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Kerry to win senior & u21 titles this year?

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Replying To moc.dna: "Galway's strongest team in years, should win Connacht & be there or thereabouts in All Ireland series." Ah it should be an interesting competition this year, I still wouldn't write of cork down here in Munster. You say Galway will be strong int west as will mayo and probably Roscommon , up north anything could happen but you think it would be between Tyrone and Donegal. Over in the east it'll be between dubs and Kildare to win that I'd say. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 02/02/2017 22:34:06 1951367 Link
for an outside tip to win the u21 I would look at Cork. kerry minors may have won 3 in a row but they have had some fairly close battles with Cork and got through 1 or 2 of them luckily enough. as for winning the senior title....that conversation can start in August when the flirting is over. woops (Kerry) - Posts: 2073 - 03/02/2017 11:38:00 1951484 Link
Replying To S.Darby14: "Lads. if ye are betting men get your money on Kerry to senior & u21. Having won last 3 minors they will surely win u21 and the like of Jassy Foley, Andrew Barry, Tom Leo Sullivan, Killan Spillane and Mick Burns will add to the senior setup. Throw in a fit James o'Donoghue, Bryan Sheehan(who will play between the stick this year and Anthony Maher. Jack Savage and Connor Kane flying in training. They wont peak in league. They will be priming themselves for Mayo at end of August and the the third sunday in September. Thank me later in year." No they won't IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 06/02/2017 21:02:07 1953023 Link
Kerry def walk the 21 championship. Any odds available for this? Gael85 (Dublin) - Posts: 1433 - 08/02/2017 11:02:36 1953564 Link
Replying To S.Darby14: "Lads. if ye are betting men get your money on Kerry to senior & u21. Having won last 3 minors they will surely win u21 and the like of Jassy Foley, Andrew Barry, Tom Leo Sullivan, Killan Spillane and Mick Burns will add to the senior setup. Throw in a fit James o'Donoghue, Bryan Sheehan(who will play between the stick this year and Anthony Maher. Jack Savage and Connor Kane flying in training. They wont peak in league. They will be priming themselves for Mayo at end of August and the the third sunday in September. Thank me later in year." Won't happen. thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1745 - 08/02/2017 11:39:47 1953575 Link
Not sure why anyone would tip us to win the senior. Will be hard enough to get past Mayo if both teams win their provinces, nevermind trying to beat the dubs. KY4SAM2015 (Kerry) - Posts: 898 - 08/02/2017 12:50:22 1953603 Link
Minor success never Guarantees u21 success. To claim kerry will walk the u21 championship is daft. They will have it tight to win munster. Galway, mayo, Donegal, and Dublin will have a big say in here it goes. At u21 level players become far more tactically aware and whatever gap kerry thought they have will certainly close. Jonnycee (Longford) - Posts: 185 - 11/02/2017 03:38:28 1954597 Link
As regards winning the senior title I don't believe that they will win another senior title till jack o Connor returns to the job. Jonnycee (Longford) - Posts: 185 - 11/02/2017 03:40:50 1954598 Link
Replying To KY4SAM2015: "Not sure why anyone would tip us to win the senior. Will be hard enough to get past Mayo if both teams win their provinces, nevermind trying to beat the dubs." Mayo haven't beaten Kerry in Championship in 21 years. Cant see them beating the Kingdom boys for the foreseeable future. Gael85 (Dublin) - Posts: 1433 - 16/02/2017 19:52:31 1957572 Link
Seems Kerry have problems with injury and availability of crokes players coming into this competition. Can anyone verify? Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 16/02/2017 22:59:53 1957619 Link
Replying To Jonnycee: "Minor success never Guarantees u21 success. To claim kerry will walk the u21 championship is daft. They will have it tight to win munster. Galway, mayo, Donegal, and Dublin will have a big say in here it goes. At u21 level players become far more tactically aware and whatever gap kerry thought they have will certainly close." Totally agree - absolutely no guarantee that minor translates to u21 or indeed senior - before this new crop of Kerry underage talent they won nothing but still could field great senior sides. On the other hand there's been a number of counties like Tyrone who won all Ireland's in minor and never won a thing since. IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 17/02/2017 18:14:44 1957789 Link
Replying To Donegalman: "Seems Kerry have problems with injury and availability of crokes players coming into this competition. Can anyone verify?" Ya Donegal man I think Brian o'beaglaoih will be out till at least Munster final should we get that far, also we'll be missing micháel burns Jordan Kiely tony Brosnan Gavin white and David shaw from the crokes. Plus Patrick Clifford from templnoe, and mark O'Connor from dingle coz he's gone to oz KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 17/02/2017 18:39:32 1957795 Link
Replying To KingdomBoy1: "Ya Donegal man I think Brian o'beaglaoih will be out till at least Munster final should we get that far, also we'll be missing micháel burns Jordan Kiely tony Brosnan Gavin white and David shaw from the crokes. Plus Patrick Clifford from templnoe, and mark O'Connor from dingle coz he's gone to oz" Feelings of deja vu for ye so no? Ye were crippled last year too with the injury list if memory serves me correctly. panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 17/02/2017 19:20:19 1957808 Link
Replying To panamasam: "Feelings of deja vu for ye so no? Ye were crippled last year too with the injury list if memory serves me correctly." Ya we lost a pile of lads last year through injury what ever happened, weather it was over training or just bad luck but every squad has to suffer from injuries and it's an opportunity for someone else to make an impression. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 17/02/2017 21:17:58 1957823 Link
Replying To KingdomBoy1: "Ya we lost a pile of lads last year through injury what ever happened, weather it was over training or just bad luck but every squad has to suffer from injuries and it's an opportunity for someone else to make an impression." True but at U-21 you don't get many bites of the cherry. One bad day/night at the office and your season is over. panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 17/02/2017 22:06:54 1957831 Link
