are not red card offences. If you think they are then I am glad you are not a referree as there wouldnt be a player left on the field in any match you went to.

The only players I saw punching were Down players and I was sitting at the front of the stand right beside the row. If you dont believe me watch it on the Sunday game again.

What it does make a mockery of is Tomas o Se and Des Cahill and the garbage they were talking."
I was not sitting on the front row but a bit back to the right. Thankfully we have our own opinions I have my take on what I saw and you have your take we have to agree to disagree.
What I saw certainly was not hang bad stuff/pulling and shoving and the sledging from the third player also.
Look lets move on they are able to play maybe they might perform better now that they can do what they like and get away with it.
I will be there Saturday afternoon and again we will more than likely have different opinions on what we see.
Enjoy.

mowbar (Cavan) - Posts: 452 - 29/06/2018 10:56:26    2116629

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Really hoping for a Cavan win this weekend - Getting your two players back is a big boost!

I have to agree with mowbar though, the fact that those red cards were rescinded is a bit of a joke. If Ryan Johnston's was a red card, then Moynagh and McVeety's definitely were! Reilly's application of the rules had me pulling my hair out on Saturday but the most deserved card of the day was McKernan's. He has 3 black cards in his last 4 inter-county games - he must be papering his bedroom with them at this stage!

early_ball_in (Down) - Posts: 10 - 29/06/2018 11:38:11    2116642

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Have we learned nothing about the GAA this week lads? A joke of an organisation, setting up a double header in Croke Park without Kildare's agreement, telling them they had to play in Croke Park because the rules said so, and then backing down because the rules didn't actually say so. Then you have the Kildare Hurlers winning the Christy Ring Cup last week and now having to play a relegation back so to see if they drop down to the McDonagh Cup. And they fixed the hurling match up in Armagh on the same day the footballers are playing.

Its no coincidence that the cards were rescinded at the same time Cavan agreed to go to Croke Park, dont kid yourself if you think otherwise. The cards were rescinded on a 'technicality', the highlights of the melee were on TV for all to see, to say there were no punches thrown is nonsense. What about the Ulster u21 match a few weeks back, again, a melee for all to see, but remind how many players were charged and how many got off on technicalities!

cavanblueman (Cavan) - Posts: 441 - 29/06/2018 13:40:39    2116678

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Best of luck to the blues this weekend. I was in Navan a couple of weeks ago when Tyrone were there for the taking and we ballsed it up, no surprise there. I hope Cavan push up on the Tyrone kick out, couldn't understand why we didn't as Cavanagh was clearly injured. Tyrone are in a better place now but if Cavan have a go at them, I think they'll take them. Sit back and defend and your certain to get beat.

moylagh (Meath) - Posts: 456 - 29/06/2018 14:06:23    2116686

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Replying To cavanblueman:  "Have we learned nothing about the GAA this week lads? A joke of an organisation, setting up a double header in Croke Park without Kildare's agreement, telling them they had to play in Croke Park because the rules said so, and then backing down because the rules didn't actually say so. Then you have the Kildare Hurlers winning the Christy Ring Cup last week and now having to play a relegation back so to see if they drop down to the McDonagh Cup. And they fixed the hurling match up in Armagh on the same day the footballers are playing.

Its no coincidence that the cards were rescinded at the same time Cavan agreed to go to Croke Park, dont kid yourself if you think otherwise. The cards were rescinded on a 'technicality', the highlights of the melee were on TV for all to see, to say there were no punches thrown is nonsense. What about the Ulster u21 match a few weeks back, again, a melee for all to see, but remind how many players were charged and how many got off on technicalities!"
You have hit the nail on the head caavanblueman.

mowbar (Cavan) - Posts: 452 - 29/06/2018 14:16:08    2116691

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Replying To moylagh:  "Best of luck to the blues this weekend. I was in Navan a couple of weeks ago when Tyrone were there for the taking and we ballsed it up, no surprise there. I hope Cavan push up on the Tyrone kick out, couldn't understand why we didn't as Cavanagh was clearly injured. Tyrone are in a better place now but if Cavan have a go at them, I think they'll take them. Sit back and defend and your certain to get beat."
As much as I would love to see it happen sadly I cannot see it happening but like most Cavan supporters we live in hope. I will be there either way and nice getting a wee bit of support from a Meath supporter moylagh.

mowbar (Cavan) - Posts: 452 - 29/06/2018 14:53:42    2116704

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Replying To cavanblueman:  "Have we learned nothing about the GAA this week lads? A joke of an organisation, setting up a double header in Croke Park without Kildare's agreement, telling them they had to play in Croke Park because the rules said so, and then backing down because the rules didn't actually say so. Then you have the Kildare Hurlers winning the Christy Ring Cup last week and now having to play a relegation back so to see if they drop down to the McDonagh Cup. And they fixed the hurling match up in Armagh on the same day the footballers are playing.

Its no coincidence that the cards were rescinded at the same time Cavan agreed to go to Croke Park, dont kid yourself if you think otherwise. The cards were rescinded on a 'technicality', the highlights of the melee were on TV for all to see, to say there were no punches thrown is nonsense. What about the Ulster u21 match a few weeks back, again, a melee for all to see, but remind how many players were charged and how many got off on technicalities!"
There were no punches thrown by a Cavan player and sledging and shoulder barging aren't red card offences

doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 29/06/2018 15:07:35    2116709

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Replying To early_ball_in:  "Really hoping for a Cavan win this weekend - Getting your two players back is a big boost!

