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drumalee11 (USA) - Posts: 266 - 06/11/2023 12:58:22 2511737Link 0
Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2335 - 06/11/2023 13:26:14 2511746Link 0
Ireland also turned down a lot of kicks too. Too simplistic to say they'd have won with Pollard on the pitch. They'd have adjusted their game if he was, and we'd have taken points etc They planned for what was there and won it. It's that simple
You also have to consider that they took some very long low % kicks. And off one of those, the ball came off the post and they scored their try from it. So far far too simplistic to say Libbock lost them that game and Pollard would have won it when he did other things happened on the back of those. Simple facts are we did win it
Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2335 - 06/11/2023 13:30:00 2511749Link 0
If Pollard was not on the pitch I don't think they'd have won either of their 3 knockout games either. His kicks were crucial in all 3 games.
Fair enough Ireland might still have beat South Africa if Pollard was playing on that day. But the reality is it was not a do or die game. When South Africa were faced with absolute adversity in the quarters and semis they pulled it out of the bag. When it wasn't do or die they didn't win and that is no coincidence. South Africa are the ultimate knockout rugby team and Ireland are not. Hence why they've won as many World Cups as Rugby Championships.
However lets not take away too much from the Ireland team, they were inches away from a semi, and a final really as they would have beat Argentina. But the reality is they didn't win and it was a massive missed opportunity.
drumalee11 (USA) - Posts: 266 - 06/11/2023 14:13:01 2511759Link 0
Ireland do need to learn that knockout rugby alright. I'd still say that they did better this time, in that they were in the game at the end which we were not usually (since 91 at least). As much as that hurt, they'll learn from that for 27. France and Ireland have the squad make-ups and talent coming through to both be there again. Hard to know which way NZ and SA will go. Both need to learn alright. It was hugely tight this time though,a nd they just about lost tight games. They're not far away
Conscious that we're blocking up Senior thread with rugby chat. They had a chance to win this, and were rightly one of the favourites and were very close even with a loaded draw. That's all. I'm going to leave it there
Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2335 - 06/11/2023 15:48:28 2511787Link 0
SA tend to live on the edge and it could be interpreted as making it up as they go along, they're definitively not afraid to make big calls though. The games in a very healthy place in both France and Ireland in contrast to a lot of countries. Hopefully either can win it in 2027 for the sake of a Northern Hemisphere winner again.
Anyways back to the football as you said.
drumalee11 (USA) - Posts: 266 - 06/11/2023 17:08:45 2511806Link 1