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My point exactly .... how could any forward enjoy playing Gaelic football these days especially the way Cavan play....and people wonder why players walk away.... If you are not enjoying doing something then the natural thing is to stop doing it...simple.. Sean.66 (Cavan) - Posts: 293 - 13/06/2017 13:10:57 1999032 Link 0 |
And McManus had no bother going through him for the goal...!!!!!!!!!!'
Sean.66 (Cavan) - Posts: 293 - 13/06/2017 13:13:17 1999034 Link 0 |
At least we have more all irelands than Monaghan. foxes_denn (Cavan) - Posts: 129 - 13/06/2017 13:44:44 1999083 Link 0 |
The scoring in club matches in the county would indicate that we have plenty of scoring forwards. Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 13/06/2017 13:45:46 1999084 Link 0 |
Stupid comment. Do you remember any of them.No, they're confined to history. It's the NOW that counts. Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 13/06/2017 13:55:33 1999092 Link 2 |
I never witnessed football like that playing with the wind. Yes the modern game is about getting numbers back. But you must put in tackles win turnovers, not just have men back for the sake of it. We were cleaned out for the goal.basic 16 stuff. Gal Logan brought off a great save too, Faulkner threw his body at another. Add that to monaghans 15 wides we got off very lightly. We are a shambles. Hyland s defensive mentality is still haunting us. Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 13/06/2017 14:23:46 1999110 Link 1 |
52 posts. 52 mentioning Monaghan. 52 wind ups..... zzzzzz..... '52 the last All ireland for Cavan 52 the last we hear from you MadgeKing (Cavan) - Posts: 493 - 13/06/2017 14:31:31 1999116 Link 1 |
Ryan Wiley blocked another on the line, Ryan connelly hit post.
blueman1903 (Cavan) - Posts: 885 - 13/06/2017 14:56:42 1999133 Link 0 |
MadgeKing Before a ball was kicked we had the winning of this match this is what I am saying and once it started we had the winning of this match but sadly this did not happen. What do you mean working with what he has. Next year is no different. Its not like soccer when you can transfer players in. This is his team and he has had ample opportunity to pick players he wanted. ballygowanwater (Cavan) - Posts:149 - 13/06/2017 13:03:00 1999023 ballygowanwater: I am a bit confused with your post but I am sure you understand what you are writing. Not sure I mentioned anything about working with what he has. Where did he get the time to see other players sure there has been no matches has there. ?????? I am sure starting from a few weeks time he will be able to watch a vast array of players and maybe bring in some new blood along with what he has at the moment and who knows maybe Jack Brady and young Cole might have a change of heart and come in for next years campaign. For us all isn't great for us to be critics selectors and a lot more BUT standing on the field of play with over 13000/25000 watching you must be intimidating in itself so we need to get this intimidation factor out of our system and we will sooner rather than later. I know when I walk out onto our full stadium and try and take in the atmosphere for me it makes me very proud that Cavan have such a magnificent set up and still improving but it may very well have the opposite effect on the players they may well tighten up and find it difficult to relax into the game. I am sure with a few slight changes this Cavan team will be a team to be feared and I expect this to happen next year all going well. Time will tell I am sure. The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 13/06/2017 15:09:52 1999143 Link 0 |
Yeah he did with 30 seconds left. That should gaurentee him his place for the next 10 years
Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 13/06/2017 15:54:46 1999168 Link 0 |
Lads from the outside some Cavan followers are very hard on Mattie McGleenan. From talking to numerous people they reckon Cavan football is going nowhere under Mattie. Mattie has got a baptism of fire as Manager playing division 1 and getting a tough draw in the first round of Ulster. This was going to be a difficult task for any manager never mind having to deal with numerous injuries during the year also the high level of drop outs from last years panel. Fergal Flanagan, Jack Brady, Eugene Keating, David Givney and Michael Argue just to name a few. Cavan did admirably in the top division, but unfortunately from a Cavan point of view, failed to avoid the drop. The game against Monaghan was in the balance and if Cavan got a draw Monaghan would have no reason to complain. The last week with the untimely death of Dominic Earley would have been tough on the whole panel. The players fought right to the end and just came up short. Mattie from talking to people is a very positive person and is loving his time working with Cavan. He deserves a chance by supporters but also needs all players eligible to play for Cavan committing to the cause. Monaghan have every player except maybe Chris McGuninnes who aren't part of the panel. Players have to step up and make sure their talent isn't wasted and want to achieve provincial success at Senior level. Mattie is the man to lead that but only if everyone buys into it. shaggylegend (Monaghan) Shaggy in addition to C McGuinness, C. Boyle, P McKenna & Yankee McKenna not available to Mon but with the possible exception of McGuinness none would have made a difference on Sunday. Likewise the Cavan players you instanced wouldn't have upped the quality of the Cavan effort. They were all tried before and didn't do the biz. Cavan need new quality additions to their FF line...maybe Ryan Connolly might fit the bill but that's the big task facing Cavan. Also in the backline Cavan were very susceptible to passes over the top..... near the Cavan goal and although we got 1-1 we could have punished them much more. Shelbourne (Monaghan) - Posts: 567 - 13/06/2017 16:08:51 1999177 Link 0 |
