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What do posters think of Colm Key's comment in the Indo today He claims that figures show that - 'Kerry are the market leaders when it comes to league black cards - 25 in four years'. I find that amazing and hard to believe. I think it paints an unfair picture of Kerry's approach to the game. neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 20/04/2017 16:15:32 1981194 Link 1 |
The black card hasn't been around for 4 years?
jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 20/04/2017 16:19:52 1981198 Link 1 |
A survey of black cards handed out during the national league shows that competition winners Kerry received more than anybody else (25), followed by Down, Longford and Sligo on 22. All-Ireland champions Dublin were shown just nine. jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 20/04/2017 16:21:38 1981201 Link 0 |
You know Kerry always want to be Top no matter what, Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 20/04/2017 16:51:54 1981211 Link 0 |
People can come up with statistics to prove anything Kent. Forty per cent of people know that! These stats can be used for an agenda / to goad certain parties / to "prove" cynicism / to "prove" favouritism / to "disprove" favouritism ... / etc. / ... for no good reason at all! Pick whichever of the above suits and apply it. I can see little value in these stats without a lot more context. Kurt_Angle (Dublin) - Posts: 567 - 20/04/2017 17:01:52 1981214 Link 1 |
What's so amazing about it?
dubarra (Wicklow) - Posts: 541 - 20/04/2017 17:27:13 1981222 Link 1 |
They're the League Champions and that's the only stat that counts for now. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7345 - 20/04/2017 18:19:01 1981235 Link 0 |
I blame Tyrone for kerry picking up black Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 20/04/2017 18:19:23 1981236 Link 1 |
Only the weaker teams pick up black cards when trying to stop the top teams. Maybe it will revert to normal in the c'ship.
neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 20/04/2017 19:23:56 1981242 Link 0 |
So we played 8 games in the league and we got 25 black cards which don't sound right but ok il go with it , so that means we got on average 3 black cards per game and one game where we got four so you can only replace the first two black carded players so on those grounds we won the league playing with 14 men . KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 20/04/2017 19:34:07 1981243 Link 0 |
I think one major weakness with the black card (along with the obvious difficulty for refs to police it) was the introduction of the extra sub with the rule. BlastCalyle (Mayo) - Posts: 206 - 20/04/2017 19:53:31 1981249 Link 1 |
I think one major weakness with the black card (along with the obvious difficulty for refs to police it) was the introduction of the extra sub with the rule. ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 20/04/2017 21:08:06 1981274 Link 0 |
If the sin bin is 10 mins in an 80 min game like rugby should it be only 8/9 mins in a 70 min GAA game?
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 20/04/2017 22:31:11 1981290 Link 0 |
Surprising stat to be honest I wonder hat the ratio to games is. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 20/04/2017 22:49:35 1981295 Link 0 |
Statistics are all well and good. But the real question how many of the black cards that have been issued in the wrong since it's induction. Monaghan from my workings received 3 during the league with two of them being issued in the wrong. I'm sure with every county they have got more issued in the wrong than right. shaggylegend (Monaghan) - Posts: 1928 - 20/04/2017 23:59:07 1981304 Link 0 |
25 !!, sure it looks like Kerry are using it to give the extra subs a run at this stage ctowers (Dublin) - Posts: 99 - 21/04/2017 06:31:13 1981321 Link 0 |
So 10 mins is grand. All the whingeing about black cards and cynical play. The sin bin when it was trialled was the best solution only for a few choice managers who rallied against it to suit their own agenda.
ctowers (Dublin) - Posts: 99 - 21/04/2017 06:34:41 1981322 Link 1 |
A black card offence in the last few minutes when a team is hanging on to a lead is not really punished by a black card. Let's be honest, in those circumstances, last few minutes, someone bearing down on goal, the sensible thing to do is to take a black card for the team. Any county would do it, unless they're habitual losers who don't know how to win. Of course, it only becomes a National Morality Story if Tyrone does it. The best way to stop black card offences is to *award a close-in free every time and give the offender a yellow*. That'll stop it. Assuming the GAA is serious about eliminating cynical / negative play, which I doubt. Also, a wider issue is teams running pointless time-wasting subs in the last few minutes to protect a lead. Everyone does it, GAA and soccer teams alike. But it's deeply cynical crap and I'd like to see it that there can be no subs in the last 5 minutes unless for an obvious injury. essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 21/04/2017 08:22:47 1981331 Link 0 |
Unfortunately, that would be nigh on impossible to effectively police. How many players would "limp" off the field in the last few minutes to be replaced by a sub, only to miraculously recover for the warm down etc.? Tactical substitutions became a reality when the number was increased to 6 (and maybe even before then). Kurt_Angle (Dublin) - Posts: 567 - 21/04/2017 11:46:18 1981405 Link 0 |
No subs last 5 mins unless a head injury , love it . I can see why every team wants to run a clock down but it bores the pants off me and its starting to happen a lot earlier than 5 mins in some games
Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 21/04/2017 11:51:37 1981410 Link 0 |