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Non-Gaa Forum - 4 Like(s)
Same people who are attacking flying the tricolour as racist now are same sort of people who attacked it as signalling support for the Provos 30 years ago.
Ironically, since they surrendered the Shinners are now among the first gang!
BarneyGrant (National) - 12/10/2025 09:27:16
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Non-Gaa Forum - 2 Like(s)
Replying To FullOfPorter: "What really needs to happen is the implementation of a Palestinian state and the reversal of Israeli plantations in the West Bank.
A lot of credit going to the US for achieving a ceasefire. What sort of world do we live in when the biggest enabler of Israeli genocide is praised for finally forcing a halt to that genocide after two years. It's the least they could do. A lot of talk about lasting peace in the middle. No mention of Palestinian sovereignty. Sounds like just going back to the regime before Oct 7th attacks, minus Hamas.
What has happened in Palestine is very similar to what happened in Ireland from the Elizabethan conquests through to the brutal Cromwellian conquest in the 1600s. I think that common sense of past injustice is why a lot of Irish people are sympathetic to the Palestinian cause." Do you think a Palestinian state will solve the issue?
I don't have strong views either way, I actually think the issue there is not solvable. I applaud anyone who brings peace to the region (Republican, Democrat, anyone) but we have seen this play out before. Bill Clinton brought Peace there in 1993, getting Rabin and Arafat to shake hands in Oslo. That peace lasted 7 years. A change of US President can be exploited by both parties. The least thing can set the region off. I think you have two groups who exist to wipe the other off the map.
My fear is that once peace descends there will be thousands of people grieving atrocities and putting ourselves in their shoes, isn't it difficult to sit silently without thinking of revenge?
Israel will continue doing work on the ground to create their enemy's enemy. When Arafat was in power Israel helped Hamas to gain leverage over the PLO. Now they are helping Hamas's enemies there. Towards the end of Arafat's life there was a sense that he was losing control. The 2000 uprising just ratcheted things up and by the time he died the void of his death enabled Hamas to gain control. Netenyahu getting back into power made a war of the scale we have seen, inevitable. The vast majority of the man's life has been about overseeing war.
I understand what you say about Irish people feeling solidarity with Palestine but I think that can be mistaken for a justification of October 7th. My own view is what happened on October 7th 2023 was disgusting. What happened since was disgraceful. I'm not pro or anti either side. I think the level of savagery on both sides is depressing. This current peace may last five or ten years, but I think it will fall apart again at some point. I really hope I'm wrong.
slayer (National) - 12/10/2025 12:07:26
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Non-Gaa Forum - 2 Like(s)
Replying To TheFlaker: "I had to go back as I have 3 different posters demanding I answer a question. So your post makes no sense . Take back the flag ? From who exactly?" Take it back from the racists you were ranting about.... read the post I was replying to for god sake :rolleyes:
And if you cared to read the question I posted, I said, how do we take it back... it's not a crime to fly a flag. But no, you're busy getting offended about flying a flag. Talk about woke.
Square_B (National) - 12/10/2025 16:35:26
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Non-Gaa Forum - 2 Like(s)
Replying To BarneyGrant: "Same people who are attacking flying the tricolour as racist now are same sort of people who attacked it as signalling support for the Provos 30 years ago.
Ironically, since they surrendered the Shinners are now among the first gang!" Is the flag not one of reconciliation and peace? Flying the flag is not racist but racists flying the flag is abhorrent to everything the flag represents. For that matter so to the use of the Flag by the Provos. I guess Meagher may have believe one day it would represent a united country in peace however why it was used in 1916 and subsequently adopted by the Free State is a mystery as it was pretty clear by then the symbolism would not make any inroads with the orange side. Perhaps it shows how little the leaders at the time understood what the attitudes of the orange side really were.
Generally Irish people care little about the flag or the anthem. How many times world over have we seen drawings, pictures, writing on the flag and how many times do we get to hear the anthem respected to the end at GAA games. No a word said about it.
zinny (National) - 12/10/2025 16:31:33
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Non-Gaa Forum - 2 Like(s)
Upon reflection, I believe flying a tricolor in Ireland is not racist. The 1916 Proclamation on my wall clearly defines Irish citizenship in an inclusive way. I am fine with those who are against the Irish flag because they are entitled to an opinion. It is not a left-right issue. Do our loyal supporters in Lisbon have to hide the flags coming through Dublin airport?
maroondiesel (National) - 12/10/2025 13:22:36
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Westmeath Football thread - 2 Like(s)
Replying To Augustine: "No surprises in the senior semi today. I was impressed how well shamrocks played in the first half. It was a great game of football. Downs hit a fair few wides in the first half that their forwards should have easily finished. Second half, shamrocks couldn't win any kick outs and the whole game just fell apart.
If Kinnegad played how they did yesterday, it could be a decent final." It wasn't great quality, Shamrocks made so many stupid mistakes. They played like a junior team in the second half. The Downs were playing in 2nd gear. It's scary how easy The Downs are blowing away teams. Kinnegad by 12, Tyrrellspass by 17, St Loman's by 12, Athlone by 15, Shamrocks by 6 in a game they didn't necessarily have to win and again Shamrocks by 11. The Downs are winning games by an average margin of 12, if they don't win the title this year it would be an absolute travesty. They will go well in Leinster which I believe they are looking at already.
iarmhiabu (National) - 12/10/2025 19:30:40
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Non-Gaa Forum - 2 Like(s)
Replying To TheFlaker: "Jeez there are a lot of angry patriots online today." Angry? They're all laughing at you. You're upset over flags. You must be a great neighbor. One of those lads that looks out the window all day looking for something to complain about. Someone puts up a flag or their dog barks and you're all upset. I might go buy a flag today meself just to annoy you. Erin Go Bragh!
