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Football Format Changes Discussion - 3 Like(s)
Replying To Tadhg2020: "No it doesnt collapse. It counts now because everyone is at full strength or close to full strength because the provincial championship is currently the second most important trophy you can win. If you break the link and the big teams are qualified anyway they is every liklihood that those teams will rest players as the league will happen after the provincial championship. Yes it will before you say it wont. There is no way teams will sit around for 6 weeks when the league is qualifying them for the championship proper. The provincials move to February and March and become a preseason/ early season competition. Media lose interest and so do fans. Then when a westmeath beat a Dublin B team in the leinster final it means much less. You know this but we are back to this strawman argument again. Its like groundhog day." I'm not breaking the link.
The big teams are qualified already in the current system.
Whammo86 (National) - 21/05/2026 17:19:53
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Football Format Changes Discussion - 2 Like(s)
Even I can't compete with this :)
No more mismatches? Uefa revamps qualifying for men's major tournaments | Uefa | The Guardian https://share.google/3tSGJyCS1E2UBE8cw
omahant (National) - 21/05/2026 14:21:23
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Hurling Championship 2026 - 2 Like(s)
Replying To munsterchamps: "limerick havnt had a home game first in the round robin since 2019." Well, there you go then :)
If Limerick were inclined to make the same sort of complaints as Waterford are inclined to do, they could very easily say:
"A home game for the first match gives you the best chance of getting off to a good start, but we haven't had one since 2019! But Waterford get one almost every year. It's not fair. We can't get a break. The fixtures are always set in Waterford's favour."
Pikeman96 (National) - 21/05/2026 15:10:18
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Leitrim GAA thread - 2 Like(s)
Replying To ohwow: "Didn't know Leitrim football was popular in Tusla, Oklahoma" It's Tulsa Oklahoma not Tusla!! This page is gone to the dogs lads.
Thanks for ruining the best day page on hoganstand.
I was talking to some very shrewd Leitrim men and they all agree. They believe it needs to get back to being what it was after the non-existent qualifiers.
Back to normality- good luck to Steven and the lads on Saturday. Potentially the last game of the season but I hope and expect it is not
leitrim4sam (National) - 21/05/2026 15:34:29
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Fermanagh GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Pikeman96: "Actually had a feed in The Enniskillen Hotel myself after our League match up there earlier this year. Would recommend. It's on the right side of town for the trip back to Wexford too!" Thanks Pikeman, hopefully we're not looking for the quickest way out if town !!
Yellaman (National) - 22/05/2026 12:46:22
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Galway Hurling thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To galway19: "One way traffic in the u20 final. The scoreline flattered Kilkenny and if we had our full squad available it could have been a 20 point beating. Very funny watching David Barcoe trying to bully some of our lads in the first half, he barely hit or caught a ball all day and then when Rabbitte came in on him he was all over the place defensively. Rightly sent off in the end. Jack Shaughnessy is some talent for an 18 year old. Two cups secured in Leinster and hopefully we can pick up the third in a few weeks time as well as an all ireland u20 title" Nigels son... An ounce of breeding is worth a tonne of feeding. Thought Fallon was brilliant at 3. Cullen, ed o Reilly, callanan, Vince Morgan all had great games.
BigBàsMan (National) - 21/05/2026 14:18:49
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Roscommon GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
Unchanged starting 15 team named for Sunday.
