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The G.A.A. have built up the super eights to no end over the last couple of months. Yet here we are today after 1 poor game and a not so bad game they have monaghan v kildare playing at 2pm yet at the same time have an all Ireland hurling quarter final being played at the same time. Who makes these fixtures and why clash the be all and end all of a super eight game against the hurling match complete mess and thats not to mention kerry v galway throwing in the same time as a world cup final that only happens every 4 years. Utter madness mrsme (USA) - Posts: 172 - 15/07/2018 12:55:01 2122020 Link
It doesn't make any sense. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4226 - 15/07/2018 13:02:40 2122026 Link
Replying To mrsme: "The G.A.A. have built up the super eights to no end over the last couple of months. Yet here we are today after 1 poor game and a not so bad game they have monaghan v kildare playing at 2pm yet at the same time have an all Ireland hurling quarter final being played at the same time. Who makes these fixtures and why clash the be all and end all of a super eight game against the hurling match complete mess and thats not to mention kerry v galway throwing in the same time as a world cup final that only happens every 4 years. Utter madness" yes and this is only the start of it...will be interesting to see the attendance when it comes to the kerry galway game today...all the kildare and monaghan supporters will have headed off to watch the soccer, and add in the fact that most of kerry won't travel because they're too busy making money from tourists and galway not travelling because they're focussed on a hurling team thats flying..and thats before we even get to the dead rubbers in the last round of super 8's mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - Posts: 1821 - 15/07/2018 13:11:38 2122034 Link
Replying To mrsme: "The G.A.A. have built up the super eights to no end over the last couple of months. Yet here we are today after 1 poor game and a not so bad game they have monaghan v kildare playing at 2pm yet at the same time have an all Ireland hurling quarter final being played at the same time. Who makes these fixtures and why clash the be all and end all of a super eight game against the hurling match complete mess and thats not to mention kerry v galway throwing in the same time as a world cup final that only happens every 4 years. Utter madness" You'd get the impression that the GAA powers that be couldn't organise a pss up in a brewery alright, the Super 8's has a feeling of a bad idea already for some reason. depending on how the results go the last game in each section could be a winner takes all so those games could be good, eg if we beat Roscommon and the Dubs beat Tyrone next weekend our game with Tyrone will be a quarter final effectively, hope todays games are more competitive anyway. Tirchonaill1 (Donegal)* - Posts: 2748 - 15/07/2018 13:12:09 2122036 Link
Super 8s could be good. But it has to be marketed and organised properly. The Double Headers don't work. At any given time it seems half the stadium is going to the toilet or the bar or the burger stand or leaving early because they were only there for one match. No more Double Headers. tyroneed (Tyrone) - Posts: 753 - 15/07/2018 13:12:23 2122037 Link
The novelty has worn off a long time ago. I remember in the mid 00s a few ulster finals in Croke park. Initially it was a good idea. By 2006 the craic had gone totally out of it. Attendances had dropped from almost capacity to 50000 for 2016. The trend would have continued if clones had not been re used in 2007 and thereafter. Same with the early days of the back door. 2002 the quarter finals in Croke park were really successful double headers, but the novelty wore off. I can think of many numerous ones between 2010 and now that just were awful in terms of attendances. But it is all about the corporate boxes unfortunately. Get used to even more of it over the coming years. Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 15/07/2018 13:26:41 2122045 Link
Replying To tyroneed: "Super 8s could be good. But it has to be marketed and organised properly. The Double Headers don't work. At any given time it seems half the stadium is going to the toilet or the bar or the burger stand or leaving early because they were only there for one match. No more Double Headers." 100% the atmosphere yesterday was very poor. I can't see there being much of a turnout for the Roscommon Dublin game. It's going to be an absolute waste of Croker. I think they need to fit rid of the home, away, Croke Park idea. All games neutral venue and play them in the ground that makes the most sense for the game in question. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4226 - 15/07/2018 13:29:37 2122048 Link
GAA is a hot mess. Hurling and football should not be clashing, wtf? Amateur sportsmen need 2 weeks between big games also. Lots of issues in this coming "off season" no doubt. suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1669 - 15/07/2018 13:36:54 2122059 Link