I have to agree with mowbar though, the fact that those red cards were rescinded is a bit of a joke. If Ryan Johnston's was a red card, then Moynagh and McVeety's definitely were! Reilly's application of the rules had me pulling my hair out on Saturday but the most deserved card of the day was McKernan's. He has 3 black cards in his last 4 inter-county games - he must be papering his bedroom with them at this stage!"
For clarification, what did these guys do that deserved the red cards....I seen McVeety pull a lad away....IMO thats not a red card....I didnt see what else he done (if anything)....as for Moynagh, I didnt see what he done at all......i was on the far side of the terrace, and I seen one Down player throwing 3 or 4 rabbit punches and loads of pushing and shoving, but no punches

Cavan-Hero (Cavan) - Posts: 27 - 29/06/2018 15:55:10    2116727

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Replying To Cavan-Hero:  "
Replying To early_ball_in:  "Really hoping for a Cavan win this weekend - Getting your two players back is a big boost!

I have to agree with mowbar though, the fact that those red cards were rescinded is a bit of a joke. If Ryan Johnston's was a red card, then Moynagh and McVeety's definitely were! Reilly's application of the rules had me pulling my hair out on Saturday but the most deserved card of the day was McKernan's. He has 3 black cards in his last 4 inter-county games - he must be papering his bedroom with them at this stage!"
For clarification, what did these guys do that deserved the red cards....I seen McVeety pull a lad away....IMO thats not a red card....I didnt see what else he done (if anything)....as for Moynagh, I didnt see what he done at all......i was on the far side of the terrace, and I seen one Down player throwing 3 or 4 rabbit punches and loads of pushing and shoving, but no punches"
Best let it go now anyone that was close enough saw what went on and as usual they only see what they want to see.
What happened was a disgrace and the person that was sledging started it all off.

mowbar (Cavan) - Posts: 452 - 29/06/2018 16:04:47    2116729

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Replying To moylagh:  "Best of luck to the blues this weekend. I was in Navan a couple of weeks ago when Tyrone were there for the taking and we ballsed it up, no surprise there. I hope Cavan push up on the Tyrone kick out, couldn't understand why we didn't as Cavanagh was clearly injured. Tyrone are in a better place now but if Cavan have a go at them, I think they'll take them. Sit back and defend and your certain to get beat."
Well said Moylagh. A good balance needed. We're due a big performance and hopefully we get it Saturday evening. Does anyone know what is the status on Killian Clarke?

Joebe (Cavan) - Posts: 71 - 29/06/2018 16:18:45    2116732

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Replying To mowbar:  "
Replying To Cavan-Hero:  "[quote=early_ball_in:  "Really hoping for a Cavan win this weekend - Getting your two players back is a big boost!

I have to agree with mowbar though, the fact that those red cards were rescinded is a bit of a joke. If Ryan Johnston's was a red card, then Moynagh and McVeety's definitely were! Reilly's application of the rules had me pulling my hair out on Saturday but the most deserved card of the day was McKernan's. He has 3 black cards in his last 4 inter-county games - he must be papering his bedroom with them at this stage!"
For clarification, what did these guys do that deserved the red cards....I seen McVeety pull a lad away....IMO thats not a red card....I didnt see what else he done (if anything)....as for Moynagh, I didnt see what he done at all......i was on the far side of the terrace, and I seen one Down player throwing 3 or 4 rabbit punches and loads of pushing and shoving, but no punches"
Best let it go now anyone that was close enough saw what went on and as usual they only see what they want to see.
What happened was a disgrace and the person that was sledging started it all off."]Sledging is a black card. Not a red.

doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 29/06/2018 17:21:04    2116742

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Replying To Joebe:  "Well said Moylagh. A good balance needed. We're due a big performance and hopefully we get it Saturday evening. Does anyone know what is the status on Killian Clarke?"
Haven't heard anything about Killian joebe hopefully he will be fit, we could do with him, and like you I hope we attack this game, best of luck lads.

blueman1903 (Cavan) - Posts: 726 - 29/06/2018 18:16:41    2116749

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Replying To doratheexplorer:  "
Replying To mowbar:  "[quote=Cavan-Hero:  "[quote=early_ball_in:  "Really hoping for a Cavan win this weekend - Getting your two players back is a big boost!

I have to agree with mowbar though, the fact that those red cards were rescinded is a bit of a joke. If Ryan Johnston's was a red card, then Moynagh and McVeety's definitely were! Reilly's application of the rules had me pulling my hair out on Saturday but the most deserved card of the day was McKernan's. He has 3 black cards in his last 4 inter-county games - he must be papering his bedroom with them at this stage!"
For clarification, what did these guys do that deserved the red cards....I seen McVeety pull a lad away....IMO thats not a red card....I didnt see what else he done (if anything)....as for Moynagh, I didnt see what he done at all......i was on the far side of the terrace, and I seen one Down player throwing 3 or 4 rabbit punches and loads of pushing and shoving, but no punches"
Best let it go now anyone that was close enough saw what went on and as usual they only see what they want to see.
What happened was a disgrace and the person that was sledging started it all off."]Sledging is a black card. Not a red."]So doratheexplorer now you admit that sledging is an offense and shoulder charging is an offense so twice he should have received a black card. The incident with one of the red card issues, if the referee was making out his report correctly the offender would have got a lot more than a match ban had it been worded correctly. Maybe it was only those that were dealing with it know what was in the referees report. If the rumor's that are going around Cavan since Tuesday afternoon are true all I can say is that the game has gone to a rotten level.

mowbar (Cavan) - Posts: 452 - 29/06/2018 18:33:36    2116752

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