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Replying To doratheexplorer:  "What about your manager? See you in qualifiers."
Somehow I don't believe you want to see us in the qualifiers !

Shelbourne (Monaghan) - Posts: 567 - 03/06/2018 23:45:23    2107115

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I wonder what sort of a crowd will there be in Aughrim? Could be a record low I anticipate.

Seems like McVeety is back playing again which is good. After that, things are quiet inside it seems. In some ways, we are stuck between a rock and a hard place with this draw but a win of any sort will do. I would live to see us play with some more speed. I didn't see that against Donegal and we seemed to move the ball quicker in the league and look where that got us. The whole thing feels a bit deflated at the moment and the first round of the qualifiers is an all too familiar place for us in recent years.

If we look at some of the upsets already this year, we need to take confidence in them and hope that we can put it up to others later on if we get that far. That said, this is a banana skin and could produce another upset!

Reformation (Cavan) - Posts: 356 - 04/06/2018 14:32:04    2107298

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Replying To Shelbourne:  "Somehow I don't believe you want to see us in the qualifiers !"
Bring it on. Put us out of our misery and can concentrate on club football or give us a shot in the arm.

doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 05/06/2018 12:41:25    2107649

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Replying To doratheexplorer:  "Bring it on. Put us out of our misery and can concentrate on club football or give us a shot in the arm."
When you put it like that I suppose you can't lose really.

Anyway if we do meet in the qualifiers, hopefully it's later rather than sooner and we can get a day out in Croker.

Keep the faith Breffni boys............I know we will !

Shelbourne (Monaghan) - Posts: 567 - 05/06/2018 18:01:47    2107798

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Replying To Breffni81:  "Incorrect tom, Donal was not manager for the defeat in wicklow, tommy carr was"
Breffni 81

Tomsmith here.
As I said to the great Mrs T Breffni 81 is nearly always right, but I felt is was Donall who was in charge.
If is was Tomn Carr who was in charge when did Donal resign and what game ws it after

tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 3257 - 05/06/2018 21:09:41    2107852

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Replying To tomsmith:  "Breffni 81

Tomsmith here.
As I said to the great Mrs T Breffni 81 is nearly always right, but I felt is was Donall who was in charge.
If is was Tomn Carr who was in charge when did Donal resign and what game ws it after"
Tom - some time after Kildare beat us in the 2008 qualifiers in Newbridge with an injury time goal. Just another entry in our long list of disasters unfortunately. Here's hoping there is no repeat of Aughrim 2009 next weekend.

TheFean (Cavan) - Posts: 16 - 05/06/2018 22:24:20    2107879

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McVeety fully fit again.

Doesn't seem to be much interest in this game.

As a side note I see a terrific article in last weeks Celt which echoed the sentiments of many concerned Cavan supporters about the mis-handling of our youth teams over the last six years. The author alluded to the existential danger that we are on the verge of blowing a once in a generational opportunity. Incredibly 73 players played on the U21 teams from 2010 to 2014, and today, just 10 are on the panel. That's a downright disgrace.

Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 370 - 06/06/2018 12:53:05    2108038

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Replying To tomsmith:  "Breffni 81

Tomsmith here.
As I said to the great Mrs T Breffni 81 is nearly always right, but I felt is was Donall who was in charge.
If is was Tomn Carr who was in charge when did Donal resign and what game ws it after"
Tom, that Saturday evening in Newbridge we came from a long way behind at the end of the first half to be 2 clear entering injury time. Kildare carried the ball all the way up the field and we did not have the know know to commit the necessary foul. in hindsight Donal might have stayed on, certainly there was no queue forming to show him the door.

kildare blue (Cavan) - Posts: 563 - 07/06/2018 14:09:14    2108386

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Cavan team boycotting the celt. What a joke. If I were them if be more worried about why the cavan public are boycotting watching them. Snowflakes.

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1303 - 07/06/2018 14:55:25    2108403

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Replying To fredflint:  "Cavan team boycotting the celt. What a joke. If I were them if be more worried about why the cavan public are boycotting watching them. Snowflakes."
Agree 100%. Total joke.

Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 07/06/2018 16:27:03    2108438

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I'm be siding with The Celt on that one. I haven't read the article (being an exile), but I have seen Paul Fitzpatrick, The Celt's sports editor, defend the article on Twitter. According to him the player in question's solicitor is the one who brought up and made a big deal out of his client's football. The Celt simply reported on that fact.

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balls.ie name the player: link

TheBlackDeath (Cavan) - Posts: 41 - 07/06/2018 17:09:39    2108448

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Replying To TheBlackDeath:  "I'm be siding with The Celt on that one. I haven't read the article (being an exile), but I have seen Paul Fitzpatrick, The Celt's sports editor, defend the article on Twitter. According to him the player in question's solicitor is the one who brought up and made a big deal out of his client's football. The Celt simply reported on that fact.

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balls.ie name the player: link"
The Celt made the most of it

Open up the Court pages and there are 6 or 7 different sections.....and this one has the biggest headline. Obviously they cant not put it in the paper, but they definitely gave it more attention than it needed.