Conor Carroll - St Brigids
Patrick Gavin - Clann na nGael
Caelim Keogh - Padraig Pearses
Eoin McCormack - St Dominic's
Eoin Ward - Fuerty
Ronan Daly - Padraig Pearses
Senan Lambe - Roscommon Gaels
Keith Doyle - St Dominic's
Conor Ryan - Padraig Pearses
Dylan Ruane - Michael Glaveys
Enda Smith - Boyle
Darragh Heneghan - Michael Glaveys
Diarmuid Murtagh - St Faithleachs
Colm Neary - Strokestown
Rob Heneghan - Michael Glaveys
Subs
Aaron Brady - Elphin
Niall Higgins - Navan O'Mahonys
Robbie Dolan - St Brigids
Ruaidhri Fallon - St Brigids
Brian Stack - St Brigids
Ultan Harney - Clann na nGael
Shane Cunnane - St Brigids
Dáire Cregg - Boyle
Paul Carey - Padraig Pearses
Conor Hand - St Brigids
Cian McKeon - Boyle
No Darragh Canavan for Tyrone but he missed the majority of last game where they pushed Armagh all the way.
Tough competitive encounter expected. In Kennedy,Fitzpatrick they have one of the best midfield pairings in the country and good full forward in Donnelly,McCurry,Jordan that will need to be kept tabs on. Kieran McGeary returning to their starting team a major boost also.
The very best of luck to all the Roscommon players and management on Sunday in Dr Hyde Park.
The_analyser (National) - 22/05/2026 12:29:43
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Football Format Changes Discussion - 1 Like(s)
Replying To GreenandRed: "Division 1 teams are qualified before the league has started. Depending on Division One teams objectives it can be a preseason league with some teams looking to avoid the top two once they have avoided releagation. Divisions 2 and 3 are the better divisions with teams more motivated throughout the league. Also depends on teams plans. Easier to plan for All Ireland series when your guaranteed to be in it. Not so easy if you're a Division 2 Ulster team. Could be looking at going flatout to stay in a Division 2 position to qualify for All Ireland and ease out of Ulster championship to prepare for All Ireland." I'm not really sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing agreeing with me or if your critiquing the current system.
I agree with your analysis.
My point of view is that having a league as the secondary competition is a waste of time.
We've a limited window to play all the fixtures in the calendar to have 11 weeks of that taken up by a competition where different teams have different priorities and some are just using the games as warm ups is not a good use of the time resources to us.
Whammo86 (National) - 22/05/2026 09:23:47
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Dublin GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
O'Donnell in for McHugh. A few oddish positional changes. I imagine Groake will drop back.
I suspect too that there might be one or two subs starting depending on day and likely Kilkenny starters.
Day for the trenches.
BarneyGrant (National) - 21/05/2026 22:24:06
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Westmeath Football thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Bruno@1: "Once again well done to all squad and management on a brilliant Leinster Championship win.Amazing scenes and support in Croke park on sunday and later that evening in Mullingar.Now I would like to note and say get well soon to the lads who were there with the squad on sunday but unfortunately thru injury could not take part.Boidu Sayeh who came back into the fold and played like he was never away.Rock solid and even scored a memorable point against Limerick back in March.Jonathan Lynam also back in midfield and was surely going to play a huge part for Westmeath for the season.Jonathan scored 2 cracking goals against Sligo back in January and surely more was to come.Conor McCormack out thru and injured disc problem worked his way back to fitness only to last 8 minutes in 1/4 final against Meath.Conor got his leg broken in making that great save from McBride and save a certain goal-whos to know what the result would have been uf Meath had scored at that time..Brian Guerin who had performed very well in league last year and early part of this season and was looking to nail down a midfield spot.And finally the maestro-Luke Loughlin who along with David Clifford was probably the best forward in the country leading up the the Kildare game.Luke's ability and work rate is huge and to lose him at such a vital time could have spelt disaster for Westmeath.His ability to take on players and score 2 pointers and goals is second to none and would definately have been in All-Star conversations come seasons end.But fair play to the younger lads who came in and kept in and stood up when needed.Now on to all Ireland series with great hope for a successful campaign." Best forward leading up to the Kildare match?
We were in division 3 and couldn't come out of it, and you're saying he is up there with David Clifford.
He,'s a great footballer, but don't embarrass yourself coming up with a statement like that. Try and keep this thread to some common sense.
