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Replying To ROS1: "The central point of Ireland is in lecarrow south roscommon. It is you thats need to go back to school" In Connacht it is the most central of the five county grounds for the five counties of Connacht.
ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 10/11/2016 10:31:10
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Replying To ROS1: "In Connacht it is the most central of the five county grounds for the five counties of Connacht." It's not! Decide whether you are on about Ireland now or going back to talk about Connacht Roscommon town is near the eastern border of the Provence as stated earlier somewhere like claremorris would be central to Connacht! Your still not out of the classroom yet buddy!
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Replying To Pericles: "Agree with Riverboys, if we could start from scratch then Claremorris makes most sense. But with attendances falling for championship football, and no home games for Galway in the hurling, then what's the point? Galway made a big mistake putting resources into Pearse and letting Tuam decline. If they could cash that investment out and redirect the money into Tuam or a site outside the city, then that could maybe be looked at as a possible quality provincial ground. As things stand Castlebar would be next best placed as at least halfway there in terms of what it has to offer. Ironically Pearse, purely because it's in Galway, is the only site I'm aware of which is being considered for upgrade in support of the rugby world cup bid. A real case of throwing good money after bad imo." i've heard it all now-build a stadium in claremorris!!!!
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From an all province access point, Castlebar is more central than Roscommon, and will be more so when the M17 is complete. (<1hour from anywhere in Galway). Road infrastructure to Roscommon is poor and unlikely to be substantially improved due to location between N4 &N5.
For current infrastructure point of view, enhancing Castlebar is the most obvious option, Bring the stand around the South Terrace and put a smaller stand on South and North terrace. This would be the most economic option in terms of adding to existing stadium.
And finally, doing all of that would be madness as Castlebar doesn't fill today and never will
BlastCalyle (Mayo) - Posts: 206 - 10/11/2016 15:44:56
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Replying To BlastCalyle: "From an all province access point, Castlebar is more central than Roscommon, and will be more so when the M17 is complete. (<1hour from anywhere in Galway). Road infrastructure to Roscommon is poor and unlikely to be substantially improved due to location between N4 &N5.
For current infrastructure point of view, enhancing Castlebar is the most obvious option, Bring the stand around the South Terrace and put a smaller stand on South and North terrace. This would be the most economic option in terms of adding to existing stadium.
And finally, doing all of that would be madness as Castlebar doesn't fill today and never will" Maybe it''s in the wrong location!
neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 10/11/2016 16:45:53
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Replying To BlastCalyle: "From an all province access point, Castlebar is more central than Roscommon, and will be more so when the M17 is complete. (<1hour from anywhere in Galway). Road infrastructure to Roscommon is poor and unlikely to be substantially improved due to location between N4 &N5.
For current infrastructure point of view, enhancing Castlebar is the most obvious option, Bring the stand around the South Terrace and put a smaller stand on South and North terrace. This would be the most economic option in terms of adding to existing stadium.
And finally, doing all of that would be madness as Castlebar doesn't fill today and never will" Roscommon is within half an hour is from all 4 other counties. Less in the case of Galway. The n17 doesn't go to castlebar. And I would say there is more chance of the n4 and n5 becoming motorways then the n17. Castlebar doesn't get any games outside Connacht because it is to get west. Spending more money on it would be daft. I doubt the will ever get planning for a stand where the media centre side in any case
ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 10/11/2016 17:15:49
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Replying To Spoddgy: "It's not! Decide whether you are on about Ireland now or going back to talk about Connacht Roscommon town is near the eastern border of the Provence as stated earlier somewhere like claremorris would be central to Connacht! Your still not out of the classroom yet buddy!" Roscommon town is nearer to all the 4 counties then castlebar it is the best location
ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 10/11/2016 17:18:48
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Replying To BlastCalyle: "From an all province access point, Castlebar is more central than Roscommon, and will be more so when the M17 is complete. (<1hour from anywhere in Galway). Road infrastructure to Roscommon is poor and unlikely to be substantially improved due to location between N4 &N5.
For current infrastructure point of view, enhancing Castlebar is the most obvious option, Bring the stand around the South Terrace and put a smaller stand on South and North terrace. This would be the most economic option in terms of adding to existing stadium.
And finally, doing all of that would be madness as Castlebar doesn't fill today and never will" Not to mention the lack of parking in castlebar
ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 10/11/2016 17:24:59
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Shane Curran made a good point about the population levels around West Galway/South Roscommon, East Westmeath... seems an interesting thought at least. Athlone area is very central for the rest of the country with good motorway/public transport access but it could be somewhat out of the way for the northern area of the province
WestsideWarrior (Galway) - Posts: 24 - 10/11/2016 18:15:50
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I can't believe I'm getting into this debate but here goes, Sligo town is out to far north, Castlebar is out as it is central to only Westport, Carrick on Shannon is out to small and Leitrim people have no delusions of grandeur anyway, Roscommon is out no infrastructure of any sort ( not even an A&E for a major incident), as for Claremorris it received the only infrastructure it required already a bypass.
