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Replying To Inaroundehouse: "Injury to McVitty is a setback as he has been playing very well. But there a panel of 30 players all itching to start and show what they can do. Donegal are no great shakes of late . Push up on them and don't allow them to build from the back is the key to beating them. We are well fit for them so let's got and give it a mighty shot. What a boost it would be for this young team to pull it off especially in Ballybofey. If everyone plays to their full potential and our more experienced lads make a telling contribution there no reason why we won't win." They're not the force they were, nonetheless they came to Breifne Park not so long ago and gave us a tremendous hammering. Our team has changed considerably since then, and we've swapped divisions in the league with them, so the momentum is with us. Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 04/05/2018 12:23:49 2096623 Link
They were unlucky to be relegated, played some good stuff. Momentum not really with Cavan as the league final was a defeat, and showed up weaknesses in defence. Also lost Cavan best player in McVeety for the Donegal game. FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2824 - 04/05/2018 17:29:01 2096700 Link
Replying To FoolsGold: "They were unlucky to be relegated, played some good stuff. Momentum not really with Cavan as the league final was a defeat, and showed up weaknesses in defence. Also lost Cavan best player in McVeety for the Donegal game." How do you make out they were unlucky to be relegated?? They lost 4 of their 7 games by more than 5 points The only team they beat was Kildare who were also relegated with them. They could only draw at home with a half a Mayo team . They finished with 3 points and fully deserved to be relegated. Your idea of being unlucky is different to mine Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 04/05/2018 21:35:36 2096735 Link
Replying To Inaroundehouse: "Injury to McVitty is a setback as he has been playing very well. But there a panel of 30 players all itching to start and show what they can do. Donegal are no great shakes of late . Push up on them and don't allow them to build from the back is the key to beating them. We are well fit for them so let's got and give it a mighty shot. What a boost it would be for this young team to pull it off especially in Ballybofey. If everyone plays to their full potential and our more experienced lads make a telling contribution there no reason why we won't win." We don't have 30 players or close to it capable of competing at this level yet. We've done very well in the league with the squad we had. The absentees didn't really effect our first 15 as much as all the shouts at the start of the year were suggesting but they definitely have thinned out the bench of experienced inter county players. The last thing we could afford going into championship was injuries. We've got them and will have to deal with them and trust in young inexperienced players. That's being hopeful. It would be great if they can rise to it but my gut feeling is that it's too early for them. Regarding the opposition, you're vastly down playing them. I don't particularly rate Bonner so there's a bit of hope but personnel wise they are superior to us. They have a solid core of 7/8 very experienced and talented inter county players. They have returning players and very talented young players in their squad. They are evolving and improving IMO. They are a couple of years ahead of us in development and easily have the potential to be a top 6 team. We should push up on them but that doesn't guarantee results. They cleaned us out in midfield last year in Breffni. They have better options here than us. Jason McGee has committed to U20s this year I think so that's something at least but they have ample replacements. They have some serious forwards in their rank too. So I'd be very wary of calling them no great shakes. In fact I'd fear if they get a run on us early it might not be pretty. Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 04/05/2018 23:12:48 2096753 Link
Replying To Inaroundehouse: "How do you make out they were unlucky to be relegated?? They lost 4 of their 7 games by more than 5 points The only team they beat was Kildare who were also relegated with them. They could only draw at home with a half a Mayo team . They finished with 3 points and fully deserved to be relegated. Your idea of being unlucky is different to mine" They played good stuff in the Dublin game in Croke Park. Dublin only pulled away in the end. Tyrone and Monghan beat them beat well, but they were missing a good few players;. They were the better team down in Kerry in first league game but discipline cost them Mayo still had a strong spine of a team against Donegal. Mayo needed a result too, so only drawing with Mayo is a silly statement. They have plenty of experience of big games. FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2824 - 05/05/2018 14:24:29 2096803 Link
Replying To Inaroundehouse: "How do you make out they were unlucky to be relegated?? They lost 4 of their 7 games by more than 5 points The only team they beat was Kildare who were also relegated with them. They could only draw at home with a half a Mayo team . They finished with 3 points and fully deserved to be relegated. Your idea of being unlucky is different to mine" So based on this you'll be expecting an easy Cavan win, yes? fatkeeper (Dublin) - Posts: 316 - 05/05/2018 22:39:54 2096862 Link
Replying To FoolsGold: "They played good stuff in the Dublin game in Croke Park. Dublin only pulled away in the end. Tyrone and Monghan beat them beat well, but they were missing a good few players;. They were the better team down in Kerry in first league game but discipline cost them Mayo still had a strong spine of a team against Donegal. Mayo needed a result too, so only drawing with Mayo is a silly statement. They have plenty of experience of big games." Led Mayo at home in a must win game, blew it and got relegated. That's like something we would do. Mark my words they are a pale shadow of the 2012/2014 side. We will put it right up to them . I don't even believe it would be a major shock to beat them. I'd rather be playing Donegal away than be travelling away to Newry, Armagh, Celtic Park, Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 06/05/2018 08:11:16 2096872 Link
Replying To Inaroundehouse: "Led Mayo at home in a must win game, blew it and got relegated. That's like something we would do. Mark my words they are a pale shadow of the 2012/2014 side. We will put it right up to them . I don't even believe it would be a major shock to beat them. I'd rather be playing Donegal away than be travelling away to Newry, Armagh, Celtic Park," You'd rather play Donegal in ballybofe than div4 derry in Celtic park? See when you talk total nonsense like that is it any wonder no one takes you serious. fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1485 - 06/05/2018 12:43:50 2096892 Link