Joeynyc (National) - 21/05/2026 21:54:19
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Leitrim GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
Carlow conceded those 6 goals to Antrim their last day out.
Just to keep some perspective on it. Antrim are tougher nuts than London I think.
We should be competitive at least.
Boxtyeater (National) - 21/05/2026 21:50:18
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Carlow GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To CARPS: "I'm not having a swipe at Eire Og. I'm complaining about Palatine." As mentioned here previously, only 4 Pal players were asked into senior panel pre league.
Crowley,
Ciaran Moran, who has retired after many years of great service, now has family and is not living in Carlow,
Cian Cashman, who played during the O'Byrne cup and was then let go from the panel after the O Byrne cup shield, in which he had started.
Finbar Kavanagh, who didn't commit as he is sitting final accountancy exams.
No others were asked.
Since the league finished Bryan McMahon was asked but is currently injured, so there was no point.
Pal did contribute 8 players to the county u-20 panel.
This thing of Pal not bothering is rubbish. The reality is that they don't have enough players up to the standard of playing inter county football, in county managements eyes, compared to other clubs
pieman (National) - 21/05/2026 19:43:42
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Westmeath Hurling thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Loughlenegale: "Not Personal. Just a long time passion. In 1998 our CB at the time refused to take promotion earned on the field of play. Between restructuring and close games & playoffs over the years it was 2019 before we actually got a chance to win promotion again on the field of play. That discission in 98 set us back 5 Years with the initial blow with lost players management etc. So this rebuild project is concerning for me. I wont point it out again but it was a total clear out form kit men to S&C and so on. I agree not all in KOB control. This level of rebuild can backfire and leave us with a lost generation who never get a chance to meet their potential." In 1998, the Westmeath senior hurlers were cutting thristles down in what would essentially have been division 3 of the national hurling league today. We were down with the likes of Louth, Tyrone, Roscommon etc. Restructuring of the hurling league, getting promoted or the county board offering 50 Hail Mary's wouldn't have mattered a fig to our chances of playing the top stuff back then.
We were simply no good back then. We couldn't even get out of the Leinster B group back in those days as it was called, the forerunner of the Joe Mc where they would hide Westmeath, Meath, Carlow, Laois etc away from the big guns to decide who would go out to get slaughtered by Offaly, Kilkenny, Wexford etc.
When I think back on that era, hurling standards in the so-called weaker counties have come on a sight. The Joe Mc winners are no longer absolute cannon fodder when they go up and teams like Kildare, Westmeath, Carlow can mix it on a good day with the big guns and usually at least keep the score respectable these days. I think Meath won the Leinster B group in 98 and their reward was getting battered by the eventual All Ireland winners Offaly by 30+ points in the Leinster championship proper.
That says a lot about where Westmeath was compared to the top teams when we couldn't even get out of the Leinster B group back then to face them.Westmeath were a million miles off division 1A and 1B teams back then. Strength, conditioning, JP McManus investing a million quid in us, a few prayers from Mother Theresa, nothing earthly or heavenly would have made Westmeath competitive in that era.
Things only started getting a little better since the Christy Ring competition came along around 2005 (Christy Ring was equivalent to the Joe Mc level today back then). That divying up of the hurling championship has reduced those massacres and allowed the weaker teams to build up to a higher standard. We unexpectedly won the first Christy Ring in 2005. Down were raging hot favourites that day too. Westmeath just barely won that game. Then Westmeath produced a miracle in a monsoon below in O'Moore park the following year in Leinster and we bet Dublin. Then we got to see Shefflin and that great Kilkenny team play in Cusack park that summer. That was never a contest though really. But, things in general are much better now.
Anyway, now it's a rebuild job that's it. Westmeath have retained Joe Mc status. Barring the Laois game, most of the games we stayed competitive with a young team. Still a chance too to go up to Down and finish the year on a high too. Look at the footballers example too. You have to taste bitterness and hard defeats before you can grow. Last year the footballers kept losing tight games. This year they can't stop winning. Long may it continue too. Hopefully, their example and the general good feeling around the county now can spur on our hurlers too in the future.
