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The Judas Transfer

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Seemed like a strange transfer. I would have thought with Schlingerman going back to soccer and David Clarke not getting any younger there might have been an opening in Mayo. Judas is a harsh label. Interesting topic though...

There's been a few in Connacht in the past actually.

Tomas Tierney went from Galway to Mayo.
Alan Costello went from Mayo to Sligo.

Imagine Rory Gallagher going from Fermanagh to Cavan might have been contentious at the time.

Not at senior level but Shane O'Brien went from the Tipp minors to the Clare U21s and at the time that made national headlines!

Denis Byrne going from Kilkenny to Tipp is surely the biggest though. Both All Ireland contenders at the time. He literally just hopped the fence. I don't know the story behind how it came about or anything. Couldn't have been an easy thing to do.

roundball (Tipperary) - Posts: 2514 - 04/01/2020 12:59:32    2257267

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Judas is such a terrible label on anyone. I don't know the backstory to this....and I can't underatand why he would want to play for another county but maybe he was he told he wouldn't be in horans plan and really wants to play inter county....

Anyway best of luck to the lad just not when he is playing his native Mayo."
Agree with the Judas thing it's a bit harsh a label.
It is possible for someone to have connections/love for 2 counties

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 04/01/2020 13:05:52    2257268

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Declan Darcy maybe. Playing with his father's home county of Leitrim for years and then moving back to his native county of Dublin which caused a shock here in Leitrim. Can't blame him I suppose but he won more with Leitrim than with Dublin which is unusual.

the_ayatollah (Leitrim) - Posts: 6 - 04/01/2020 14:01:49    2257281

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Seánie Johnston's transfer from Cavan to Kildare. They weren't a rival of ours, but the manner of the transfer and shenanigans around it really angered a lot of Cavan people, and there's still bitterness over it. The fact he even togged out and played 30 seconds of a hurling match for his new Kildare club to rubber-stamp the transfer stuck in manys a craw. And he then kicked a few points against us when they beat us in the championship that summer to really rub it in. But like another Biblical figure who was on the road to Damascus, he saw the light and and returned to the Cavan fold for a few more years!

TheBlackDeath (Cavan) - Posts: 73 - 05/01/2020 18:16:09    2257576

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Replying To TheBlackDeath:  "Seánie Johnston's transfer from Cavan to Kildare. They weren't a rival of ours, but the manner of the transfer and shenanigans around it really angered a lot of Cavan people, and there's still bitterness over it. The fact he even togged out and played 30 seconds of a hurling match for his new Kildare club to rubber-stamp the transfer stuck in manys a craw. And he then kicked a few points against us when they beat us in the championship that summer to really rub it in. But like another Biblical figure who was on the road to Damascus, he saw the light and and returned to the Cavan fold for a few more years!"
It angered a lot of people here too, the strokes that was pulled to get him to play was shameful stuff. Then he done absolutely nothing. They would have been far better off putting that effort into cultivating home grown talent.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1911 - 05/01/2020 18:31:52    2257579

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Tevez to City

DuhallowRed (Cork) - Posts: 268 - 05/01/2020 18:38:10    2257581

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Replying To hamsterdean:  "Colm O'Rourke was Leitrim man as was Sean Boylan"
Good stuff.

I'm fairly sure the thread is about transfers though, Not about what counties lads are born in.

Meathmaverick (Meath) - Posts: 106 - 06/01/2020 08:42:16    2257665

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Replying To Bon:  "
Replying To TheBlackDeath:  "Seánie Johnston's transfer from Cavan to Kildare. They weren't a rival of ours, but the manner of the transfer and shenanigans around it really angered a lot of Cavan people, and there's still bitterness over it. The fact he even togged out and played 30 seconds of a hurling match for his new Kildare club to rubber-stamp the transfer stuck in manys a craw. And he then kicked a few points against us when they beat us in the championship that summer to really rub it in. But like another Biblical figure who was on the road to Damascus, he saw the light and and returned to the Cavan fold for a few more years!"
It angered a lot of people here too, the strokes that was pulled to get him to play was shameful stuff. Then he done absolutely nothing. They would have been far better off putting that effort into cultivating home grown talent."
He was some hurler though. Shortest hurling playing career ever?