Replying To fredflint: "You'd rather play Donegal in ballybofe than div4 derry in Celtic park? See when you talk total nonsense like that is it any wonder no one takes you serious." That will be answered because the winners have to go to Celtic Park . Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 06/05/2018 12:57:08 2096894 Link
Replying To fatkeeper: "So based on this you'll be expecting an easy Cavan win, yes?" There nothing easy in the Ulster Championship but I do expect us to win. Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 06/05/2018 13:02:45 2096895 Link
Replying To Inaroundehouse: "Led Mayo at home in a must win game, blew it and got relegated. That's like something we would do. Mark my words they are a pale shadow of the 2012/2014 side. We will put it right up to them . I don't even believe it would be a major shock to beat them. I'd rather be playing Donegal away than be travelling away to Newry, Armagh, Celtic Park," I admire your optimism but I don't share it. I do always try to look for positives and ways for the teams I follow to do well and win important matches but I just don't see a way we will be leaving Ballybofey this day week with anything other than a qualifier to look forward to IamADragon (Cavan) - Posts: 306 - 06/05/2018 13:49:35 2096899 Link
Replying To Inaroundehouse: "That will be answered because the winners have to go to Celtic Park ." Only if the winners are Donegal. fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1485 - 06/05/2018 16:20:08 2096920 Link
Replying To fredflint: "Only if the winners are Donegal." As far I I know Derry have a home game against whoever wins Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 06/05/2018 18:28:44 2096934 Link
Well I have to say that it is good to see a bit of optimism. I personally think that it will be a close game but I can't look past the scoring power of that Donegal forward line. McBrearty is a problem and Clarke would be the man to pick him up but that leaves us exposed at midfield - even though I dont see him as a midfielder. We are really lacking there and that could be the winning and losing of the game. I think we can put up a score if we get the ball in to our forwards but I see the midfield battle being key. A win here would give this team a real shot at an Ulster Final so the incentive is huge. Can Mattie and this team put down a serious marker and win against all the odds? Mattie has to be credited for promotion with a depleted squad from last year. He has us playing positively and you can be sure that he will be telling our boys to go there and have a real go. I am optimistic. Nothing to lose here - GO FOR IT! Reformation (Cavan) - Posts: 356 - 07/05/2018 09:54:22 2097016 Link
Replying To Reformation: "Well I have to say that it is good to see a bit of optimism. I personally think that it will be a close game but I can't look past the scoring power of that Donegal forward line. McBrearty is a problem and Clarke would be the man to pick him up but that leaves us exposed at midfield - even though I dont see him as a midfielder. We are really lacking there and that could be the winning and losing of the game. I think we can put up a score if we get the ball in to our forwards but I see the midfield battle being key. A win here would give this team a real shot at an Ulster Final so the incentive is huge. Can Mattie and this team put down a serious marker and win against all the odds? Mattie has to be credited for promotion with a depleted squad from last year. He has us playing positively and you can be sure that he will be telling our boys to go there and have a real go. I am optimistic. Nothing to lose here - GO FOR IT!" Well to be fair there is something to lose, after all the underage success we've had in recent years and the expectations of a breakthrough at senior level, we really should be going to Donegal with some degree of hope, but I just can't see it myself. I've heard more rumours (I will not post them out of respect for the team) about the injury situation, which, if true, will really hinder us. Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 07/05/2018 13:13:26 2097074 Link
Donegal 4/11 Cavan 11/4 That's what bookies say and that's about right. We will end up having to move players around to pick up there key players and I think we will lose shape as a result. Serious investigations will need to be done on physio and strength & condition as this is the 2nd year in a row this has happened. I'd love to see us pull it off but I can see us get a trimming up there. fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1485 - 07/05/2018 16:16:27 2097105 Link
Replying To fredflint: "Donegal 4/11 Cavan 11/4 That's what bookies say and that's about right. We will end up having to move players around to pick up there key players and I think we will lose shape as a result. Serious investigations will need to be done on physio and strength & condition as this is the 2nd year in a row this has happened. I'd love to see us pull it off but I can see us get a trimming up there." Serious investigations will need to be done on physio and strength & condition as this is the 2nd year in a row this has happened. I don't follow Fred? What has happened? Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 07/05/2018 17:26:21 2097119 Link
Folks, we are big outsiders as the betting would suggest, however, there is no reason why we can't go out and give this game a right cut. The pressure is all on Donegal and I am hoping that we will play with positive intent and that are experienced players will rise to the occasion. We cannot spend all our time focusing in on their players, we have to play our own game and hope for a major performance on the day! kildare blue (Cavan) - Posts: 578 - 07/05/2018 18:16:33 2097128 Link
Replying To Cavan_Shambles: "Serious investigations will need to be done on physio and strength & condition as this is the 2nd year in a row this has happened. I don't follow Fred? What has happened?" Sorry, ridiculous amount of muscular injuries being picked up. Two years in a row now. Something not right with the training. fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1485 - 07/05/2018 19:36:46 2097138 Link
Replying To fredflint: " Replying To Cavan_Shambles: "Serious investigations will need to be done on physio and strength & condition as this is the 2nd year in a row this has happened. I don't follow Fred? What has happened?" Sorry, ridiculous amount of muscular injuries being picked up. Two years in a row now. Something not right with the training." Ground was unusually hard this time last year. Not an excuse this year. Recovery of players needs to be addressed properly. Cannot run them and run them and not consider recovery or ignore if they've been playing with their clubs or if they have a club game coming up. Also if a lad twigs a hamstring on the field of play, running it off is NOT an option. Hardtimes (Cavan) - Posts: 1056 - 07/05/2018 23:55:37 2097182 Link