RadioactiveTan (National) - 21/05/2026 18:38:02
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Galway Football thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Kickitout: "The main reason Roscommon won majority of there own kickouts is Galway basically gave them up short I'd say Galway have being doing this consistently under Joyce it cost them all Ireland v Armagh Galway not push up on kickouts until 66 min and won everything from there on but 2 late same v Meath last year pushed up and scored 2-04 in few mins then back to normal , I think both Mcdonnagh and o connaghile need start v Kildare they way better at putting pressure on kickouts ,, I mske a prediction Ross not win 81% v Tyrone as Tyrone will push up on them big time I expect Ross win by 5 ,," Agree, all of our loss's over the last few years were because we didn't get it right tactically and failed to take the opportunities we were given. We have no business in this championship if we are going to give away the opposing teams kickoffs and fail to even break even on our own. Joyce and company seem to put this failure down to the goalkeepers where neither of them have made a strong case over the other.
Another thing that has become blatantly obvious is our lack of pace out the field, in the Roscommon game some of their players were running away from our backs with the ball.
The experts seem to think we will win Saturdays game with ease but it should be worth mentioning Kildare ran W'Meath close and we should treat them with the utmost respect.
Galway4ever (National) - 21/05/2026 17:56:17
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Donegal GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
Donegal went from 13/8 into 11/10
Whatever about the injuries, someone sees away wins.
Equally excited as I am scared to see does Langan and co take the field.
At full strength, we go into their own backyard and beat them.
Up Donegal!!!
shaggykev (National) - 21/05/2026 17:32:58
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Monaghan GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To TheGreatRambo: "Nobody ridicules players around here, not should they, its saved for managers/coaches that don't suit peoples agendas." I see monaghan Facebook advertising it as a paul mcgurr cup game and not tier 3 game.
farneygael3 (National) - 21/05/2026 17:23:36
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Galway Football thread - 1 Like(s)
The main reason Roscommon won majority of there own kickouts is Galway basically gave them up short I'd say Galway have being doing this consistently under Joyce it cost them all Ireland v Armagh Galway not push up on kickouts until 66 min and won everything from there on but 2 late same v Meath last year pushed up and scored 2-04 in few mins then back to normal , I think both Mcdonnagh and o connaghile need start v Kildare they way better at putting pressure on kickouts ,, I mske a prediction Ross not win 81% v Tyrone as Tyrone will push up on them big time I expect Ross win by 5 ,,
Kickitout (National) - 21/05/2026 16:01:25
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Galway Hurling thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To BigBàsMan: "Nigels son... An ounce of breeding is worth a tonne of feeding. Thought Fallon was brilliant at 3. Cullen, ed o Reilly, callanan, Vince Morgan all had great games." IMO the introduction of Cahalan and Rabbitte had a big influence on the game, Galway were the better team but kept a poor Kilkenny team in the game until those lads came on to put the result in no doubt who would win.
katser (National) - 21/05/2026 15:42:36
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Galway Hurling thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To SouthGalway: "Great win by the U20s v Kilkenny. Leinster Minor and U20 Champions. Hon Galway!" The great invasion or should I say "invitation " of the Connaught Warriors into Leinster is paying off because by the looks of the Minor and U20 competitions Galway could be dominant and conquerors of Leinster for the foreseeable future!
katser (National) - 21/05/2026 15:36:36
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Football Championship 2026 - 1 Like(s)
Replying To JimB1991: "His point seems to be because Kerry don't win the All Ireland every single year its not an issue, or at least that's what I got from the waffle." You mean that being ablet to gear your training to be ready for the last weekend in May, when everyone has to be ready to go 5-6 weeks earlier, is not an advantage! Poppycock I tell you.
tirawleybaron (National) - 21/05/2026 15:12:02
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