Cavan just don't have the forwards. We need to concentrate on getting some young players into the panel and getting a forwards coach and keep at it until we have somebody who can take scores It's the same story year in year out and if we don't do something soon it will be another 20 years and no ulster title. marita (All) - Posts:424 - 13/06/2017 08:16:19 Absolute sense marita. You can make up for a lack of quality in midfield & in defense with more bodies in there but quality attackers are critical for success. Monaghan need consistent quality contributions, if we are to progress further this year, from McCarthy, McCarron & Owen Duffy in addition to McManus. Whether this happens or not will determine our progress in this championship. Shelbourne (Monaghan) - Posts: 567 - 13/06/2017 16:19:10 1999181 Link 0 |
Not one u21 from 2011 up has stepped up to become a top class inter county play. Not 1. Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 13/06/2017 16:51:06 1999203 Link 0 |
The panel on RTÉ made a valid point that Cavan are programmed in such a way that they are not able to adapt to certain conditions such as a gale force wind at their backs...!! They played into Monaghans hands with slow build up and all scurrying back into defence for kick outs and loss of possession ... A 5 year old could send a team out and instruct them to play the way Cavan do.... You will find this County team costs a huge amount of money to run and those sitting in their expensive Club Breffni seats could not be too happy at what they were looking at...!!! Sean.66 (Cavan) - Posts: 293 - 13/06/2017 17:03:03 1999211 Link 0 |
No harm i doubt it now. Cavan started training in October with the expectation that they had to beat Monaghan in their second league game to stay up and also had a good idea that they would be playing Monaghan in the first round of the championship. After 8 months of the primary focus being on 2 games and 1 team, I find it hard to reckon how Cavan could not beat us at 2 attempts. If it took yous 10 weeks from league to get within 3 points of us, I fear that within the 1 week you have to prepare for Westmeath or Offaly Mattie Mc Gleenan will fail again. If Malachy O Rourke had 10 weeks to study Cavan i doubt that cavan would get within 10 points of Monaghan. Match ups wrong, Offensive system wrong, Cant play with the wind, it was shocking form Cavan given the 10 weeks preperation they had.
monaghanmad (Monaghan) - Posts: 393 - 13/06/2017 17:14:36 1999222 Link 0 |
I've re-read that post a heap of times and have no idea what you're ranting about!! Commitment? Not playing U21s? what are you on about I never said anything of the sort. As it went miles over your head I'll explain it again. Lads here were screaming for Terry to resign for the underachieving he was doing and how he was holding Cavan back. Well they got their wish and now that we have gone backwards all of a sudden theres a heap of excuses with the prominent one being; we simply aren't good enough. So was that not the case last year too? JamsieMac (Cavan) - Posts: 481 - 13/06/2017 17:31:29 1999231 Link 0 |
Haha I was waiting for someone to say it
JamsieMac (Cavan) - Posts: 481 - 13/06/2017 17:32:50 1999234 Link 0 |
We have these discussions year after year, we've been having them for decades now, the simple reality is nothing has ever been done to stop the decline of Cavan football, and nothing will be done. Look at the statistics of our club champions in Ulster, we are officially the worst county in the province when it comes to club football. I think Cavan teams have won 2 out of 21 matches in the past 7 years. That's a abysmal. Ned_Stormcrow (Cavan) - Posts: 1071 - 13/06/2017 18:50:25 1999259 Link 0 |
Agree with much of your post. But how did we win 4 U.21 Ulster titles and almost a 5th if we have no forwards. I believe it's the defensive system and the slow build up that's the problem. Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 13/06/2017 19:22:53 1999280 Link 0 |
i agree with you !!! the main problem i seen from Sunday was the ball not being moved fast enough. people talk about the inside forrward line all the time but they're living of scraps for the whole game. I played corner forward and the one thing i always say is that if the ball isn't let in as soon as you put your head up its too late. You have to let the ball in fast and give the lads a chance in space. before anyone says anything i know the county game is tight now and sometimes a ball into the FF line won't work. but it certainly won't work if its not given dead on time. regardless of the full forward line our lads move the ball too slowly into the scoring zone and by that i mean the 30 metre radius out from the goal. there are a few lads who are the main offenders of this. Its not like its anything that can't be worked on in fact when cavan did do it the last day there was several scores came. they just need to speed up the passes and open up their peripheral vision a bit. sounds simple because it is.
theweanling (Cavan) - Posts: 414 - 14/06/2017 10:08:32 1999445 Link 0 |