SouthGalway (National) - 12/10/2025 14:59:44
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Non-Gaa Forum - 2 Like(s)
There's a lot bigger problems in the country than the National Flag being flown..
Bon (National) - 12/10/2025 18:20:34
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Non-Gaa Forum - 2 Like(s)
Replying To TheFlaker: "Ah you are bringing sports into the argument. Knowing full well it's different.
Can you tell me why these proud Irish people have only started putting flags out in the past couple of years? Same in England? Have they only recently become proud of their heritage? Can you answer that? It's a marvellous coincidence." TheFlaker,
You refuse to answer questions then come back with questions of your own. This comes across as thinking that your opinions and questions are more important than other people's.
Fine if you want this thread to be your own personal echo chamber, but as you won't answer questions then I'll respectfully withdraw from debating you.
Have a good day.
slayer (National) - 12/10/2025 14:12:22
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Non-Gaa Forum - 2 Like(s)
Replying To TheFlaker: "Sports is not the same thing. Simple really and childish to try and link the 2." Where did I mention anything about sport? Try again.
Square_B (National) - 12/10/2025 14:33:32
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Non-Gaa Forum - 2 Like(s)
Replying To TheFlaker: "Take back our flag? What rubbish are you talking. Absolute eejits who think they are more Irish than me because they suddenly want the national flag everywhere? Ask them about their role in their community and what they have done for their people and culture. The majority do sweet all but claim to be proud Irishmen. Embarrassing." Aren't you the lad that said personal profit from US tech and pharma companies was more important than speaking out for human rights?
Doylerwex (National) - 12/10/2025 14:26:13
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Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Square_B: "Take it back from the racists you were ranting about.... read the post I was replying to for god sake :rolleyes:
And if you cared to read the question I posted, I said, how do we take it back... it's not a crime to fly a flag. But no, you're busy getting offended about flying a flag. Talk about woke." Ah woke. There we are. A nice lazy comment. Again your post made no sense. So roll those eyes lad.
TheFlaker (National) - 12/10/2025 16:45:33
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Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)
Replying To TheFlaker: "Whats the question exactly? I have 2 posters asking me that? But knowing this place it's probably the same person?" Oh look, pretending you don't know what the question was. LOL
Square_B (National) - 12/10/2025 15:16:38
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Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)
Replying To TheFlaker: "Totally missing my point. The take back the flag eejits i have encountered question the likes of me. Yet most of them are not invested in Irish culture. But claim they are.
I will keep asking the same question. Why is the flag phenomenon a recent development? Here and in the UK? We all know what it's linked to. Or did all these people just suddenly decide they were proud to be Irish in the past couple of years?" I usually see the Irish Flags out at St Patrick's Day, around the Olympics, Major sporting events like when Ireland was doing well by qualifying for the World Cup, etc. Never thought about it too much which is why you puzzle me. Don't trends come and go? Maybe it's just a simple trend and these people are just ordinary people no more harmful than yourself but you'll never know if you just sit there and assume the worst possible notions.
SouthGalway (National) - 12/10/2025 17:20:42
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Galway Football thread - 1 Like(s)
We didn't deserve to win either semi final although Salthill nearly blew it.
Hope Maher is OK
Again, Caltra the better team in intermediate semi
Fancy Spiddal. Look best equipped to return to senior and stay up.
Serious club for such small numbers.
handpassking (National) - 12/10/2025 18:46:26
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Galway Hurling thread - 1 Like(s)
PS under lights should be given a chance. Good for clubs in west to be able to bring kids into see two good matches, hopefully will be good for hurling in west. and traffic will not be a problem on a sat evening, nor will people have to turn up an hour before the first game to get a seat in the stand.
batitout (National) - 12/10/2025 19:13:20
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Donegal GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To eunans4ever: "County final done and dusted at HT.
Is this the end of this glenties/Fintown team or can they pull it off from here - they don't look to have the legs at all for Gweedore" In fairness that comment needs a laughing my head off emoji...
SouthOfTheGap (National) - 12/10/2025 19:27:42
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Galway Football thread - 1 Like(s)
Should Joyce ring Maghus Breathnach? What a score to win the match for Spiddal.
If Liam O Conghaile is fit can't see Caltra winning. A very strong physical and fit team with a nice mixture of tough teak lads and very skillful players.
northbouind (National) - 12/10/2025 20:04:47
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Donegal GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To eunans4ever: "County final done and dusted at HT.
Is this the end of this glenties/Fintown team or can they pull it off from here - they don't look to have the legs at all for Gweedore" Your footballing insight is amazing
tirconaillabu (National) - 12/10/2025 20:09:39
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Roscommon GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
The semi-finalists in the senior championship Clann na nGael,Padraig Pearses,St Brigids,St Faithleachs are all one and done in the U20 championship. Taken out by Dominic's,Kilbride,Castlerea and Kilglass Barrys this weekend.
The semi final line ups for the U20 championship
Division 1
Michael Glaveys/Eire Og or Boyle v Shannon Gaels/Kilmore
Roscommon Gaels v Dominic's
Division 2
Castlerea v Oran/Croans
St Aidans v Kilbride
Division 3
Michael's/Ronans v Kilglass/Barrys
St Ciarans v Tulsk
The_analyser (National) - 12/10/2025 21:27:55
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