Replying To panamasam: "True but at U-21 you don't get many bites of the cherry. One bad day/night at the office and your season is over." That's true panamasam and especially now that the competition is dropping to U20. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 17/02/2017 22:48:00 1957838 Link
Replying To KingdomBoy1: "That's true panamasam and especially now that the competition is dropping to U20." I doubt ye be complaining about the drop down to U-20 in Kerry no? Definitely won't be complaining about it in Dublin that is for sure. Personally I think this decision stank from high heaven as counties with chance of achieving success at the grade will be deprived of their best players especially in weaker counties if required by the senior team. Odds are out for the competition. No chances taken with Kerry at 6/4 but worthy fav's for me.Other eye catching odds are Donegal at 11/1 which is not a bad each way price given winners of Ulster will play Leinster champions but of course every chance Donegal could be gone at first hurdle given their horrendous draw but win that and I expect those odds will half. Fancy Galway in Connaught but odds of 8/1 is about right given they will play most likely Kerry if they come outta Connaught. Derry at 28/1 the other side that caught my eye at the prices. panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 17/02/2017 23:39:24 1957846 Link
Replying To panamasam: "I doubt ye be complaining about the drop down to U-20 in Kerry no? Definitely won't be complaining about it in Dublin that is for sure. Personally I think this decision stank from high heaven as counties with chance of achieving success at the grade will be deprived of their best players especially in weaker counties if required by the senior team. Odds are out for the competition. No chances taken with Kerry at 6/4 but worthy fav's for me.Other eye catching odds are Donegal at 11/1 which is not a bad each way price given winners of Ulster will play Leinster champions but of course every chance Donegal could be gone at first hurdle given their horrendous draw but win that and I expect those odds will half. Fancy Galway in Connaught but odds of 8/1 is about right given they will play most likely Kerry if they come outta Connaught. Derry at 28/1 the other side that caught my eye at the prices." Panamasam to be honest I'm not happy that they're changing the competitions from U21s to U20 and U18 to U17 as I've said on here lots of times I'm a traditionalist but it will suit the likes of Dublin who have a massive population for sure. The bookies are covering their bases for sure giving us short odds like that and I suppose the Munster draw could have a lot to do with that as I think we play Clare and if we beat them I think we'd have Waterford and if we beat them we'd more than likely have cork or tipp in either Semple stadium or pairc ui rinn which will be a massive ask. Our U21s haven't won in cork in nearly 30 years. What's ye'r draw like in Ulster panamasam? You'd expect Dublin to come out of Leinster I'd say although Kildare have had good minor teams the last few years. I know you fancy Galway in the west but I'd still think mayo as allireland champs will shade it. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 18/02/2017 12:03:31 1957891 Link
Donegal are in Omagh to play Tyrone which really as draws go could not be any worse. The winners will play either Cavan or Fermanagh for a place in the final. Donegal were far and away the best side in Ulster at minor level against the teams they played. Their toughest test was Derry that year but Donegal did not have to play Tyrone. I think if Donegal can beat Tyrone they would be worthy red hot fav's to win Ulster. I am not overly best placed to judge the teams on the other side of the draw though expect Derry to maybe come through there. Though I am not sure how hard they will be hit with players required for the AI club duty. Plus Conor Glass is in Oz I think depriving them of a fantastic talent, as good as any in the country. The problem Donegal have is that with the badly handled mass exodus of players alot of U-21's are gonna be required for league duty, despite beating Roscommon the last day Donegal are gonna have a survival battle on their hands. This means alot of players will be required for both sides which with it will bring tiredness and injury which is far from ideal. Personally would like the U-21's to have precedence but that ain't ever gonna happen with RG in charge. I would imagine Kildare would be very well fancied to win Leinster but they have struggled outside of Leinster. I fancy Galway yes. As for Munster I think ye will break that 30 year hoodoo over Cork provided they beat Tipp. panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 18/02/2017 14:57:35 1957940 Link
Replying To panamasam: "Donegal are in Omagh to play Tyrone which really as draws go could not be any worse. The winners will play either Cavan or Fermanagh for a place in the final. Donegal were far and away the best side in Ulster at minor level against the teams they played. Their toughest test was Derry that year but Donegal did not have to play Tyrone. I think if Donegal can beat Tyrone they would be worthy red hot fav's to win Ulster. I am not overly best placed to judge the teams on the other side of the draw though expect Derry to maybe come through there. Though I am not sure how hard they will be hit with players required for the AI club duty. Plus Conor Glass is in Oz I think depriving them of a fantastic talent, as good as any in the country. The problem Donegal have is that with the badly handled mass exodus of players alot of U-21's are gonna be required for league duty, despite beating Roscommon the last day Donegal are gonna have a survival battle on their hands. This means alot of players will be required for both sides which with it will bring tiredness and injury which is far from ideal. Personally would like the U-21's to have precedence but that ain't ever gonna happen with RG in charge. I would imagine Kildare would be very well fancied to win Leinster but they have struggled outside of Leinster. I fancy Galway yes. As for Munster I think ye will break that 30 year hoodoo over Cork provided they beat Tipp." Meath are strong,but are missing alot of players for their opening game. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 18/02/2017 16:18:03 1957951 Link