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Replying To Saynothing:  "Not a bad Saturday evenings football. Pity it's all over come July."
GAA goes on past July,go to a few club games, really enjoyed the club matches.

cityman73 (Limerick) - Posts: 779 - 29/01/2023 16:15:06    2454974

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Great win for Donegal. Brilliant viewing for the (sort of :-) neutral!

Did O'Connor tap the ref on the shoulder during his post match hissy fit? I hope all the sticklers for abiding by the rules etc will be highlighting this now..."
O'Connor doesn't like losing to Donegal. Have a look at his post match interview after they beat Kerry in 2012.

greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 427 - 29/01/2023 16:28:35    2454983

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "Great wins for Donegal and Roscommon. Few Tyrone folks saying all isn't right in the camp. Antrim as usual 2 steps forward one year the next 10 steps back. We don't need managers from outside, we have to start improving from within."
I've been saying that for over a year. It's obvious. New management needed, urgently.

points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet (Tyrone) - Posts: 242 - 29/01/2023 16:48:10    2454991

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Replying To CeachtPeile:  "No Division 3 team can qualify for the All Ireland via the league this year. Of the 16 Sam Maguire places available, two are gone: one to Westmeath and one to Leitrim/Sligo/London/New York. The remaining 14 places go to the eight Division 1 teams and the top six Division 2 teams, if there are no more Division 3/4 provincial finalists."
There is a route for Division 3 teams... The top 2 teams in Division 3 sit above the bottom 2 teams in Division 2 in the Sam Maguire pecking order. So if Westmeath reach the Leinster Final, the team that tops Division 3 (or comes second if Westmeath top it) will then qualify for Sam Maguire. The bottom 2 teams in Division 2 are in the Tailteann Cup unless they reach their provincial final.

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 475 - 29/01/2023 17:28:03    2455007

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Replying To LongfordgaaAbú:  "There is a route for Division 3 teams... The top 2 teams in Division 3 sit above the bottom 2 teams in Division 2 in the Sam Maguire pecking order. So if Westmeath reach the Leinster Final, the team that tops Division 3 (or comes second if Westmeath top it) will then qualify for Sam Maguire. The bottom 2 teams in Division 2 are in the Tailteann Cup unless they reach their provincial final."
Actually that doesn't work, sorry!

LongfordgaaAbú (Longford) - Posts: 475 - 29/01/2023 17:39:26    2455011

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Replying To cityman73:  "GAA goes on past July,go to a few club games, really enjoyed the club matches."
Who mentioned GAA as a whole? I'm on about county. Club football is always there any night of the week. Really enjoy them.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2018 - 29/01/2023 17:40:04    2455012

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Replying To points50swiththeargyllsonthewrongfeet:  "I've been saying that for over a year. It's obvious. New management needed, urgently."
A lucky first year and everyone still thinks they are Gods gift. If they keep playing Mc Kernan and Matty Donnelly they are doomed. Not going to be easy to stay up now.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2018 - 29/01/2023 17:42:50    2455015

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Interesting that teams are obviously taking the football league a lot more seriously than we can expect with the top division in hurling. The threat of losing senior status in championship has obviously exercised minds, even in Division One where avoiding relegation is far more important than previously.

Division Two is going to be very interesting. Be some battle to fight for survival and I wouldn't be surprised to see an unexpected former elite county getting dragged into a dog fight.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2591 - 29/01/2023 20:01:47    2455089

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Clare's win over Louth was crucially important. 6th in Division 2 is the All-Ireland safety line. If one or two lower league counties, outside of Leitrim or Sligo, make the provincial finals, 5th or 4th in Division 2 will be the All-Ireland safety line. Most counties will want to finish in the Division 2 top 4 to be sure.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7891 - 29/01/2023 20:53:15    2455122

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What is clear is that the competition should no longer be called the All Ireland. You have the secondary competition (which is better btw) deciding what counties can compete in the latter stages of the premier competition. This is a cod.

friedporridge (Leitrim) - Posts: 23 - 30/01/2023 09:50:35    2455173

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Replying To friedporridge:  "What is clear is that the competition should no longer be called the All Ireland. You have the secondary competition (which is better btw) deciding what counties can compete in the latter stages of the premier competition. This is a cod."
No reason why Leitrim cant get to a provincal final, people need to stop moaning and get on with it.
A group of Leitrim,Sligo,London,New York is not the hardest route in getting to Group All Ireland stages , three Div 4 teams and a Non League team ??

OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 678 - 30/01/2023 10:48:05    2455199

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Replying To friedporridge:  "What is clear is that the competition should no longer be called the All Ireland. You have the secondary competition (which is better btw) deciding what counties can compete in the latter stages of the premier competition. This is a cod."
Depends which way you want to look at it. Provincial finalists still qualify for the All-Ireland series. The rest, bar the Tailteann Cup winner, qualify based on league placing.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7891 - 30/01/2023 13:03:21    2455255

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Watched a few games this weekend and my hope is that the referees will speed up the restarts. Some goalies taking a lifetime to kick out the ball. Some free takers taking almost a minute to take a free. Add it all up there's a lot of dead time in the game. I know there's a lot more the refs need to improve like consistency in their calls but speeding up the restarts should be easy.

cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 454 - 30/01/2023 15:34:26    2455310

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Replying To friedporridge:  "What is clear is that the competition should no longer be called the All Ireland. You have the secondary competition (which is better btw) deciding what counties can compete in the latter stages of the premier competition. This is a cod."
That will be news to the LGFA. All-Ireland just means a competition is open to all counties across the island. Those counties can still be split into grades hence Senior, Intermediate, and Junior.

Rolo2010 (Donegal) - Posts: 739 - 30/01/2023 16:23:00    2455326

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Replying To OpenStand:  "No reason why Leitrim cant get to a provincal final, people need to stop moaning and get on with it.
A group of Leitrim,Sligo,London,New York is not the hardest route in getting to Group All Ireland stages , three Div 4 teams and a Non League team ??"
That isn't the issue, of course we could make a provincial final this year. The fact of the matter is teams that somehow find themselves in div 3 for example may not have that option.

friedporridge (Leitrim) - Posts: 23 - 30/01/2023 16:29:18    2455331

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Replying To cluichethar:  "Watched a few games this weekend and my hope is that the referees will speed up the restarts. Some goalies taking a lifetime to kick out the ball. Some free takers taking almost a minute to take a free. Add it all up there's a lot of dead time in the game. I know there's a lot more the refs need to improve like consistency in their calls but speeding up the restarts should be easy."
You wouldnt want to be watching Rugby with scrum resets etc etc

OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 678 - 30/01/2023 16:50:30    2455339

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Replying To OpenStand:  "You wouldnt want to be watching Rugby with scrum resets etc etc"
I do and it's brutal, again an easy fix force the scrumhalf to put the ball in straight as per the rules.
Some free takers act like they're kicking penalties and conversions. The referee can put an end to it quickly why he doesn't I don't know.

cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 454 - 30/01/2023 18:42:40    2455383

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Replying To friedporridge:  "What is clear is that the competition should no longer be called the All Ireland. You have the secondary competition (which is better btw) deciding what counties can compete in the latter stages of the premier competition. This is a cod."
I like the new system although the 2nd and 3rd place preliminary round after the round Robin could be done without. Bottom line is if you are good enough to be in the Sam Maguire you will qualify through your Provincial championship or the league. You have two chances at it really if you are a Division 2 side and Division 3 teams similarly can get there via their Provincial. Granted say for instance Leitrim qualified for Sam I don't see how playing in that would be worthwhile so it isn't without flaws.

Jazzyjeff (Derry) - Posts: 166 - 30/01/2023 18:52:35    2455391

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "Interesting that teams are obviously taking the football league a lot more seriously than we can expect with the top division in hurling. The threat of losing senior status in championship has obviously exercised minds, even in Division One where avoiding relegation is far more important than previously.

Division Two is going to be very interesting. Be some battle to fight for survival and I wouldn't be surprised to see an unexpected former elite county getting dragged into a dog fight."
Absolutely agree there are some serious Teams in Div2 this year

fogonthetyne (Westmeath) - Posts: 6 - 30/01/2023 21:43:01    2455421

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The win in cork was very important for Meath this year. Need to back that up against the team who ended our championship last year . If we get 2 wins from 2 games I'd be very happy

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 31/01/2023 14:21:22    2455556

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