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Biggest game of weekend is as Royal says, Kildare's visit to Ennis. It is a must win, Lose and they are in all sorts of trouble, and noticeable that the notoriously fickle lily white supporters are already starting to grumble!

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2595 - 18/02/2023 09:38:39    2458773

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Replying To legendzxix:  "All Division 1 counties want to remain in Division 1. Anyone thinking any different is out of touch.
If the fixture committee are sensible, the two Round 1 winners in the group stage will avoid each other in Round 2. In Round 3 you might then have two R1 winners playing for a quarter-final and two R1 losers playing for a preliminary quarter-final. If all teams are on one win each, R3 will naturally be more exciting.
PQF teams will play on 3 weekends in a row. Group winners will have a weekend off prior to the quarter-finals."
Most of the championship games will be uncompetitive up until the All Ireland series. Winning provincials get you a cup but no step above any other team already qualified for the All Ireland series. Hopefully it turns out to be a great championship with plenty of competitive games. But the lack of knockout games until All Ireland pool games are over doesn't look to promote as many competitive games or classics like Galway v Armagh last year.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7376 - 18/02/2023 09:44:26    2458774

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Biggest game of weekend is as Royal says, Kildare's visit to Ennis. It is a must win, Lose and they are in all sorts of trouble, and noticeable that the notoriously fickle lily white supporters are already starting to grumble!"
It's a huge game for them. Clare are seasoned div 2 team and I think it's fair to say they in top 12 or 10 in country. And in Ennis. They can score heavily. They put 16 against us last week and if I take off my royal hat they were at times the better team for long spells. Goals snuck it for us. That is Kildare best chance. Defensive wise clare don't like been run at and can create openings for a team. For me it's a 50/50. If Kildare lose they could likely be in tailteann cup.
On my own county I think it is a case of the number 2 and 3 teams in division looking to see who will join dubs in promotion. I'd be a lot happier if this was in navan. Some alleged disquiet within team this week so I'm hoping it is put aside and we take our chances. Shane walsh inclusion is huge. But Matthew Costello absence is also huge

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 18/02/2023 10:32:44    2458785

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Replying To legendzxix:  "All Division 1 counties want to remain in Division 1. Anyone thinking any different is out of touch.
If the fixture committee are sensible, the two Round 1 winners in the group stage will avoid each other in Round 2. In Round 3 you might then have two R1 winners playing for a quarter-final and two R1 losers playing for a preliminary quarter-final. If all teams are on one win each, R3 will naturally be more exciting.
PQF teams will play on 3 weekends in a row. Group winners will have a weekend off prior to the quarter-finals."
Division 1 is an absolute bore fest. Its a total dirge playing the same teams year in year out. Really enjoying Div 2 of the Cork in the morning.

Not sure the best teams are up there really, i dont think there is anyone in div 1 we couldn't beat, Derry either for that matter and thats two Championship Semi finalists for a start, Two provincials winners and three provincial finalists there to.

The most pragmatic teams are in Div 1 i think.

Maybe the best teams were up there 4-5 years ago.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 18/02/2023 11:17:58    2458797

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Division 1 is an absolute bore fest. Its a total dirge playing the same teams year in year out. Really enjoying Div 2 of the Cork in the morning.

Not sure the best teams are up there really, i dont think there is anyone in div 1 we couldn't beat, Derry either for that matter and thats two Championship Semi finalists for a start, Two provincials winners and three provincial finalists there to.

The most pragmatic teams are in Div 1 i think.

Maybe the best teams were up there 4-5 years ago."
So the top league is the league is whatever league the Dubs are in? Derry played Galway at least twice last year and couldn't live with them in either match.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2018 - 18/02/2023 11:33:33    2458800

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If anybody from RTE follow this site could they change the wording of the Derry v Meath game ? On their RTE guide the Kick Off is 5 PM, it's not bloody soccer.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2018 - 18/02/2023 11:53:40    2458803

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Replying To Saynothing:  "So the top league is the league is whatever league the Dubs are in? Derry played Galway at least twice last year and couldn't live with them in either match."
Well i think Dublin increase the profile of it, so do Meath, Derry, Kildare and Cork, we bring a crowd, no point saying otherwise, but you have other big enough profile counties in it, when you look at this thread there is more post about Div 2 then Div1.