The only logical location to build a Stadium in the West of Ireland is the East side of Galway city near the old Airport or Racetrack. Half the population of the provience already lives here in the city and county. The population of Galway city is almost the same as Co. Mayo or Sligo, Leitrim and Roscommon combined.
Nowhere else has the hospital, or hotel capacity (for concerts), road or rail network. It has the ability to provide a new home for Connacht rugby, however I never see that exceeding 20000. It can be linked to the only University in Connacht in order to partner for relevant sport science work similar to the work that Niall Moyna carries out in DCU.
It also offers the IRFU, GAA & FAI a central location for games outside of Dublin e.g a qualifier or quarter final game say between Kerry and Donegal or Derry and Cork.
If the Leinster council get there act together it would also be able to host Galway/kilkenny or do ye propose bringing that the Hyde also?
GDL (Galway) - Posts: 722 - 10/11/2016 22:22:24
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Replying To GDL: "I can't believe I'm getting into this debate but here goes, Sligo town is out to far north, Castlebar is out as it is central to only Westport, Carrick on Shannon is out to small and Leitrim people have no delusions of grandeur anyway, Roscommon is out no infrastructure of any sort ( not even an A&E for a major incident), as for Claremorris it received the only infrastructure it required already a bypass.
The only logical location to build a Stadium in the West of Ireland is the East side of Galway city near the old Airport or Racetrack. Half the population of the provience already lives here in the city and county. The population of Galway city is almost the same as Co. Mayo or Sligo, Leitrim and Roscommon combined.
Nowhere else has the hospital, or hotel capacity (for concerts), road or rail network. It has the ability to provide a new home for Connacht rugby, however I never see that exceeding 20000. It can be linked to the only University in Connacht in order to partner for relevant sport science work similar to the work that Niall Moyna carries out in DCU.
It also offers the IRFU, GAA & FAI a central location for games outside of Dublin e.g a qualifier or quarter final game say between Kerry and Donegal or Derry and Cork.
If the Leinster council get there act together it would also be able to host Galway/kilkenny or do ye propose bringing that the Hyde also?" Do the GAA own Pearse Stadium, is it paid for? With property prices only going one way they'd make a nice bit of money by selling it to try and fund another stadium in a less expensive, land-wise, part of town.
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Replying To GreenandRed: "Do the GAA own Pearse Stadium, is it paid for? With property prices only going one way they'd make a nice bit of money by selling it to try and fund another stadium in a less expensive, land-wise, part of town." GAA own Pearse Stadium and it has no debt, however former hurling board saddled Galway GAA with debt on a green field site near Oranmore when they wanted to build a hurling centre of excellence. They owe about 3 million on this. Apparently also Pearse Stadium has something in its deeds that it can only be used as a sports field, it was formerly the home of Fr Griffin's/Eire Òg club.
GDL (Galway) - Posts: 722 - 10/11/2016 23:45:38
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Replying To GDL: "I can't believe I'm getting into this debate but here goes, Sligo town is out to far north, Castlebar is out as it is central to only Westport, Carrick on Shannon is out to small and Leitrim people have no delusions of grandeur anyway, Roscommon is out no infrastructure of any sort ( not even an A&E for a major incident), as for Claremorris it received the only infrastructure it required already a bypass.
The only logical location to build a Stadium in the West of Ireland is the East side of Galway city near the old Airport or Racetrack. Half the population of the provience already lives here in the city and county. The population of Galway city is almost the same as Co. Mayo or Sligo, Leitrim and Roscommon combined.
Nowhere else has the hospital, or hotel capacity (for concerts), road or rail network. It has the ability to provide a new home for Connacht rugby, however I never see that exceeding 20000. It can be linked to the only University in Connacht in order to partner for relevant sport science work similar to the work that Niall Moyna carries out in DCU.
It also offers the IRFU, GAA & FAI a central location for games outside of Dublin e.g a qualifier or quarter final game say between Kerry and Donegal or Derry and Cork.
If the Leinster council get there act together it would also be able to host Galway/kilkenny or do ye propose bringing that the Hyde also?" Thurles and clones do not have a&es it does not stop them holding big matches. 53k is alot bigger then a Connacht final. Galway is at the bottom edge of the province, is traffic clogged, there is a very poor roads from the rest of the province to Galway.