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 06/01/2020 08:45:02    2257666

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Replying To the_ayatollah:  "Declan Darcy maybe. Playing with his father's home county of Leitrim for years and then moving back to his native county of Dublin which caused a shock here in Leitrim. Can't blame him I suppose but he won more with Leitrim than with Dublin which is unusual."
Played his whole club career with Aughawillan and won won several county titles with them and won a Connaght under 21 and Connaght senior championship with Leitrim too. Never disliked him for going to Dublin when it was his County of birth and he gave everything to Leitim and Aughawillan for practically his whole career which was a massive commitment

leitrim4sam (Leitrim) - Posts: 645 - 06/01/2020 10:48:40    2257688

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Replying To TheBlackDeath:  "Seánie Johnston's transfer from Cavan to Kildare. They weren't a rival of ours, but the manner of the transfer and shenanigans around it really angered a lot of Cavan people, and there's still bitterness over it. The fact he even togged out and played 30 seconds of a hurling match for his new Kildare club to rubber-stamp the transfer stuck in manys a craw. And he then kicked a few points against us when they beat us in the championship that summer to really rub it in. But like another Biblical figure who was on the road to Damascus, he saw the light and and returned to the Cavan fold for a few more years!"
Was he ever working down there at all or was he still working in Cavan?

fergie (Carlow) - Posts: 1115 - 06/01/2020 10:54:12    2257692

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Replying To Meathmaverick:  "Good stuff.

I'm fairly sure the thread is about transfers though, Not about what counties lads are born in."
I think Sean Boylans mother was from Leitrim, as opposed to him being born there. Colm O'Rourke was definitely poached from us though :)

five_bogs (Leitrim) - Posts: 19 - 06/01/2020 11:03:13    2257695

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Replying To five_bogs:  "I think Sean Boylans mother was from Leitrim, as opposed to him being born there. Colm O'Rourke was definitely poached from us though :)"
Boylans mother is from cloone in Leitrim. COlm O'Rourke is from Aughavs and moved to Meath with his family when he was eight, hardly poached from us

leitrim4sam (Leitrim) - Posts: 645 - 06/01/2020 14:44:51    2257761

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Replying To Joxer:  "
Replying To Bon:  "[quote=TheBlackDeath:  "Seánie Johnston's transfer from Cavan to Kildare. They weren't a rival of ours, but the manner of the transfer and shenanigans around it really angered a lot of Cavan people, and there's still bitterness over it. The fact he even togged out and played 30 seconds of a hurling match for his new Kildare club to rubber-stamp the transfer stuck in manys a craw. And he then kicked a few points against us when they beat us in the championship that summer to really rub it in. But like another Biblical figure who was on the road to Damascus, he saw the light and and returned to the Cavan fold for a few more years!"
It angered a lot of people here too, the strokes that was pulled to get him to play was shameful stuff. Then he done absolutely nothing. They would have been far better off putting that effort into cultivating home grown talent."
He was some hurler though. Shortest hurling playing career ever?"]Shame on Coill Dubh hurling club for facilitating this farce.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1911 - 06/01/2020 15:33:36    2257781

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Replying To leitrim4sam:  "Boylans mother is from cloone in Leitrim. COlm O'Rourke is from Aughavs and moved to Meath with his family when he was eight, hardly poached from us"
I'm well aware of that. I was making a small joke, hence the smiley face. Have a great day!

five_bogs (Leitrim) - Posts: 19 - 06/01/2020 15:48:15    2257785

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If we're to start recruiting on that basis then we'd happily roll the green and red carpet all the way down from Donegal to get Michael Murphy, even at 30+. Not a chance of it happening though... your loyalty has more to do with where you were brought up, your friends, neighbours etc, and rightly so.

I think most people are more peed off by the AFL defections than lads or girls playing for a parent's county. The good ones never come back or come back crocked.

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 06/01/2020 18:37:13    2257830

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Replying To cluichethar:  "Well Roscommon did steal that section of Mayo. Also Ballaghadereen chose to stay Mayo. So your point is kinda mute."
moot

Gator (Monaghan) - Posts: 238 - 07/01/2020 18:04:04    2258025

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Ger Power from Limerick to Kerry

hamsterdean (Limerick) - Posts: 223 - 07/01/2020 22:04:42    2258079

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Replying To Gator:  "moot"
No I think mute is the right word, people should refrain from speech/talking when on about Ballagadereen playing with Mayo.

cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 454 - 08/01/2020 13:29:03    2258182

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Shay Fahy Kildare to Cork

Mick O'Dywer
Multiple other counties players into Kildare
Brian Flanagan from Tipp
Karl O'Dwyer from Kerry
Brian Murphy from Cork
Cathal Sheridan from Meath

In Laois
Billy Sheehan

Waterford had a few Tipp hurlers in the early '00's too
Brian Flannery (I actually bought his house when I moved to Waterford) and Andy Moloney both played big roles in their 2002 Munster final win


Didn't Rory Gallagher play for 3 counties in his time too??? Definitely Fermanagh and Cavan and did he line out for Dublin in pre season!!!!

Also wasn't Tony Reddin I think of Tipp fame a galway man???

brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 08/01/2020 13:57:07    2258189

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Mick Galwey Kerry to Munster Rugby

brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 08/01/2020 14:15:11    2258194

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