But if you look at Div 1, Roscommon, Tyrone, Donegal, Monghan didnt get to a quarter final last year, Cork, Derry, Clare, and Dublin all did. Kildare and Limerick were provincial finalists.

Its very debatable whether the best teams are in Div 1 really or the prevailing logic that you "have to be in Div 1" to play against the best. Maybe it was some years back but i dont think its true at the moment.

I mean we will learn more playing in PUC tomorrow and up in Celtic Park in a couple weeks then we would playing Mayo, or Monaghan.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 18/02/2023 11:58:41    2458807

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Division 1 is an absolute bore fest. Its a total dirge playing the same teams year in year out. Really enjoying Div 2 of the Cork in the morning.

Not sure the best teams are up there really, i dont think there is anyone in div 1 we couldn't beat, Derry either for that matter and thats two Championship Semi finalists for a start, Two provincials winners and three provincial finalists there to.

The most pragmatic teams are in Div 1 i think.

Maybe the best teams were up there 4-5 years ago."
Embarrassing post.

So now Dublin are a division 2 side the best league is division 2 and the best teams are actually in division 2.

Mmm seems pretty strange.

Also you are saying Galway couldn't beat Derry, even though they did so twice last year. And the All Ireland champions Kerry (who beat Galway by 4 points in the final) also couldn't beat Derry?

What about Donegal who only got beat by Derry by a point after extra time in the Ulster Final last year. They definitely couldn't beat Derry either?

I'm starting to think that maybe this wasn't a very serious post and I shouldn't have wasted my time replying.

Wally (Tyrone) - Posts: 913 - 18/02/2023 12:06:57    2458809

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Division 1 is an absolute bore fest. Its a total dirge playing the same teams year in year out. Really enjoying Div 2 of the Cork in the morning.

Not sure the best teams are up there really, i dont think there is anyone in div 1 we couldn't beat, Derry either for that matter and thats two Championship Semi finalists for a start, Two provincials winners and three provincial finalists there to.

The most pragmatic teams are in Div 1 i think.

Maybe the best teams were up there 4-5 years ago."
Well if you think that division 1 is an "absolute bore fest", I hope you enjoy this year's Leinster champansionship which has no division 1 team in it?

letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 527 - 18/02/2023 12:19:04    2458815

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Replying To Saynothing:  "So the top league is the league is whatever league the Dubs are in? Derry played Galway at least twice last year and couldn't live with them in either match."
Teams are outside dubs sre good too come on dubs top team but division 1 generally has best teams aside derry maybe as well.Kerry all ireland champions at minute so

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 220 - 18/02/2023 12:48:39    2458819

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Replying To Saynothing:  "So the top league is the league is whatever league the Dubs are in? Derry played Galway at least twice last year and couldn't live with them in either match."
Psst yes but doesnt mean always case dubs be good for champ doesnt mean league is best just cause they sre in it come on ridiculous logic

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 220 - 18/02/2023 12:49:19    2458820

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Division 1 is an absolute bore fest. Its a total dirge playing the same teams year in year out. Really enjoying Div 2 of the Cork in the morning.

Not sure the best teams are up there really, i dont think there is anyone in div 1 we couldn't beat, Derry either for that matter and thats two Championship Semi finalists for a start, Two provincials winners and three provincial finalists there to.

The most pragmatic teams are in Div 1 i think.

Maybe the best teams were up there 4-5 years ago."
What do u do u thi k d 2 dubs sre better d1 teams u get up there if u esrn it ffa what do u want change for is it because dubs couldnt stay up now you have to down d 1

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 220 - 18/02/2023 12:50:14    2458821

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Division 1 is an absolute bore fest. Its a total dirge playing the same teams year in year out. Really enjoying Div 2 of the Cork in the morning.

Not sure the best teams are up there really, i dont think there is anyone in div 1 we couldn't beat, Derry either for that matter and thats two Championship Semi finalists for a start, Two provincials winners and three provincial finalists there to.

The most pragmatic teams are in Div 1 i think.