How many concerts are held in gaa grounds around the country very few. Galway is to small for any concert. It is very unlikely as galway is on the western coast that any neutral game would be held there. well the Hyde would be nearer to Kilkenny then your galway idea. Galway is also probably the worst supported county in Connacht as well so your argument bout population is moot
ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 11/11/2016 00:15:23
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Replying To GDL: "I can't believe I'm getting into this debate but here goes, Sligo town is out to far north, Castlebar is out as it is central to only Westport, Carrick on Shannon is out to small and Leitrim people have no delusions of grandeur anyway, Roscommon is out no infrastructure of any sort ( not even an A&E for a major incident), as for Claremorris it received the only infrastructure it required already a bypass.
The only logical location to build a Stadium in the West of Ireland is the East side of Galway city near the old Airport or Racetrack. Half the population of the provience already lives here in the city and county. The population of Galway city is almost the same as Co. Mayo or Sligo, Leitrim and Roscommon combined.
Nowhere else has the hospital, or hotel capacity (for concerts), road or rail network. It has the ability to provide a new home for Connacht rugby, however I never see that exceeding 20000. It can be linked to the only University in Connacht in order to partner for relevant sport science work similar to the work that Niall Moyna carries out in DCU.
It also offers the IRFU, GAA & FAI a central location for games outside of Dublin e.g a qualifier or quarter final game say between Kerry and Donegal or Derry and Cork.
If the Leinster council get there act together it would also be able to host Galway/kilkenny or do ye propose bringing that the Hyde also?" Plus there is no rail network from any of the other 4 counties in the province to Galway and even if the were now would the get from the rail station to the stadium. Roscommon would be better connected 'rail else in the province. The college's have there own grounds the don't need big stadium. Galway is the least central in the province of the 5 county towns
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Replying To ROS1: "Roscommon town is nearer to all the 4 counties then castlebar it is the best location" Holy god your still not getting it! I'd be just as quick to go to Galway City as Roscommon town! Your point only works for people in central and east Connacht your not including the four corners of the Provence and where it is central for them!
Spoddgy (Mayo) - Posts: 660 - 11/11/2016 07:56:01
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Replying To ROS1: "Plus there is no rail network from any of the other 4 counties in the province to Galway and even if the were now would the get from the rail station to the stadium. Roscommon would be better connected 'rail else in the province. The college's have there own grounds the don't need big stadium. Galway is the least central in the province of the 5 county towns" Central has nothing to do with it. The best location is Galway.
GDL (Galway) - Posts: 722 - 11/11/2016 09:25:40
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Replying To Spoddgy: "Holy god your still not getting it! I'd be just as quick to go to Galway City as Roscommon town! Your point only works for people in central and east Connacht your not including the four corners of the Provence and where it is central for them!" Roscommon town is nearer counties galway, mayo and far nearer leitrim then castlebar is to counties galway roscommon and leitrim. There ways be people far away from whereever the pitch is. I am sure forexamplw people in bellmullet thing it arkward having to drive to castlebar to see a mayo game. Galway city is far away from every other county not to mention all the other issues with it
ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 11/11/2016 10:06:10
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Replying To GDL: "Central has nothing to do with it. The best location is Galway." If that is the best counter argument you can come up with showed how weak your a rguement is. Your basically saying the location doesn't matter which is rubbish.
ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 11/11/2016 10:09:50
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Replying To GDL: "GAA own Pearse Stadium and it has no debt, however former hurling board saddled Galway GAA with debt on a green field site near Oranmore when they wanted to build a hurling centre of excellence. They owe about 3 million on this. Apparently also Pearse Stadium has something in its deeds that it can only be used as a sports field, it was formerly the home of Fr Griffin's/Eire Òg club." There are three glaring inaccuracies in your post, you need to some research.
moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 11/11/2016 11:22:51
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Is Casement Park the centre of Ulster, its certainly not.
A stadium has to make financial sense first and foremost and throwing money at a project in Roscommon would be ridiculous given it would only likely be close to full capacity twice a year.
There's a reason why there are no concerts at Pearse Stadium, the stadium is one side of one of the more affluent areas of Galway. Galway has the infrastructure to cope with major concerts but doesn't have a stadium in the right part of town.
Between GAA games, Connacht Rugby & Concerts the stadium could attract good attendances for somewhere between 17-20 times a year and I'm sure even Galway would be able to attract a high profile soccer friendly to the City if they had a stadium capable of holding a large crowd.
Outside of Galway even talk of a new stadium is a non starter as no organisation in the world will throw 100m euro's at a project that could only deliver a sizeable attendance twice a year.
TheWestIsAwake (UK) - Posts: 529 - 11/11/2016 11:37:46
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