I would have been more impressed with the Celt, had they labelled the Donegal performance woeful, and went into detail on why, but they didnt......but thats a different argument

Cavan-Hero (Cavan) - Posts: 27 - 07/06/2018 17:38:46    2108459

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Expecting a routine win at the weekend.

kildare blue (Cavan) - Posts: 563 - 07/06/2018 18:42:08    2108478

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Yes agreed ,Anything other than a 10 points + win is unacceptable Saturday evening ,every division 1 team should expect to easily beat a team struggling badly in division 4.I think it will be an easy win with a fit McAveety and Martin Reilly starting.Having said that,I would hope to see a different lineout/formation from the Donegal game in terms of defence and midfield anyway.We need to go back to a reasonably defensive system,call it puke,call it black death but it is the only way we will have a chance of seeing any middling results against stronger teams later on, that's for sure.

celt2018 (Cavan) - Posts: 157 - 08/06/2018 11:38:06    2108635

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Replying To kildare blue:  "Tom, that Saturday evening in Newbridge we came from a long way behind at the end of the first half to be 2 clear entering injury time. Kildare carried the ball all the way up the field and we did not have the know know to commit the necessary foul. in hindsight Donal might have stayed on, certainly there was no queue forming to show him the door."
I was at this match I think we had a two point lead and the man that should have fouled the Kildare player was my good friend A. Forde sadly the rest is history. We spoke several times about it and he will tell you he should have fouled him for all Kildare might have got from the half way line was a point.

mowbar (Cavan) - Posts: 452 - 08/06/2018 11:41:35    2108638

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Team has been released for tomorrow's game.

McVeety down as starting in the full forward line, but assume he'll drop deeper and run at defenders. I'm not familiar with the McCormack lad from Ballyhaise named in midfield, is he a good ball-winner?

Starters:
1. James Farrelly
2. Killian Brady
3. Padraig Faulkner
4. Enda Flanagan
5. Ciaran Brady
6. Conor Moynagh
7. Martin Reilly
8. Sean McCormack
9. Killian Clarke
10. Bryan Magee
11. Gearoid McKiernan
12. Oisin Kiernan
13. Caoimhin O'Reilly
14. Dara McVeety
15. Sean Johnston

Subs:
Raymond Galligan
Cian Mackey
Conor Bradley
Adrian Cole
Niall Clerkin
Jack Wharton
Dan Wharton
Dónal Monahan
David Brady
Niall Murray
Paul Gilcreest

TheBlackDeath (Cavan) - Posts: 41 - 08/06/2018 16:06:00    2108729

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Hearing from a source within the camp that Cavan are going to revert to more defensive tactics for the rest of the championship. Including trialing the new more defensive system against Wicklow even if it would not be needed for the win.

Not saying this is the wrong thing to do but its a pity it took a hammering in the Ulster C'ship first round for management to learn that lesson given they had all year to prepare.

Just saw the team for Saturday there online. I'm assuming there will be loads of changes to it seeing as Galligan is listed in the subs which wouldn't make sense unless he's injured, not that Farrelly is not an able deputy.

But I would guess with Johnstone, McVeety and McCormack named in the 15 that they will all start somewhere, with McVeety likely to move out to the half forward line to make it more solid and hard working, and McCormack to slot in somewhere to add an additional big man around the 45 to hold the middle a bit better and maybe put in a few hits.

Martin Reilly back from the start will be a help too. Assume Mackey will play a big part whether he starts or not.

There are two standout things looking at the squad:

The number (or lack of) natural defenders/man markers in the squad that are up to inter county level right now. We have just 2 in Faulkner & Gunner.

The other being the amount of unproven & untested players at this inter county level on the bench. 5 lads on the bench with nothing more than a small amount of McKenna cup minutes. Terrible to be going in a championship game like that given that most teams need to use all 5 subs per game given the fitness levels of the modern game.

Hopefully will win convincingly and look improved and more anyway.!

PatTheDandy (Cavan) - Posts: 258 - 08/06/2018 16:27:02    2108735

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Replying To TheBlackDeath:  "Team has been released for tomorrow's game.

McVeety down as starting in the full forward line, but assume he'll drop deeper and run at defenders. I'm not familiar with the McCormack lad from Ballyhaise named in midfield, is he a good ball-winner?

Starters:
1. James Farrelly
2. Killian Brady
3. Padraig Faulkner
4. Enda Flanagan
5. Ciaran Brady
6. Conor Moynagh
7. Martin Reilly
8. Sean McCormack
9. Killian Clarke
10. Bryan Magee
11. Gearoid McKiernan
12. Oisin Kiernan
13. Caoimhin O'Reilly
14. Dara McVeety
15. Sean Johnston

Subs:
Raymond Galligan
Cian Mackey
Conor Bradley
Adrian Cole
Niall Clerkin
Jack Wharton
Dan Wharton
Dónal Monahan
David Brady
Niall Murray
Paul Gilcreest"
Who is Sean McCormack? Is he another debutant?

Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 370 - 08/06/2018 16:46:39    2108746

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Made his debut ten years ago.

doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 08/06/2018 18:41:30    2108775

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Replying To doratheexplorer:  "Made his debut ten years ago."
What? Never heard of him before. Where does he play? How often has he played for Cavan?

Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 370 - 08/06/2018 19:21:08    2108784

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