Maybe the best teams were up there 4-5 years ago."
Dubs had great 6 in arow but doesnt mean you walk every year you beat anyone day but its not certaibity now we see coke championship ye will be at business end but still thimkkerry team to beat as champions but d 1 borefest sounds like because your own county isnt in it is why you are saying borefest

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 220 - 18/02/2023 12:52:09    2458823

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Replying To Saynothing:  "So the top league is the league is whatever league the Dubs are in? Derry played Galway at least twice last year and couldn't live with them in either match."
He cant accept dubs bot as good as once were ues improve in championship but calling league borefest cause dubs not in it is ridiculpus honestly does he thi k kildsre would beat kerry or louth for example ridiculous

Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 220 - 18/02/2023 12:53:34    2458824

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Division 1 is an absolute bore fest. Its a total dirge playing the same teams year in year out. Really enjoying Div 2 of the Cork in the morning.

Not sure the best teams are up there really, i dont think there is anyone in div 1 we couldn't beat, Derry either for that matter and thats two Championship Semi finalists for a start, Two provincials winners and three provincial finalists there to.

The most pragmatic teams are in Div 1 i think.

Maybe the best teams were up there 4-5 years ago."
The league tables don't lie. Derry unable to gain promotion last year and your Dublin team got relegated.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3358 - 18/02/2023 13:06:42    2458828

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Well i think Dublin increase the profile of it, so do Meath, Derry, Kildare and Cork, we bring a crowd, no point saying otherwise, but you have other big enough profile counties in it, when you look at this thread there is more post about Div 2 then Div1.

But if you look at Div 1, Roscommon, Tyrone, Donegal, Monghan didnt get to a quarter final last year, Cork, Derry, Clare, and Dublin all did. Kildare and Limerick were provincial finalists.

Its very debatable whether the best teams are in Div 1 really or the prevailing logic that you "have to be in Div 1" to play against the best. Maybe it was some years back but i dont think its true at the moment.

I mean we will learn more playing in PUC tomorrow and up in Celtic Park in a couple weeks then we would playing Mayo, or Monaghan."
Stupid debate. The league has been a true barometer of form for several years now. Teams want to stay up. There are a few decent teams in div 2 and if course it has in inflated status with dublin being the 2nd favourite 2nd and very genuine contenders for AI. But the bottom line is that overall the better teams are in div 1 and the AI champs will be a Div1 side ( or if not will be a Div 1 side by end of current league)

anotheralias (Galway) - Posts: 843 - 18/02/2023 13:31:37    2458831

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Most of the championship games will be uncompetitive up until the All Ireland series. Winning provincials get you a cup but no step above any other team already qualified for the All Ireland series. Hopefully it turns out to be a great championship with plenty of competitive games. But the lack of knockout games until All Ireland pool games are over doesn't look to promote as many competitive games or classics like Galway v Armagh last year."
I think the provincial champions and Tailteann Cup winner should be rewarded with an extra home game. 3 more home games can be by look of the draw for the remaining 11 teams.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7891 - 18/02/2023 13:32:30    2458832

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It is raining today so I wonder what the RTE live broadcast will look like in Owenbeg. On TG4 last year against Cork you could barely see the action at times because of rain drops on the camera.

PattyONeill (Derry) - Posts: 226 - 18/02/2023 13:33:25    2458833

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Replying To PattyONeill:  "It is raining today so I wonder what the RTE live broadcast will look like in Owenbeg. On TG4 last year against Cork you could barely see the action at times because of rain drops on the camera."
What would you suggest to remedy the situation? Unless they can find an area not exposed to the wind and rain it's hard to keep the lens dry and give a good view of the action. Can only wipe the lens at intervals in play.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7376 - 18/02/2023 15:23:48    2458856

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Replying To Wally:  "Embarrassing post.

So now Dublin are a division 2 side the best league is division 2 and the best teams are actually in division 2.

Mmm seems pretty strange.

Also you are saying Galway couldn't beat Derry, even though they did so twice last year. And the All Ireland champions Kerry (who beat Galway by 4 points in the final) also couldn't beat Derry?

What about Donegal who only got beat by Derry by a point after extra time in the Ulster Final last year. They definitely couldn't beat Derry either?

I'm starting to think that maybe this wasn't a very serious post and I shouldn't have wasted my time replying."
There isn't anything I've said that not true though, you're just venting there.

You are actually proving my point - you're arguing about Div 1 teams in with a chance of beating Div 2 teams.

That's hardly a key indicator that the best teams are in Div 1 now is it.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 18/02/2023 15:41:51    2458861

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