Replying To Whammo86: "100% the atmosphere yesterday was very poor. I can't see there being much of a turnout for the Roscommon Dublin game. It's going to be an absolute waste of Croker. I think they need to fit rid of the home, away, Croke Park idea. All games neutral venue and play them in the ground that makes the most sense for the game in question." Dragging Kerry and Galway to Croke Park makes no sense. Limerick is the obvious venue. Why Congress agreed to use Croke Park as a neutral venue is beyond reason, what do people think at Congress?. Neutral venues should be the most convenient to the competing counties. thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1741 - 15/07/2018 16:03:58 2122127 Link
Replying To thelongridge: "Dragging Kerry and Galway to Croke Park makes no sense. Limerick is the obvious venue. Why Congress agreed to use Croke Park as a neutral venue is beyond reason, what do people think at Congress?. Neutral venues should be the most convenient to the competing counties." Agreed, the Gaelic Grounds would have been ideal for Kerry/Galway and Navan could have easily held Kildare/Monaghan, the atmosphere was dead in Croker yesterday and seems no better today. This tosh of players wanting or deserving a run in Croke Park gets on my goat, this prestige and importance of the place is being diluted with overuse and the Dubs are able to hire it out as if it were a bouncy castle, I hope this changes at Congress next year and more of our provincial venues get these matches Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 15/07/2018 16:54:42 2122157 Link
Certainly the venues will have to considered for future years.i have said it before on this forum very few will stay to watch two matches its a long time to be in your seat.also with all the matches on tv people can choose when to attend to avoid all the costs involved.We have lots of grounds around to cater for the games to keep them nearer to the teams playing less costs for supporters which might encourage them to go to the match. rollingboh (Dublin) - Posts: 8 - 15/07/2018 17:19:20 2122173 Link
Replying To thelongridge: "Dragging Kerry and Galway to Croke Park makes no sense. Limerick is the obvious venue. Why Congress agreed to use Croke Park as a neutral venue is beyond reason, what do people think at Congress?. Neutral venues should be the most convenient to the competing counties." They chose Croke Park because counties are always whinging that they never get to play there. Sometimes the powers that be can't win no matter what they do. catchturnscore (Longford) - Posts: 149 - 15/07/2018 18:18:07 2122231 Link
Replying To tyroneed: "Super 8s could be good. But it has to be marketed and organised properly. The Double Headers don't work. At any given time it seems half the stadium is going to the toilet or the bar or the burger stand or leaving early because they were only there for one match. No more Double Headers." Agree with you about the double headers in Croker. Its an amazing venue when full but terrible when half empty. There was no need to play these neutral games in Croke Park, play them in provincial venues with a better atmosphere. Donegal v Dublin could have been played in Clones and Tyrone v Roscommon in Sligo or Cavan. Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1874 - 15/07/2018 18:28:00 2122238 Link
Replying To Green_Gold: "Agree with you about the double headers in Croker. Its an amazing venue when full but terrible when half empty. There was no need to play these neutral games in Croke Park, play them in provincial venues with a better atmosphere. Donegal v Dublin could have been played in Clones and Tyrone v Roscommon in Sligo or Cavan." The review at the end of the year will be a chance to fix it. MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 15/07/2018 18:48:10 2122261 Link
I'd abandon neutral venues and give the provincial champions 2 home games each. Malonemagic (Laois) - Posts: 766 - 15/07/2018 18:54:58 2122268 Link
Replying To catchturnscore: "They chose Croke Park because counties are always whinging that they never get to play there. Sometimes the powers that be can't win no matter what they do." Well I never hear too much whinging from them and the four counties in Croke Park today are no strangers too it...... Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 15/07/2018 19:07:03 2122279 Link
You must not listen to local radio then. catchturnscore (Longford) - Posts: 149 - 15/07/2018 21:14:02 2122395 Link
Replying To thelongridge: "Dragging Kerry and Galway to Croke Park makes no sense. Limerick is the obvious venue. Why Congress agreed to use Croke Park as a neutral venue is beyond reason, what do people think at Congress?. Neutral venues should be the most convenient to the competing counties." Corporate boxes Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 15/07/2018 21:45:07 2122410 Link
There seems to be a problem with the surface in Croke Park when it's wet. The ball skids off the surface in a way that makes it very difficult to handle which I can only put down to the synthetic component. Players also find it hard to keep their feet. The fact that this is the only surface of its type in the country makes it difficult for many teams to acclamatise & I think it was partly to blame for the poor first half today. MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 15/07/2018 22:25:10 2122430 Link
I think 30 euro in today is a wee bit dear considering another quarter final next and another quarter final 2 weeks after that!!! People might be rationing the wages and picking their game to go to. Maybe??? theborderfox (Monaghan) - Posts: 138 - 15/07/2018 22:39:36 2122437 Link